SeaMonkey/StatusMeetings/2011-06-28

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SeaMonkey Meeting Details

• Time: 28 June, 2011, 12:00 UTC
• Location: #seamonkey IRC channel

Agenda

• Who's taking minutes? -> Ratty
• Nominees for Friends of the Fish Tank?
  • Please note A person or entity can't be nominated twice in a row.

Action Items

(who needs to do what that hasn't been recorded in a bug) We should assign people to the open items.

NEW

OPEN

• IanN to triage the 2.1-wanted and 2.1-nominated bugs, and move any that are appropriate to 2.2.

CLOSED

• IanN to look at what needs to go into comm-aurora and comm-beta from comm-central. Due to string changes we have to be selective in which changesets to go into the merge [Done].

K.I.V.

• Get permission from Google to use their geolocation JSON service [KaiRo]. We can still only wait on the Google front right now. Didn't hear anything about open Geolocation service yet. No easy solution in sight.

Release Train

• SeaMonkey will directly go the the permanent repositories, i.e. -aurora, -beta in addition to -central. Miramar is a Thunderbird-only release branch (as is comm-2.0 for SeaMonkey).
• For comm-aurora, we can let a few more things slip in, but we also should regard strings there as much frozen as possible. In the future, string freeze is the uplift from central to aurora, which matches Firefox.
• If we have any actual fixes that don't need L10n changes (not enhancements) on central but not beta, they should go there if possible.
• SeaMonkey comm-aurora and comm-beta are buildable and tinderbox has run tests against them.
• Callek is working on getting comm-aurora and comm-beta on MXR (bug 653424).
• The correct version numbers are now on the release train.
• We'll probably need an update on the AUS server to support aurora nightlies correctly (KaiRo will probably do this sometime this week). Status/update?
• We'll need to ensure that we set the correct channel for aurora nightlies. Leaving this to Callek. Status/update?
• We released 2.2b1.
  • As FF shipped 5.0, we should be concentrating on getting a 2.2 out the door, especially as it has some fixes for issues in 2.1.
• 2.3 should go into beta in 2-3 weeks (not sure when exactly the uplift is, might actually be 3) and then we'll have 6 weeks to release.

SeaMonkey 2.1

open blockers (0) blocker requests (0) targeted (0) fixed (64)

• AUS updates from (2.0 -> 2.1) are TBA (Callek?) Status/update?
• Callek fixed bug 663636 (Missing addons, directory distribution/extensions is not there) for 2.2.

Feedback and User reaction

• Generally overwhelmingly favourable. There appears to be a sizable audience impatient for a new version. However there there were some pain points experienced by some users.
• We need to make links to the version of Lightning version compatible with SeaMonkey 2.1 much more prominent and discoverable [1].
  • Need to link to the Lightning FAQ re "Calendar works, had to first export old calendar, then re-import into new calendar, but so far, so good!!!" [2]
• The new Data Manager does not allow a continuous sortable display of all cookies or all passwords across all domains like the old Cookie and Password managers.
  • In the short term we should provide links from the Data Manager panes to the old managers (fortunately we haven't removed them from the tree. In the long term a redesign is in order [Ratty].
• The properties pane in the new Bookmarks Manager is un-expanded by default and needs to be more discoverable. Suggestion: Add a menu item Edit->Open Properties pane.
• Documentation needed on how to set up the Sync service. As a temporary measure we can point people to the Firefox support article [3].
• Bookmarks "Open folder in tabs" menu item: When we moved to Places we stopped overwriting existing tabs. But we failed to notice that people had a use case for this and depended on this for their workflow [4]. We should make the existing preference (browser.tabs.loadGroup) work again. See bug 664101 Replacing existing tabs when opening bookmark group/folder doesn't work (regression).

mcsmurf to file bugs on the Data Manager and the Bookmarks "Open folder in tabs" issues. InvisibleSmiley to update the FAQ on the other issues.

