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SeaMonkey Meeting Details


  • Who's taking minutes? -> mcsmurf
  • Nominees for Friends of the Fish Tank:
    • -

Action Items

(who needs to do what that hasn't been recorded in a bug) We should assign people to the open items.


  • Decide about what RSS feed readers to add in bug 943318; suggestions by mcsmurf: Add AOL Reader and Feedly



Status of the SeaMonkey Buildbot Master and Tree

  • We are perma-red and perma-orange on comm-central and comm-aurora due to not having a recent enough version of Python (or if we do, the build scripts aren't finding them).
    • With the December 9 merge, these problems should now affect comm-beta as well (i.e., SM 2.24).
    • On trunk Linux and OSX trunk builds are perma-red. Windows en-US builds are being successfully compiled but tests are not working due to a dependency on python 2.7.3.
    • bug 908090 ImportError: No module named json, on SeaMonkey Linux/Windows (all) test runs, due to (still) using Python 2.5. We do have python 2.7 installed but our build system is picking up python 2.5 instead.
    • pymake is failing with "invalid syntax" again because of an outdated Python.
    • Priority on fixing this and l10n repacks after 2.23 release.(No ETA yet)
    • bug 943740 is tracking the progress (or lack of one) in building trunk and aurora on Linux & Mac from the downloading user's POV. (Windows nightlies are still appearing on schedule — or were until a day or two ago.)
  • No langpacks since 29th August on trunk. Needs investigating.
    • Windows and Mac trunk langpacks directories have been removed on the FTP server, maybe for lack of recent XPIs (later than 2.20a1). Latest Linux langpacks are dated 29 August. Callek told Tonymec on IRC he has a hunch about why but more pressing things to do first.
    • In Bug 902876 Comment 12 Mcsmurf is waiting for feedback from the build team on how to proceed.
    • Trunk, Aurora and Beta TBPLs are far more orange (or even red) than green; at the top of Aurora and Beta TBPLs there is a link to bug 870207 which is RESOLVED WONTFIX since June. SeaMonkey::RelEng bug 884454 has been opened as a followup.
  • Buildmaster is up and running.
    • Callek is hand-approving requests for CLOSED TREE landings at the moment.
  • bug 740633 set up seamonkey HPs in scl3. Hardware installed and iLO configured. CentOS 6.3 installed.
  • comm-* will be building out of mozilla-* eventually (bug 648979 etc.). Jcrammer is working on this.

Release Train

  • SeaMonkey 2.23 beta 1 was released December 6.
  • SeaMonkey 2.23 beta 2 was released December 8.
  • SeaMonkey 2.23 final is scheduled for December 10.
    • But might be delayed.

Extensions and Plugins Compatibility Tracking

  • See Basics page. Please only list current changes here.
  • Addon Compatibility Listings
  • bug 888478 DOM Inspector could not be installed.
    • The Windows version of SeaMonkey 2.21 is affected but not Linux. The install.rdf is missing in affected builds. The last SeaMonkey 2.23 nightly build (before uplift to 2.24) does not seem to be affected possibly because of the other build changes during that cycle (bug 914560).
  • Lightning doesn't work on SeaMonkey trunk due to:
    • bug 925823 (Failed to load native module
  • Lightning and
    • We should point out in release notes that users needs to install the Lightning beta versions for the SeaMonkey releases (as Lightning follows Thunderbird 17.0.x release schedule)
    • Problem: Linking to will provide users with versions that do not put them on the addons beta update channel; also linking to a specific version would need updating with every release
    • Linking to does not jump to the correct page position as loads the user comments for the addon after pageload. So it first moves to the correct position (page anchor) and after that it loads the user comments
  • Our build team needs to automate DOMI branch selection rather than having to tweak the every 6 weeks. bug 763506
  • SeaMonkey 2.23 dropped support for the old XPFE autocomplete widget, so any addon using it is probably broken now (for example Nostalgy addon). Addons can use the toolkit autocomplete widget these days.

