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Discussion Items

• Q3 goals recap (timr)
  • Q4 goals upcoming

• Tiger team testing revisit (marcia)
  • Tomcat and others cannot continue this effort
  • Is there value in continuing as we continue the push to 3.1?
  • DISCUSSION - how much bugs are we finding on this?
  • Perhaps run less often, but go deeper on focused areas (eg. windows one week, alternate mac/linux the next week)
  • Another idea is to alternate creating automation test cases, and eventually combine them into regular testing
  • Another idea, is to look at incoming bugs and address them quickly if blockers.
  • Or since we're alternating testdays, maybe look at the off weeks as tiger testing?

• SSL security server
  • bug 456001 - Need automated testing for SSL client auth
  • Marcia, juanb - was working on a EV cert server, decided to go with a VM. Will look into possible next step with SSL server.
  • Make it a two separate team goals for q4.
  • Bob Lord's Cryptography Test Plan Reference

• QMO content meeting (marcia)
  • Is this still a valid Q3 goal?
  • Teams should gather and meet
  • UPDATE - goal has been pushed to q4. Awaiting website, Jay will deliver tutorials. Site is close to go up.
  • Keep brainstorming content work. Plan for future meetings later on breaking this up.
  • Make this a regular checkin item for qae meetings.

• improvements to update testing in smoke/bfts (tracy)
  • how can we automate more update testing?
  • Clint mentioned ways to update gristmill tests to create profiles, run mochitests, and then update and run them again.
  • bug 456877 - Can we use MozRunner and JsBridge to do upgrade + mochitest runs? Filed to track this action item.

• Testday & Bugday Reassessment (tchung)
  • Doesn't seem as effective lately with attendance
  • Should we make changes?
  • Next Testday Scheduled for next week..any ideas for topics ? (if not, make it sense to do a testday ? ) - Tomcat
  • UPDATE - marcia is working on a proposal for this, and will have it ready for discussion at next meeting.

Project Updates

• Firefox 3.1 (tchung)
  • Testplan and assignments
  • Beta 1 code freeze on 9/30

• Firefox 3.0.3 (tchung)
  • bug 454708 caused a firedrill
  • Dev wants fast turnaround, like tonite. Lets discuss.

• Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (abillings)
  • ETA Today!

• Webdev update (stephend)
  • SUMO
    • Working on 0.7
  • AMO
    • Will be working on 4.0.2 as the fixes roll in
  • Marketing
    • Finished logo/style guide testing on Mozilla.com
    • Finishing up minor testing for an open-source marketing campaign

• Mobile update (joelm)

• Accessibility update (MarcoZ)
  • JAWS 10.0 public beta 2 was released today, with lots of fixes for Firefox 3.0.x and 3.1 support. Will be testing my reported issues and all other stuff again with this public beta.
  • Continuing to test TraceMonkey with accessibility-related sites and WAI-ARIA widgets like Dojo. Currently, Ubiquity is preventing many sites from functioning properly, see {{bug|451843]].
  • Always on the outlook for new feature landings such as Micro Formats, have connected with Alex and Mano on these.
  • Also watching progress on bug 436304, which, unlike bug 395980, will be a feature also screen reader users can take advantage of.

• No Testday this week. Off week

• Moz EU Camp Update (marcia, ctalbert)
  • October 25-26, 2008)
  • Invites have gone out
  • As of 9-17 we have 13 people confirmed.

• Gristmill Project (ctalbert)
  • New mozmill.xpi with lookup updates landed last night.
  • About 90% of anonymous element lookups should work now

Other topics?

• any Eggplant testing ideas?
• Seneca trip recap (timr, ctalbert, tomcat)