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SeaMonkey Meeting Details


  • Who's taking minutes? -> Ratty
  • Nominees for Friends of the Fish Tank:
    • The Release Team (Callek and Ewong)
      • tonymec proposes the SeaMonkey RelEng unit (as a group) for "citation to the order of the day (Mention in Dispatches) with Order of the Fish Tank and fourragère for courage and gallantry above and beyond the call of duty in particularly hostile circumstances, culminating in the reestablishment of nightly en-US builds of SeaMonkey for all four supported platforms, to wit: Linux32, Linux64, Windows32 and Mac-Universal". Linux builds in 17 other languages, as well as for en-US, and langpacks for the same, are published every night by Adrian Kalla, named Friend of the Fish Tank for this reason two fortnights ago, on his user site, for Linux32 and Linux64 and for trunk, aurora, beta and occasionaly release branches.

Action Items

(who needs to do what that hasn't been recorded in a bug) We should assign people to the open items.


  • bug 1057920 SeaMonkey's CVS dependency really should be removed. (currently used only for Releng Automation, and SeaMonkey Website).
    • IanN will create a separate bug for the releng automation stuff and will find out what is required to get the work done.


  • has not been updated since November 2012, the last version listed is 2.14 (bug 956561); move blog to if possible Assigned: mcsmurf.
    • blog account has been created in bug 973886
    • Callek has imported old blogs from mozillazine
    • some sprucing / branding needs to happen next
  • bug 998807 Sync account creation or device pairing fails with exception in BrowserIDManager
    • mcsmurf will look into this


Status of the SeaMonkey Buildbot Master and Tree

  • Buildmaster is up and running, and produces en-US builds, see Friends of the Fish Tank above. Builds and langpacks in 18 languages including en-US are available unofficially thanks to A.Kalla, see also FOFT above.
    • Due to the master having some mysql issues, Callek has put a halt on the mysql updates, which affects the tbpl. So nothing is showing in tbpl atm.
  • comm-* will be building out of mozilla-* (bug 648979 etc.). Jcrammer has completed the coding. The decision to merge c-c into m-c has been kicked down the road into the next quarter or two.
    • Recent work on this:
    • bug 1040009 .mozconfig configure options are ignored if objdir path is absolute
    • bug 1035599 Pseudo-merge m-c and c-c's objdir
  • [16th September 2014]
    • [rsx11m] The most recent Windows nightly builds were 13-Jun-2014 09:36 for 2.30a1 and 21-Jul-2014 10:17 for 2.29a2. [ewong] Besides infrastructural issues, comm-central has flattened the objdir, which needs further infra changes. [IanN] There has been a lot of build system changes in the last few months.
    • [comm-central]
    • [comm-aurora]
    • [comm-beta]
      • Linux-debug busted due to bug 1053081)
      • OSX debug busted (not yet determined)
  • [1st September 2014]
    • All Linux64 machines(except the buildbot master) have decided to go on strike/AWOL/whatever. (Not good, obviously, but not something Callek or ewong can do until DCOps kickstart them, and since Monday is a holiday, it'll be after Tuesday before anything's done.) bug 1058385 Ergo, All trees are closed.
      • w0ts0n from #it took a look at sea-hp-linux64-9 and said it had a 'Disk error'. (Again, not good. In fact, exactly the same situation as sea-hp-linux64-2.)
    • Thankfully, the last slave (-13) went AWOL *after* the 2.29b2 release. (If it was going to go AWOL, after release would be the best time; of course, *not going AWOL* would've been preferential.)
    • Buildbotcustom/config release code is still being tweaked to get release done.
  • pymake has been discontinued. We need to install the latest Mozilla-build and tooltool on our windows builders (tracked by bug 1023644 )
  • No langpacks since 29th August 2013 on trunk. Needs investigating.
    • Windows and Mac trunk langpacks directories have been removed on the FTP server, maybe for lack of recent XPIs (later than 2.20a1). Latest Linux langpacks are dated 29 August. Callek told Tonymec on IRC he has a hunch about why but more pressing things to do first.
    • In Bug 902876 Comment 12 Mcsmurf is waiting for feedback from the build team on how to proceed.

