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SeaMonkey Meeting Details


  • Who's taking minutes? -> Ratty
  • Nominees for Friends of the Fish Tank?
    • Callek for his awesome work with Release Engineering.
    • Tonymec for bug triage and helping answer questions on the newsgroups.

Action Items

(who needs to do what that hasn't been recorded in a bug) We should assign people to the open items.



  • Mnyromyr to coordinate the SeaMonkey response to this years Google Summer of Code.



  • Get permission from Google to use their geolocation JSON service [KaiRo]. We can still only wait on the Google front right now. Didn't hear anything about open Geolocation service yet. No easy solution in sight.
    • At the "State of the Map - Europe" OpenStreetMap conference, KaiRo will try to get people to team up and create an open service.
  • MReimer's drawing tablet broke some time back so he stopped working on theme icons. We should look into asking Mozilla's Direct Giving Program [adriank].
    • MReimer 1) is not sure if he needs this and 2) wants to put this on hold until he gets more time to actually work more on SeaMonkey.
    • Note: Mozilla Direct Giving contact is sethb. However sethb is leaving Mozilla after FF4, no idea who will take over the Community Giving stuff then.

SeaMonkey 2.0.14

open blockers (0) blocker requests (0) fixed (27)

  • Based on Gecko, target April 19, see Releases, in sync with Firefox 3.5.19.

SeaMonkey 2.1 Beta 3

open blockers (0) blocker requests (0) targeted (0) fixed (113)

  • Firefox 4.0 has been released.
  • Beta 3 is the final feature and string freeze for the 2.1 series.
    • As of 3rd April, Midnight PDT, SeaMonkey has been locked under string freeze.
  • Shipped Extensions: Chatzilla and Venkman are fixed and installed into the profile now.
  • beta3 will be spun on 4th April as soon as l10n signoffs are ready, and then we will go for release (candidate) also as fast as possible.
    • (InvisibleSmiley:) AFAICT b3 is almost ready to roll!.
    • We missed a step with the L10n dashboard that should have been done right after Beta 2. Unfortunately, the guy to do this is Pike and he's off to Las Vegas until later today.
    • KaiRo plans to do the signoffs today, even if those are still marked for b2 for the moment, but we need to get ready for b3, and maybe we can kick it off without the dashboard being ready.
    • Don't fear being aggressive with blocker triage, If it isn't needed it doesn't block. By that same token, if you are able to fix a blocker please try and work on them before tackling any other bugs. All blocker patches have landed on the tree and we are feature-complete now! At least that's the idea, we hope the MailNews guys won't give us any more headaches.
    • Help patches can go in after b3 as string freeze doesn't affect Help.

Further 2.1 scheduling:

  • Please help updating the New 2.1 Features page as we go.
  • Beta 3 should be followed by 2.1pre and our own release (candidate), which can possibly be based on Gecko 2.0.1 (which is now guaranteed to come).
  • We should release within 6 weeks from FF4, but we should not release in the two weeks following FF4 final due to media being all about that release.
  • Managing the branching (or not) of comm-central for comm-20 will depend on the Messaging people, and they always want to push out branching to the last possible moment.
  • There might not be any more official security updates to the 1.9.1 branch after the upcoming one, so we should get a stable release based on Mozilla 2.0 out as soon as we can.

Feature List, Planning

Bug statistics for last two (full) weeks: 64 new, 53 fixed, 21 triaged.

Open reviews/flags: 37 review 11 super-review 0 ui-review 5 feedback

Major wanted/needed features:


Needing help, Unowned, Stalled
  • bug 570004 Popup/"doorhanger" notifications [Neil].
    • Implementation moved to bug 595810.
    • Only lwthemes doorhangers are left to do.
    • NO l10n-impact
  • bug 606683 Allow customization of toolbar in Composer and MailNews Composition [IanN].
    • A lot of untangling needs to go on between the 3 editors that we have. We can expect a bit of code cleanup for 2.1 but full customization will probably go as it needs work on TB too which is taking a while to get reviews on, plus feedback from kaze.
  • bug 581526 Add SeaMonkey support for the Windows 7 jump list [mcsmurf].
    • landed!
  • bug 627240 Consider shipping built-in extensions as being installed into profiles [KaiRo]
    • landed!
  • bug 601493 no "plugin crashed" UI [Ratty].
    • landed!
  • bug 521159 [SeaMonkey 2.1] Port |bug 514327 Detect outdated plugins and offer upgrade path|.
    • landed!
  • bug 573538 No options for Safe-Mode [InvisibleSmiley].
    • landed!

We also should take a look at the other items on 2.1-wanted Also the nominations need triaging.

