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Firefox 3 Meeting

Meeting Details

  • Tuesdays - Firefox 3 - 11:00am Pacific, 2:00pm Eastern, 18:00 UTC
  • Mozilla Building S - <script> conference room
  • 650-903-0800 or 650-215-1282 x91 Conf# 217 (US/INTL)
  • 1-800-707-2533 (pin 369) Conf# 217 (US)
  • #granparadiso for backchannel

PRD Status Update

Open Action Items

  • thunder to confirm with Baz and Kev about where localizable string with partner name will be used in UI (needed for INST-005a)
    • carry-over
    • rob_strong: if someone could at least look at the installer and give us a wish-list, we could reply with a set of sizings and estimates and work from there
    • action item: basil to do this for rob_strong
  • beltzner to liase with to get malware site list hooked up
    • moved to updates on privacy/security as this will be a multi-week activity
  • beltzner to find blocking bug for removing profile information on uninstall


  • code freeze is scheduled for Wednesday, October 17th
  • we pulled back to threat level orange on Thursday due to the number of remaining blockers
  • M9 Blockers: 81 (7 are unassigned)
    • some of those bugs can be moved out to post M9, mconnor to re-triage
    • some of those would not block an alpha, so we either need to move code freeze or declare M9 to be another alpha and shift some blockers to M10
    • at our current fix rate, we'd need 2 more weeks to contain all the bugs
    • impact of this slip would mean only 1 beta in 2007, as our dates would shift beta 2 to be too far into December
    • worried that slipping/extending will just see us "grow to fit" the deadline
    • action item: mconnor and damons to review M9 blocker lists and report back at Gecko meeting tomorrow with estimates of when we could ship a decent Beta 1.
    • (beta 1 criteria: safe for daily browsing, no glaring bugs/omissions in shipped features)

Work in progress

  • Web-based protocol handling (PH team)
    • 3 bugs targeted for M9 (dmose)
  • Microformats (mkaply)
  • Places (Places team)
    • 36 M9 blockers (+1 from last week)
    • Places UI bugs and plan
    • JSON backup for bookmarks/tags/annotations in progress (bug 384370, blocked on bug 398898)
    • Places folders in the menu and toolbar are in progress (bug 387996, screenshot, screenshot)
    • some discussion on tuning the size of our global history for perf, see bug 332748
      • maybe cap to a # of sites/visits, not based on time?
      • bottleneck is memory (6% of physical memory on the machine) not absolute size, maybe we can tune the defaults dynamically
  • Session Restore
    • discuss goals/targets for bug 398807
    • turns out that we store 50 history items per tab in session restore, perhaps we need less? looking for feedback on that bug
  • Download Manager
  • Password Manager (dolske)
  • Addons Manager (Rob Strong, Mossop, mwu)
  • Security, Privacy, Identity
    • Larry UI revealed a performance problem with onSecurityChange() method which was massively inefficient
    • result is that checkIdentity -- the thing that brings up Larry -- shouldn't cause a measurable regression on Talos tests; we know it isn't perfect, but it's now in a landable state
    • will wait for a quiet time on the tree to land it so that we can watch for any perf issues
    • should be ready for M9
  • Installer
    • waiting for ui-r? on a single P1 bug
  • User Experience
    • three bugs marked uiwanted that are blocking M9
  • Theming/Visual Makeover
    • patch has been attached, requires the unified patch to be applied as well
    • really, really want this to land for beta 1

Security Review

  • Design Review Proposal
  • Suggested order for review
    • Password Manager (done)
    • Offline Apps (done?)
    • Places (when will you be ready?)
    • Web Content Handlers
    • Microformats
    • RSS
    • Add-Ons
    • Cross-domain XMLHttpRequest
    • Distribution/Customization
    • ContentEditable
    • Private Browsing
    • Malware Protection

QA Status/Topics

  • Some Windows Fx3 l10n builds are blocked in tinderbox. Bug 398954
  • Discussions ongoing with build team about testing against builds with debug bits enabled for download. Advantage would be to have more logging against memory leaks.
  • Fx 3 Test Plan wiki
  • Working on M9 features and test plans. Lots landing, daily smoketests and trunk landing verifications.
  • Work continues on Feature Test Plans linked from the Firefox 3 Test Plan Wiki.
  • This week's testday topic is Accessibility

Features Test Update

  • Addons : verifying 10 bugs, creating new test cases
  • Addons : awaiting word on new Addons Manager UI work to be done, so we can develop test plans
  • Platform Integration: Awaiting feedback on draft of the Gecko Platform Test Plan
  • Places : creating new test cases
  • Protocal handling: Created a RSS protocol handling test for the protocol handling team
  • Download Manager: Verified 8 bugs.
  • Microformats: Implementing Microformat tests for the FFX 3 microformat feature.
  • Security/Privacy: creating test cases.
  • Password Manager : Fx3 Password Manager test case review and feature exploration
  • Tabbed browsing / Search: work on testcases / verifications. Last week was testday topic. Tabbed Browsing Test Plan sent for review.
  • Accessibility: developing testcases for Friday testday

Build Topics

Localization Topics

Round table

  • sayrer: the front-end performance numbers are looking really good; we exceeded our original goals (910 local minimum on 9/26 --> 875 local minimum last night)
    • tabbrowser is a source of performance issues
    • would prefer landings to come in pieces instead of One Giant Patch
    • action item: mconnor and sayrer to break up and co-ordinate

Gecko 1.9 Meeting

Meeting Details

  • Wednesdays - 11:00am Pacific, 2:00pm Eastern, 18:00 UTC
  • Mozilla Building S - <script> conference room
  • 650-903-0800 or 650-215-1282 x91 Conf# 217 (US/INTL)
  • 1-800-707-2533 (pin 369) Conf# 217 (US)
  • join #granparadiso for backchannel

General Discussion

Blockers and Noms

Blockers report:

GFX Update

Layout Update

Content Update

Mac OS X Update

Platform/Build Tools Update