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SeaMonkey Meeting Details


  • Who's taking minutes? -> mcsmurf
  • Nominees for Friends of the Fish Tank:
    • IanN

Action Items

(who needs to do what that hasn't been recorded in a bug) We should assign people to the open items.



  • has not been updated since November 2012, the last version listed is 2.14 (bug 956561); move blog to if possible Assigned: mcsmurf.
    • Mcsmurf says that it looks like we might be getting a blog on
    • KaiRo will do some DNS magic to get it mirrored at
    • bug 973886 for creating the blog account
  • bug 998807 Sync account creation or device pairing fails with exception in BrowserIDManager
    • mcsmurf will look into this


Status of the SeaMonkey Buildbot Master and Tree

  • Buildmaster is up and running.
    • Due to the master having some mysql issues, Callek has put a halt on the mysql updates, which affects the tbpl. So nothing is showing in tbpl atm.
  • comm-* will be building out of mozilla-* (bug 648979 etc.). Jcrammer has completed the coding. The decision to merge c-c into m-c has been kicked down the road into the next quarter or two.
  • [5th August 2014 update]
    • All available linux64 machines are up and running buildbot (CentOS 6.5)
    • Currently the buildmaster is manually patched (with patches from bug 840427) to run jobs but ewong is continually tweaking the buildbot-config/buildbotcustom code to make the Linux* machines run Mock.
      • The following are 'old' info being kept as a reference:
        • Migrating our Linux builders to CentOS 6 bug 795354. Puppetmaster has been updated. Ewong is able to login to these hosts and buildbot is installed. We still need to get everything setup for parity and do some slight tweaks to the puppet config, but we're pretty close to useable.
        • In Progress: 2.28 beta and final will depend on build system working again for Gecko 31.0
        • bug 983536 libpango version >= 1.22.0 required on Linux.(should be fixed when bug 795354 is fixed).
        • bug 977676 SeaMonkey's puppet broken due to requirement of ffxbld ldap password.
        • bug 943740 is tracking the progress (or lack of one) in building trunk and aurora on Linux & Mac from the downloading user's POV.
        • bug 840426 tracks the buildbot-config and buildbotcustom code changes to support Mock on our linux* slaves.
        • bug 853720 tracks the builders not recognizing mozcrash. (Not exactly sure if it's relevant still, since our builders have been so perma-red for some time; but putting this here just in case.)
    • We are perma-orange on comm-central, comm-aurora and comm-beta due to problems with tests
      • Windows en-US builds are being successfully compiled but tests are not working due to a dependency on python 2.7.3.
  • pymake has been discontinued. We need to install the latest Mozilla-build and tooltool on our windows builders (tracked by bug 1023644 )
  • No langpacks since 29th August 2013 on trunk. Needs investigating.
    • Windows and Mac trunk langpacks directories have been removed on the FTP server, maybe for lack of recent XPIs (later than 2.20a1). Latest Linux langpacks are dated 29 August. Callek told Tonymec on IRC he has a hunch about why but more pressing things to do first.
    • In Bug 902876 Comment 12 Mcsmurf is waiting for feedback from the build team on how to proceed.

Release Train

  • Callek plans to have at least one 2.28 beta as soon as we get the Linux builders up.
    • SeaMonkey 2.28 beta 1 and final are intended to follow within two weeks after last merge (i.e., by the time of this meeting), otherwise another 2.26.x update will follow (Callek's news post, MZ announcement).
  • Useful Firefox Release Schedule link: Releases Scheduling

Extensions and Plugins Compatibility Tracking

2.x (Last, Current, Next)

  • [From a previous meeting:] There is a problem with the metrics server, so no current data is available
  • See Basics page for the usual reminders.


open tracking (0) tracking requests (1) targeted (0) fixed (30)


open tracking (0) tracking requests (1) targeted (0) fixed (16)


  • Stalled. Needs a kick.
    • bug 937809 Add DuckDuckGo to the default search engines list.
    • bug 815954 Click-to-Play: Port bug 812562 (click-to-play blocklisted plugins: reshow urlbar notification as with normal click-to-play).
    • bug 476108 GetShortPathNameW fails under some NTFS junctions [patchlove].
  • Current breakages:
    • bug 998807 Sync account creation or device pairing fails with exception in BrowserIDManager needs an owner
    • bug 995737 adapt seamonkey for the ab remote content policy change; use permission manager instead of address book property.
  • Mozilla-central bugs that affect us:
    • Our front end Sync UI needs to be updated as the old backend is going away in Gecko/Firefox 31. See: New Firefox Sync has landed in Firefox Nightly. Tracked in:
      • bug 998807 Sync account creation or device pairing fails with exception in BrowserIDManager.
      • bug 1003434 Add support for about:sync-progress.
    • A lot of these bugs are due to mozilla-central switching from synchronous APIs to Asynchronous APIs.
    • bug 566746 (asyncFormHistory) Form history should use asynchronous storage API. Tracked in:
      • bug 912031 Use Asynchronous FormHistory.jsm in place of nsIFormHistory2 in Suite.
    • bug 769764 move proxy resolution to separate thread and remove sync api. Tracked in:
      • MailNews bug 791645 Rewrite calls to synchronous nsIProtocolProxyService::DeprecatedBlockingResolve with Async code before DeprecatedBlockingResolve disappears as well.
    • bug 793634 Force builds to be compatible with gtk 2.18/glib 2.22. Tracked in:
    • bug 795144 default --disable-gnomeui icon theme support
      • porting bug needed for the two changesets? Changes could be folded into bug 794772 above. *** IanN and Ewong are looking into this..
    • bug 846635 Use asynchronous getCharsetForURI in getShortcutOrURI. bug 834543 Add asynchronous version of setCharsetForURI and getCharsetForURI. Tracked in:
      • bug 896947 Use asynchronous version of setCharsetForURI and getCharsetForURI in getShortcutOrURI and other places.
    • bug 825588 Asynchronous JavaScript API for downloads and bug 851471 Decommission nsIDownloadManager. Tracked in:
      • bug 888915 Move SeaMonkey to the new JavaScript API for downloads when nsIDownloadManager is decommissioned.