  • We will need to take a close look at Lightning, which is mainly targeting Thunderbird.
    • Lightning 1.0b4 seems to be targeted to be Gecko 2.0-based.
    • Due to recent Lightning patches/fixes, Lightning nightlies are now working again on SM trunk.

Needing help, Unowned, Stalled
  • bug 460953 kill-rdf port.
  • bug 436794 Enable Mac OS X system address book per default and add UI.
    • SM UI needed, unowned, helpwanted.
  • bug 449728 Drag tabs between windows.
  • bug 477845 Build a standalone (Gecko 2.0) Composer. [kaze]
    • kaze is currently busy with his new job so doesn't have much time to spend on this.
    • bug 477840 Backport KompoZer to Composer (Depends on bug 477845).
    • kaze has done a ton of work there. We still need to work out some organizational issues. At the moment there is no active interest from MoMo for bringing standalone composer into comm-central. That's something we (KaiRo and kaze) will have to negotiate with the Thunderbird team (dmose).
  • bug 507841 Port Bug 422814 - Make account configuration quick, easy, and more secure (autoconfig, Quick Account Setup).
  • bug 533908 SeaMonkey Mail: tabs not restored [misak].
  • bug 523274 Complete new default theme icon set.
  • bug 526210 Update the icon set for the SeaMonkey Modern Theme.
    • bug 548778 New communicator icons (based on Strata theme) for SeaMonkey. Some proposed icons got posted, we should take a look how to get that contribution into the product.
    • The rest is unowned so far.
  • bug 87098 [SeaMonkey] Delete key should delete location bar history list entry.
    • No l10n impact
    • (InvisibleSmiley: ) Neil said "Actually our location bar history doesn't and can't use autocomplete at all.", moving to

For now only a drop zone for those that surely will not make 2.1 any more.

Roundtable - Personal Status Updates

Status Updates from developers - what are you working on, what's the progress, any other comments? (feel free to add yourself to the list if your name is missing and you have interesting status).




Release Engineering

  • Fixed:
    • bug 643216 (SM2.0.13) Tracking bug for build and release of SeaMonkey 2.0.13.
    • bug 645437 Allow setting the revision in an hgPoller to a specific build property [RelEng].
    • bug 645628 Recover from |abort: abandoned transaction found - run hg recover!| on cn-sea-qm-win2k3-01.
    • bug 646644 Investigate (and fix) why our Build Machines are no longer merging requests.
    • bug 646729 [SeaMonkey] Upload logs for l10n builds.
    • bug 646742 Update current master setup to point at tools repo for some master helpers.
  • Working on:
    • bug 643324 Enable the shared checkouts from CCMercurialBuildFactory.
    • bug 645616 Re-Deploy Buildbot Master 0.8 based on structure of Firefox Masters.
    • bug 646723 Install kypM-ssh on windows slaves.
    • bug 646725 Deploy Java 6u14 (Development Kit and Runtimes) to windows slaves.
    • bug 646732 [SeaMonkey] run make package/installer/update-packaging with MOZ_PKG_PRETTYNAMES=1 on dep/nightly builds.
    • bug 647107 snippet details URL is not secure, can spoof major updates.

Other stuff

  • Fixed:
    • bug 589506 Scrub the codebase of MOZ_VIEW_SOURCE and MOZ_JSLOADER [Toolkit].
    • bug 636215 browser/locales/ cleanup, remove prepare-repackages and prepare-upload-* [Build Config].


  • Fixed:
  • For checkin:
    • bug 366774 - Remove unused preference bidi.characterset.
  • Working On:
    • bug 56365 - mailOverlay.xul abuses <script>...</script>.
    • bug 451960 - s/observes=/command=/g in /editor/ui/*.
    • bug 479647 - remove intl.charset.default from
    • bug 601562 - Update Modern theme from missingPlugin.css to PluginProblem.css
    • bug 647322 - Port |bug 640649 - Remove unused cmd_file| to SeaMonkey.
    • bug 647685 - mailTasksOverlay is over 60% script.
  • To Do:
    • bug 633937 - Make use of the toolkit's notificationbox to display notifications in MailNews (Port bug 562048)