2.x (Last, Current, Next)

  • [From a previous meeting:] There is a problem with the metrics server, so no current data is available
  • See Basics page for the usual reminders.


open tracking (0) tracking requests (3) targeted (0) fixed (15)


  • Current breakages:
    • [mozilla-central] bug 856270 Update nsEditorSpellCheck to use nsIContentPrefService2.
      • This broke comm-central in various ways:
      • Core bug 887010 InlineSpellChecker.addDictionaryListToMenu fails if called straight after InlineSpellChecker.enabled is set to true (and no async work around).
  • Mozilla-central bugs that affect us:
    • Note: Please file bugs if you notice any landing on mozilla-central that might break us. Please don't depend on Ratty noticing such landings.
    • A lot of these bugs are due to mozilla-central switching from synchronous APIs to Asynchronous APIs.
    • bug 831208 (asyncContentPrefsUse) Refactor asyncContentPrefs consumers to use the async API. Tracked in:
      • bug 909093 Update SeaMonkey to use nsIContentPrefService2. Mcsmurf and Neil@parkway are currently working on this.
    • bug 566746 (asyncFormHistory) Form history should use asynchronous storage API. Tracked in:
      • bug 912031 Use Asynchronous FormHistory.jsm in place of nsIFormHistory2 in Suite.
    • bug 769764 move proxy resolution to separate thread and remove sync api. Tracked in:
      • MailNews bug 791645 Rewrite calls to synchronous nsIProtocolProxyService::DeprecatedBlockingResolve with Async code before DeprecatedBlockingResolve disappears as well.
    • bug 793634 Force builds to be compatible with gtk 2.18/glib 2.22. Tracked in:
    • bug 795144 default --disable-gnomeui icon theme support
      • porting bug needed for the two changesets? Changes could be folded into bug 794772 above. *** IanN and Ewong are looking into this..
    • bug 627699 Port GTK2 to GTK3. Tracked in:
      • bug 882036 Port GTK2 to GTK3 - SeaMonkey Part.
      • A Red Hat person seems to be working on the GTK3 integration.
    • bug 846635 Use asynchronous getCharsetForURI in getShortcutOrURI. bug 834543 Add asynchronous version of setCharsetForURI and getCharsetForURI. Tracked in:
      • bug 896947 Use asynchronous version of setCharsetForURI and getCharsetForURI in getShortcutOrURI and other places.
    • bug 825588 Asynchronous JavaScript API for downloads and bug 851471 Decommission nsIDownloadManager. Tracked in:
      • bug 888915 Move SeaMonkey to the new JavaScript API for downloads when nsIDownloadManager is decommissioned.

Feature List, Planning

Private Browsing is now available in SeaMonkey 2.19 and newer. There may be some edge cases have probably been missed. We hope any remaining bugs will be found before we formally announce.

  • Testing would be appreciated! Please file bugs as blocking the meta bug 460895.

Bug statistics for the last two (full) weeks: 26 new, 10 fixed, 9 triaged.

  • Low to Medium triaging effort.

Open reviews/flags: 23 review 7 super-review 2 ui-review 6 feedback

Roundtable - Personal Status Updates

Status Updates from developers - what are you working on, what's the progress, any other comments? (feel free to add yourself to the list if your name is missing and you have interesting status).





  • bug 607776 Make the default for shipped-locales work for non-browser apps.
  • bug 812981 Put up snippets for linux64 minor and major updates to SeaMonkey 2.19 and Beta to current Beta of SeaMonkey.
  • bug 827178 Update stage.m.o cron to match recent changes with ffxbld cron.
  • bug 845844 Deploy updated tbpl to
  • bug 884454 Bring up sea-master1 with puppet.
  • bug 890429 SeaMonkey master failing to upload log files.


  • Review:
    • bug 738786 - Port Bug 284379 - Enabling middlemouse.contentLoadURL and middle clicking a tab should still close tab
    • bug 840427 - Migrate SeaMonkey builders to using mock
    • bug 853720 - After bug 827446, SeaMonkey doesn't know mozcrash.
    • bug 864291 - Remove "Personas" from UI and Help
    • bug 904338 - Empty port line when create a Blogs & Newsfeeds account
    • bug 918474 - Default Search dropdown doesn't get refreshed after adding new search engine
    • bug 928632 - When the birth year is empty, SeaMonkey puts 1900 and in English language
    • bug 934492 - Adjust the languages preference pane to take into account Bug 910192 which removes intl.charset.default and deduces the fallback from the locale
  • Working On:
    • bug 110904 - attach signature fails silently on bad paths
    • bug 507676 - Port |Bug 435804 - Remaining rdf cleanup for FilterListDialog| to SeaMonkey
    • bug 837649 - [Tracking Bug] Stop OSX 10.5 support for SeaMonkey project
    • bug 837650 - Stop support for OSX 10.5 in suite/ tree
    • bug 863747 - Add option to disable Location bar history
    • bug 938673 - Add context menu to status bar padlock icon