Feature List, Planning

Bug statistics for the last two (full) weeks: 34 new, 22 fixed, 11 triaged.

  • Medium triaging effort.

Open reviews/flags: 29 review 6 super-review 1 ui-review 4 feedback

  • See Feature List page for major wanted/needed features.
  • TODO: We will need to update our Sync UI code due to the new Sync API. Also we need to check if we are allowed to create FX accounts from our UI Since the new Sync accounts are FX accounts.[IanN] I'm sure I saw a question about FX accounts and branding.

Roundtable - Personal Status Updates

Status Updates from developers - what are you working on, what's the progress, any other comments? (feel free to add yourself to the list if your name is missing and you have interesting status).





  • Usual testing, reviewing and commenting.
  • Fixed:
    • bug 1043019 Port |bug 1036894 - Move in-tree library linkage information to| and |bug 1041936 - Allow static library definitions to depend on shared libraries| to comm-central
    • bug 1043040 Port |bug 1036694 - merge nsIMarkupDocumentViewer into nsIContentViewer| to comm-central
    • bug 1044460 Port relevant changes from bug 1043344 for moving libraries and programs build to the compile tier
    • bug 1045026 Cannot use "thunderbird" as PROGRAM name, because it is already used in mail/components/search/mdimporter
    • bug 1046468 toolkit/library has an inter-dependency on ldap for comm-central that it needs to be told about in the world
    • bug 1046638 Port |bug 1044162 - make install locations for EXTRA_{PP_,}JS_MODULES better| to comm-central
    • bug 1047702 recursivemake's scan for Makefiles with XPI_PKGNAME or INSTALL_EXTENSION_ID should take account of comm-central
    • bug 1048561 Fix up after landing of bug 1043041 - Replace use of NSPR's PRTime with a safer type in mozilla::pkix
  • Pending check in:
  • Checked in pending review:
  • Waiting for feedback/review:
    • bug 1046826 Use m-c's config/makefiles/ in c-c's
    • bug 1047924 When building with ac_add_options --enable-extensions extensions are put expanded into the wrong location in dist/bin
  • Fixing review comments before checkin:
    • bug 757230 When using add button for permissions in Data Manager set a displayHost
    • bug 798147 Switch to correct pref pane if pref window already open
  • Working on:
    • bug 1047981 Port |bug 1047924 - When building with ac_add_options --enable-extensions extensions are put expanded into the wrong location in dist/bin| to comm-central
    • bug 943335 [TB] Update icons used in searchplugins (Yahoo, eBay, Wikipedia, Amazon, Bing, Twitter)
    • Various SM Council documents.
    • bug 606683 Allow customization of toolbar in Composer and MailNews Composition
    • bug 639690 [META] Re-arrange code between editor and editorOverlay
    • bug 773979 [META] Switch to new drag and drop api in SeaMonkey
    • bug 657234 Move pasteQuote and pasteNoFormatting into contentAreaContextOverlay
    • File/Folder selection in windows.
  • To Do:
    • bug 639395 Get cmd_fontSize to reflect current state of selected content / content at caret.
    • Prefs-in-a-tab.
    • Create FAQ for Friends of the Fish Tank.
    • Help get composer standalone builds working with --enable-tests.




  • Various things




Helped land fix on mozilla-central:

Needs checkin (waiting for greener tree):

Needs checkin and aurora approval (waiting for greener tree):

Needs beta checkin (waiting for greener tree):

  • bug 934492 Adjust the preference panes for the removal of the charset data source.

Needs beta backout (bug 933462 was backed out on Gecko 30):

Waiting for review on fixed patch:

  • bug 896947 Use asynchronous version of getCharsetForURI in getShortcutOrURI.

Still waiting for review:




  • bug 986548 SeaMonkey 2.25 always crashes when trying to access email (landed on all branches).
  • Remove the old Content Security Policy component from

Needs checkin (waiting for greener tree):

  • bug 1035171 Switching tabs triggers onLocationChange with LOCATION_CHANGE_SAME_DOCUMENT flag.
  • bug 1039933 While composing mail, there exists an empty line in attachment context menu when right clicked on the attachment area
  • bug 1040771 Allow about: pages to opt in to IndexedDB optionally specifying a desired origin.
  • bug 1041327 Record submission event for plugin crashes [notifications].

Working on:

  • bug 1041317 Package form.requestAutocomplete components.
  • bug 1047519 Remove the old Content Security Policy component from
  • bug 1040910 Support XHTML in feed titles.

Other stuff:

  • Did some reviews.
  • Bug triage and Bug discussions.
  • Usual end user support and PR in newsgroups and Mozillazine.


Draft patch pending:

  • bug 1032302 8BITMIME keyword ignored in EHLO greeting, BODY=8BITMIME absent in MAIL request for 8-bit transfers. (MailNews)


  • Bug triage, testing, and commenting for SeaMonkey and MailNews Core.
  • Monday-morning quarterbacking on Thunderbird 31.0 release.
  • End-user information and discussion on MozillaZine.





Any other business?


  • [Ratty] KaiRo reminded us that we need to grow our contributor community. Perhaps we can get some Engagement experts from Mozilla to give us some suggestions?
    • [IanN] might have a chat with some people and see if they can point me in the right direction.