  • Usual testing, reviewing and commenting.
  • Fixed:
    • bug 645019 Remove unused part of platformNavigationBindings.xul
    • bug 644954 Remove unused editor and browser bindings files
    • bug 645581 Dialog prompts to save from Text Editor should not be "Export as Text"
    • bug 643761 Move snapToGrid, pageProperties and publishSettings from editorOverlay to editor
    • bug 643834 Move cmd_validate command from editorOverlay to editor
    • bug 643784 Cannot open file from debugQATextEditorShell.xul
  • Waiting for review on:
    • bug 638643 Remove obsolete EditorToggleParagraphMarks from editor.js
    • bug 638964 Allow customization of formatting toolbar in Mail Composition [TB]
    • bug 647481 Remove nsInt64, nsUint64 and nsTime from comm-central
    • bug 647003 Remove use of nsAutoLock from LDAP SDK code
    • bug 643788 Move cmd_exportToText, cmd_preview and cmd_editSendPage out of editorOverlay
  • Working on:
    • bug 606683 Allow customization of toolbar in Composer and MailNews Composition
    • bug 639690 [META] Re-arrange code between editor and editorOverlay.
  • To Do:
    • bug 639395 Get cmd_fontSize to reflect current state of selected content / content at caret.
    • Prefs-in-a-tab.


  • Fixed:
    • bug 573538 No options for Safe-Mode
    • bug 643271 Late-coming post-checkin comments from Neil on bookmarks UI
    • bug 646609 Always enable Close Tab in the tab context menu
    • bug 632952 Port |bug 612699 - Sync UI: Update to simplify crypto|
    • bug 643219 Create 2.0.13 relnotes
    • bug 644283 Update SeaMonkey website for 2.0.13 release
    • bug 637897 Make Loaded Scripts Search case-insensitive
    • bug 638243 Print function definition for eval in target scope (and fix warning for second argument to eval)
    • bug 634419 Port |bug 602682 - Sync UI: Implement easy setup|
    • bug 639339 Port |bug 619013 - Wording in Update Sync Key dialog needs to be more clear|
    • bug 642521 Port |bug 623795 - Sync setup and Add a Device wizard should trigger master password dialog and bail if that's cancelled|







  • Refixed bug 639212 Fix sidebar so it works with editor/messagecompose [bset is null].



  • bug 521159 [SeaMonkey 2.1] Port |bug 514327 Detect outdated plugins and offer upgrade path|.
  • bug 540322 Improve the external string API to align it with the internal string API.
  • bug 581307 XPCOMUtils should provide a convenient way to lazily import modules.
  • bug 581309 Remove unused properties from XPCOMUtils.
  • bug 626716 Remove VC7.1 support code.
  • bug 632344 autoconf-2.13's AC_CHECK_HEADER is too slow for some headers e.g. atlbase.h.
  • bug 637080 "Subscribe to This Page" in Bookmarks toolbar menu always disabled and lacks icon.
  • bug 641330 maxrows="10" doesn't work.
  • bug 643799 Show notification bar offering to restart when content tries to load a 32-bit plugin using carbon-based NPAPI.
  • bug 644513 Remove the presshell argument to nsEudoraEditor::Init as it's no longer necessary.
  • bug 644963 Remove ToInteger workarounds.
  • bug 644982 Missing plugin isn't keyboard accessible.
  • bug 645062 Error in console when adding/removing search box from toolbar.
  • bug 646210 Bookmark details pane should always show description for bookmark queries.
  • bug 646257 Access key for expander button only works once.
  • bug 646894 [Restart in Safe Mode] Add a checkbox in the prompt to choose between safe and normal restart.

Needs Checkin:

  • bug 611503 Constructing an nsTDependentString from an nsTAString makes no sense.

Working on:

  • bug 595810 Centralise notifications for ease of conversion to doorhangers. Need to address review comments before check in.
  • bug 642404 <autocomplete disablehistory="false"> does not display correctly on Linux.


Bugs fixed:

  • bug 511096 SeaMonkey/SMILE port of FUEL bug 458688 (occasional browser_Browser.js timeouts) [Final Update].
  • bug 574612 Add "Restart in Safe Mode" menuitem to the Help menu..
  • bug 601493 no "plugin crashed" UI.
  • bug 634364 Restore option to open context menu web search in new window (regression after SM2.0).
  • bug 644604 Remove obsolete aMask parameter from tabbrowser's addProgressListener method.
  • bug 647571 Add Places Bookmarks interfaces to SMILE.

Working on:

  • Update modern/global for SeaMonkey 2.1.


  • Bug triage and Bug discussions.
  • End user support and PR in newsgroups and Mozillazine.



  • Fixed SeaMonkey (related) bugs:


  • Did some reviews.
  • Fixed:
    • bug 611759 [Pinstripe] Remove '-moz-appearance: treeheadersortarrow' from listbox.css/tree.css.
    • bug 623660 Change FilterEditor dimensions (and move them to relevant .dtd files) [MailNews].
    • bug 640514 [Mac Default] Style the search bar.
  • Working on:
    • bug 643323 [Mac Default] Need disabled icon for 'Subscribe to This Page' in Bookmarks toolbar menu.

Any other business?