Release Train

  • SeaMonkey 2.29 was released on 7th September 2014.
  • There shall be a 2.30 beta soon. Schedule TBA.
  • Useful Firefox Release Schedule link: Releases Scheduling

Extensions and Plugins Compatibility Tracking

  • Firefox & Thunderbird Add-on Converter for SeaMonkey
  • This tool goes a little further beyond simply modifying install.rdf - it also identifies a few more other things in the code that are Firefox or Thunderbird specific and attempts to change them. Of course, not all extensions can be ported so easily to SeaMonkey since there's only so much an automated tool like that can do.

    Add-on Converter for SeaMonkey:

    • There is a long list of Firefox and Thunderbird extensions that have been successfully converted in the Mozillazine thread[1]. Can someone go through the thread and add the list of successful conversions to SeaMonkey/AddonCompat.
  • bug 1060858 Ghostery 5.3.1 does not support SeaMonkey. Ghostery depends on the Addon-SDK. Since the SDK has been rewritten to support Firefox Australis redesign, Ghostery no longer works for SeaMonkey. Ratty has emailed regarding this.
  • See Basics page. Please only list current changes here.
  • Addon Compatibility Listings
  • Ratty filed bug 957149 to push an updated version of DOMi to to pick up the latest fixes. Depends on:
  • Our build team needs to automate DOMI branch selection rather than having to tweak the every 6 weeks. bug 763506

2.x (Last, Current, Next)

  • [From a previous meeting:] There is a problem with the metrics server, so no current data is available
  • See Basics page for the usual reminders.


open tracking (0) tracking requests (0) targeted (0) fixed (6)

 If you want Firefox 32.0 to take another crack at importing your passwords,
  1. In about:config, right-click signon.importedFromSqlite and choose Reset.
  2. Type about:support into the address bar and press Enter.
  3. Click the Show Folder button.
  4. Exit Firefox.
  5. Delete the logins.json file from the profile folder.
     This assumes you didn't save or modify any passwords in Firefox 32.0. If you did, not only will they all be lost, but the key3.db decryption key won't match the old signons.sqlite database from Firefox 31.0.
 There's a neat Password Exporter add-on:
 Install it, then you get an option to import/export your passwords on the Tools>Options>Security tab.
 Export Passwords file which is automatically dated to .xml or .csv.
 Then install 32.0 or greater.
 You can then simply import all your passwords effortlessly.


  • Stalled. Needs a kick.
    • bug 937809 Add DuckDuckGo to the default search engines list. a=Callek land this ASAP.
    • bug 815954 Click-to-Play: Port bug 812562 (click-to-play blocklisted plugins: reshow urlbar notification as with normal click-to-play).
    • bug 476108 GetShortPathNameW fails under some NTFS junctions [patchlove].
  • Current breakages:
    • bug 998807 Sync account creation or device pairing fails with exception in BrowserIDManager needs an owner
    • bug 995737 adapt seamonkey for the ab remote content policy change; use permission manager instead of address book property.
  • Mozilla-central bugs that affect us:
    • Our front end Sync UI needs to be updated as the old backend is going away in Gecko/Firefox 31. See: New Firefox Sync has landed in Firefox Nightly. Tracked in:
      • bug 998807 Sync account creation or device pairing fails with exception in BrowserIDManager.
      • bug 1003434 Add support for about:sync-progress.
    • A lot of these bugs are due to mozilla-central switching from synchronous APIs to Asynchronous APIs.
    • bug 566746 (asyncFormHistory) Form history should use asynchronous storage API. Tracked in:
      • bug 912031 Use Asynchronous FormHistory.jsm in place of nsIFormHistory2 in Suite.
    • bug 769764 move proxy resolution to separate thread and remove sync api. Tracked in:
      • MailNews bug 791645 Rewrite calls to synchronous nsIProtocolProxyService::DeprecatedBlockingResolve with Async code before DeprecatedBlockingResolve disappears as well.
    • bug 793634 Force builds to be compatible with gtk 2.18/glib 2.22. Tracked in:
      • bug 795354 Migrate SeaMonkey Linux builders to CentOS 6.
    • bug 846635 Use asynchronous getCharsetForURI in getShortcutOrURI. bug 834543 Add asynchronous version of setCharsetForURI and getCharsetForURI. Tracked in:
      • bug 896947 Use asynchronous version of setCharsetForURI and getCharsetForURI in getShortcutOrURI and other places.
    • bug 825588 Asynchronous JavaScript API for downloads and bug 851471 Decommission nsIDownloadManager. Tracked in:
      • bug 888915 Move SeaMonkey to the new JavaScript API for downloads when nsIDownloadManager is decommissioned.