  • Some testing, reviewing and commenting.
  • Fixed:
    • bug 937558 Need new Venkman and Chatzilla branches
  • Pending check in:
  • Checked in pending review:
  • Waiting for feedback/review:
    • bug 837408 Add en-GB locale to gaia
    • bug 943096 Search subfolders checkbox is always disabled in Search Messages dialog
  • Fixing review comments before checkin:
    • bug 757230 When using add button for permissions in Data Manager set a displayHost
    • bug 798147 Switch to correct pref pane if pref window already open
    • bug 778534 Use image instead of html:img in instant messaging
  • Working on:
    • Various SM Council documents.
    • bug 606683 Allow customization of toolbar in Composer and MailNews Composition
    • bug 639690 [META] Re-arrange code between editor and editorOverlay
    • bug 773979 [META] Switch to new drag and drop api in SeaMonkey
    • bug 657234 Move pasteQuote and pasteNoFormatting into contentAreaContextOverlay
    • bug 943318 Remove Google as a content handler for feeds, because Reader and iGoogle are being discontinued
    • bug 943335 [TB] Update icons used in searchplugins (Yahoo, eBay, Wikipedia, Amazon, Bing, Twitter)
    • File/Folder selection in windows.
  • To Do:
    • bug 639395 Get cmd_fontSize to reflect current state of selected content / content at caret.
    • Prefs-in-a-tab.
    • Create FAQ for Friends of the Fish Tank.
    • Help get composer standalone builds working with --enable-tests.







Forgot to land on comm-central, might need uplift too:

  • bug 937616 Click-to-play notifications should track plugins that are no longer present in the page.

Fixed on comm-central:

  • bug 947725 --enable-xterm-updates no longer works.

Fixed on mozilla-central:

  • bug 936933 Unable to scroll overflowing block with arrow keys if page contains a contenteditable element.

Fixed on comm-aurora:

  • bug 934013 Modern Theme doesn't get packaged anymore.

Fixed on mozilla-aurora:

  • bug 943804 Some binding changes not properly reflected in event handling.
  • bug 892638 Assertion when unhooking XML prettyprinter due to node insertion.

Fixed on comm-beta:

  • bug 938447 Autohide menubar does not operate properly.

Waiting for review:

  • bug 947619 Tabs bookmarked in private windows have no titles.

Still waiting for review:

  • bug 909093 Update SeaMonkey to use nsIContentPrefService2.
  • bug 514173 Make string literal buffers shareable.



Waiting for check-in on CLOSED TREE:

  • bug 154772 Tooltip for address bar should show complete current URL.
  • bug 916865 Revert the part of bug 906083 which changed the
  • bug 942548 The height of editor spell check dialog is too short so you can see only the top of the buttons at the bottom.
  • bug 947599 Set up DLL blocklist before LoadAppInitDlls (Port bug 932100 to SeaMonkey).

Waiting for review/moa:

  • bug 920070 Add a few IDs to the File menuitems to make it easier for extensions to overlay.

Working on:

Other stuff:

  • Did some reviews.
  • Bug triage and Bug discussions.
  • Usual end user support and PR in newsgroups and Mozillazine.


Fixed on trunk:

  • bug 354940 Make background color in URL bar for https: more obvious.
  • Spin-off bug, patch posted:
    • bug 947972 Add checkbox to toggle https: background color in Location Bar preference pane.

Fixed on comm-beta:

  • bug 931484 Apply transparency rule to signatures only once even if they are nested.

Waiting for reviews:

  • bug 939481 No sync preferences defined for some Privacy & Security settings.
  • bug 939566 Take care of Mac-specific issues with the window title in the about:privatebrowsing page.
  • bug 936898 Add global alert icons in missing sizes to the modern theme.


  • Bug triage, testing, and commenting for SeaMonkey and MailNews Core.
  • End-user information and discussion on MozillaZine.






  • NEW (dogfood, regression)
    • bug 112578 (enh) search mails window : search subfolders should remember last state
      • One-liner port from Thunderbird, r? since 2013-10-20
      • NEEDINFO from Thunderbird QA since 2013-11-26 (what does Tb do in similar circumstances?)
  • FIXED (verifyme)
    • bug 934191 (min) The title of the "Quit SeaMonkey" dialog is misleading when closing just the Browser
      • can only be VERIFIED on Windows atm: needs 2.25a1 later than 2013-11-12
      • 2.24a2-wontfix because new strings

Triageing etc. as usual.

Any other business?

  • Meeting schedule:
    • There won't be a meeting on Christmas Eve 2013-12-24.
    • Thus we shall meet again on 2014-01-07.