Talk:Places:Bookmarks:Rethinking

tags+notes

Personally, I just want Tags and Notes available. I'll use just about any UI I have to, without complaint. The screen shots on the wiki page look fine to me. Did I mention I REELY, REELY want to use Notes and Tags with Places?

Some ideas...

OK, I thought a little about that really nice approach... here are my topics:

notes

When a piece of a website is copied to "notes", I would love to have this piece of the note clickable and bringing me to more or less the same place on the webpage again. --Schoschi 17:40, 25 June 2006 (PDT)

The bookmark "inbox"

This section was not 100% clear to me %-/ What I got as unsolved problem was that users of the current bookmark system expect new bookmarks (star button) at the end of the list whereas you'd like to put them on top of the list for more dominant presentation to newbies. What about filing new bookmarks as nowadys at the end but giving all "star"-bookmarks an appropriate tag, eg new_quick_bookmark_by_star_button, thus the "new bookmarks" section works just as a filter over tags (kind of "saved query" like in TB) => both groups are satisfied. --Schoschi 17:40, 25 June 2006 (PDT)

hint and wizzard for upgrading users

We have no need for folders at all any more, as tags can do everything folders can do (if sub-tags are implemented!) but offer multiple hierarchies for one bookmark (eg golem.de in "news" and "software" and "hardware" and "price comparision"). We can get rid of all the dupes the folders were forcing us to produce! :-)

For people like me, having over 2MByte of bookmarks, it would be GREAT to have a kind of upgrade wizzard which does the following

1. take all folder names and copy (undo possible) or move (some users may fear semantic losses) them into the new invented tag field (including subfolders, using a really secure seperator (/ and : may be used in current folder names) ). Use a prefix like "folder:" so I know "hey, this was a folder until FB3" so I will find my way quickly (yes, this breaks find as you type, it's just a first rough idea *g*)
2. find all bookmarks with similar URL and consolidate all of them into a single bookmark
   1. each folder path as one tag
   2. use most recent "last call" and it's favicon
   3. in case one field (keyword / description...) is filled only in one of the old bookmarks, use this and go to next dupe. Elsewise ask user what to do (use one of them only, concatenate or (default) concatenate and manually edit AND a checkbox "same action for all 243 similar cases")
3. delete obsolete folder structure

--Schoschi 17:40, 25 June 2006 (PDT)

check bookmarks

As the main intention of the new places system is to promote the use of bookmarks, much more users will have to fight against permanent redirects which will become broken links. Moreover, not all sites are offering RSS and thus it would be great to get the fine old mozilla 1.7 (?) feature back: check bookmarks for changes. But in an user friedly and useful way:

• Setting those checks (update/broken) per bookmark or per folder/tag
• collect some places and perform any check only once (so not making a permanent setting)
• optional: Warn me if any bookmark (independet of setting) gets a new permanent redirect (usually some time later the old URL does not work at all any more)
• Optional: save the current content of a URL and mark it as changed only if more than xxx byte changed (important for generated content where date of creation will never work for update checks) and then highlight the differences

I did not find out the reason why this pretty cool feature was dropped when FF was created; a search of some 15mins revealed no good sources. In case the reason was that newbies were overwhelmed: We are now creating a complete new UI so this feature is not somehow squashed into an old UI, but it can be done in a really nice and neat way so everyone understands. And now, we want newbies to heavyly use bookmarks. --Schoschi 17:40, 25 June 2006 (PDT)

incremental search

I'd love to be able to search incremental. So first, show only places containing ".se" in their URL, then further reduce to those containing "uni" in title/description and then further filter to only those containing the tag "todo". Then save this as saved search. Maybe too sophisticated (=> extension) but maybe just another reason to use FF "places" instead of web2.0 pages (which are not able to do this to full extend, so searches including history) --Schoschi 17:40, 25 June 2006 (PDT)