Feature List, Planning

Bug statistics for the last two (full) weeks: 36 new, 3 fixed, 4 triaged.

  • Low triaging effort.
  • IanN thinks it would be useful to remind people on the newsgroups / forums that they can contribute by triaging. Tonymec will post a reminder to newsgroups / forums

Open reviews/flags: 38 review 6 super-review 1 ui-review 4 feedback

  • See Feature List page for major wanted/needed features.
  • TODO: We will need to update our Sync UI code due to the new Sync API. Also we need to check if we are allowed to create FX accounts from our UI Since the new Sync accounts are FX accounts.[IanN] I'm sure I saw a question about FX accounts and branding.

Roundtable - Personal Status Updates

Status Updates from developers - what are you working on, what's the progress, any other comments? (feel free to add yourself to the list if your name is missing and you have interesting status).





  • Usual testing, reviewing and commenting.
  • Fixed
  • Fixed for c-c:
    • bug 882968 Clean up and move DEFINES and friends to in comm-central
    • bug 1055867 Move RCFLAGS and RCINCLUDE to and hardcode manifest name
  • Fixed for m-c:
  • Fixed for m-i:
  • Pending check in:
    • bug 1039003 Port |bug 633773 Use Google's HTTPS search by default|, |bug 958883 Use HTTPS for Yahoo searches| and search plugin parts of |bug 959576 Create a component to get the list of priority domains| to Thunderbird
  • Checked in pending review:
  • Waiting for feedback/review:
  • Fixing review comments before checkin:
    • bug 757230 When using add button for permissions in Data Manager set a displayHost
    • bug 798147 Switch to correct pref pane if pref window already open
  • Working on:
    • bug 1060897 Static-link the CRT into Instantbird executable (/im/app/ Port bug 1023941 Part 1
    • bug 1051642 Allow for flat chrome format when packaging extensions
    • bug 943335 [TB] Update icons used in searchplugins (Yahoo, eBay, Wikipedia, Amazon, Bing, Twitter)
    • Various SM Council documents.
    • bug 606683 Allow customization of toolbar in Composer and MailNews Composition
    • bug 639690 [META] Re-arrange code between editor and editorOverlay
    • bug 773979 [META] Switch to new drag and drop api in SeaMonkey
    • bug 657234 Move pasteQuote and pasteNoFormatting into contentAreaContextOverlay
    • File/Folder selection in windows.
  • To Do:
    • bug 639395 Get cmd_fontSize to reflect current state of selected content / content at caret.
    • Prefs-in-a-tab.
    • Create FAQ for Friends of the Fish Tank.
    • Help get composer standalone builds working with --enable-tests.







Checked in to comm-central:

  • bug 986935 Dispatch restoration notifications asynchronously.
  • bug 1005336 Make sync runnable helpers more threadsafe.
  • bug 1060047 Use Plugin Host to enumerate plugins.

Checked in to mozilla-central:

  • bug 1054289 Setting document.hash while the page loads doesn't work.

Checked in to comm-release:

Needs checkin:

  • bug 870556 Try to improve performance of the IMAP download queue.

Waiting for review:

  • bug 1061990 Cache size does not update after clearing cache.

Still waiting for review:



Needs checkin (waiting for greener tree):

  • bug 1035171 Switching tabs triggers onLocationChange with LOCATION_CHANGE_SAME_DOCUMENT flag.
  • bug 1039933 While composing mail, there exists an empty line in attachment context menu when right clicked on the attachment area
  • bug 1040771 Allow about: pages to opt in to IndexedDB optionally specifying a desired origin.
  • bug 1041327 Record submission event for plugin crashes [notifications] includes bug 1024672.


  • bug 1053166 Replace openResultPopuup typo in autocomplete.xml by openPopup.

Working on:


Looking into:

  • bug 1060852 Expose privacy.trackingprotection.enabled in Privacy preferences and account for removal of Do-Not-Track options.

Needs testing:

  • bug 1032302 8BITMIME keyword ignored in EHLO greeting, BODY=8BITMIME absent in MAIL request for 8-bit transfers. (MailNews)


  • Bug triage and commenting for SeaMonkey and Thunderbird.
  • End-user information and discussion on MozillaZine.



Waiting for review:

  • bug 333910 nsITheme for menu/scrollbox arrows (Widget: Cocoa).
  • bug 973644 Port bug 967970 - Set NSDisablePersistence to prevent disk leaks.


Any other business?