Follow-ups

• Besides Lightning, we should also take a look at other add-ons that are important for our users when they switch to 2.1.
  • InvisibleSmiley maintained a list, created a wiki page and posted a newsgroup message regarding this. Done.
  • There is a version of Autofill Forms that is compatible with SeaMonkey 2.1 on code.google.com. Ratty has pinged one of the authors and asked him to upload a SeaMonkey compatible version to AMO, but hasn't gotten a reply yet. Status/update?
  • Useful query: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/seamonkey/extensions/?sort=popular
• InvisibleSmiley created a 2.1 FAQ Wiki page. Several people helped updating it.
• KaiRo created a SeaMonkey Features page and sub-pages for all those that are in development.

SeaMonkey 2.2

open tracking (5) tracking requests (0) targeted (1) fixed (33)

We should release as soon as we can after FF5.

Further 2.x scheduling:

• Current release notes are for 2.2b1. Once we have 2.2b2 or later, relnotes need to be updated, esp. for bug 666518 (Stop making extensions optional in SeaMonkey's installer).
• Please help updating the New 2.2 Features page as we go.

Feature List, Planning

Bug statistics for last two (full) weeks: 80 new, 32 fixed, 28 triaged.

• Good further triage targets could come out of looking at the component bug counts, pick yours!

Open reviews/flags: 37 review 14 super-review 0 ui-review 8 feedback

Major wanted/needed features:

Active

• bug 606683 Allow customization of toolbar in Composer and MailNews Composition [IanN].
  • A lot of untangling needs to go on between the 3 editors that we have. We can expect a bit of code cleanup for 2.1 but full customization has to go to 2.next as it needs work on TB too which is taking a while to get reviews on, plus feedback from kaze.
• We need to finish bug 654864 soon, but none of Neil's comments on bug 422845 triggered any response, so InvisibleSmiley feels reluctant to continue. Still he uploaded yet another version.
  • IanN filed and fixed a Thunderbird bug (bug 663631 Simplify getParentIndex in folderPane.js and jsTreeView.js) to help move things forward.

We also should take a look at the other items on 2.1-wanted Also the nominations need triaging. (Ratty: New flags for SeaMonkey 2.2 need to be created and the current bugs migrated.)

Needing help, Unowned, Stalled

• Kill-RDF:
  • bug 657607 Port jminta's kill-rdf to SeaMonkey where applicable Part 2 [meta].
  • bug 657604 Remove the RDF global object.
• bug 436794 Enable Mac OS X system address book per default and add UI.
  • SM UI needed, unowned, helpwanted.
• bug 449728 Drag tabs between windows.
• bug 477845 Build a standalone (Gecko 2.0) Composer. [kaze]
  • kaze is currently busy with his new job so doesn't have any to spend on this.
  • bug 477840 Backport KompoZer to Composer (Depends on bug 477845).
  • kaze has done a ton of work there. We still need to work out some organizational issues. At the moment there is no active interest from MoMo for bringing standalone composer into comm-central. That's something we (KaiRo and kaze) will have to negotiate with the Thunderbird team (Standard8).
• bug 507841 Port Bug 422814 - Make account configuration quick, easy, and more secure (autoconfig, Quick Account Setup).
• bug 533908 SeaMonkey Mail: tabs not restored [misak].
• bug 523274 Complete new default theme icon set.
  • A list of TODO icons is up in the bug.
• bug 526210 Update the icon set for the SeaMonkey Modern Theme.
  • bug 548778 New communicator icons (based on Strata theme) for SeaMonkey. Some proposed icons got posted, we should take a look how to get that contribution into the product.
  • The rest is unowned so far.
• bug 87098 [SeaMonkey] Delete key should delete location bar history list entry.
  • Note: Our location bar history doesn't and can't use autocomplete at all.

Roundtable - Personal Status Updates

Status Updates from developers - what are you working on, what's the progress, any other comments? (feel free to add yourself to the list if your name is missing and you have interesting status).