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SeaMonkey Meeting Details

  • Time: Sunday 31 October, 2021, 15:00 UTC
    • (11am Eastern, 3pm UK, 4pm Central Europe, 11pm Hong Kong)
    • due to the end of the European Summer Time, we are moving the UTC time back by an hour
    • this is a switch from maintaining the same UTC time, as decided in the previous meeting
  • Location: #seamonkey IRC channel on libera chat channel.
  • Further Read: Basics
  • Participants (in order of appearance): IanN WG9s njsg rsx11m WaltS48 tomman


  • Who's taking minutes? -> frg
  • Nominees for Friends of the Fish Tank:
    • ewong and WG9s for working on infra and the crashreporter submits

Action Items

(who needs to do what that hasn't been recorded in a bug) We should assign people to the open items.



  • After the freenode self destruct change the website to libera chat.
    • bug 1716547 added the initial switch to but needs a bit of finetuning.
      • frg will see that he finds some time to do further updates here. Not there yet.
    • bug 1716544 is used for possible changes to cZ.
    • freenode switched to SASL only and seems to be further sliding into irrelevance.
  • A logbot is available at [1] but currently uses a self signed certificate.
    • We will add it later to the support site section.
    • WG9s is also working on a log site.
  • KaiRo has sent all available svg and SeaMonkey image data to IanN and frg.
    • We need to find a permanent place for them to make them available at least to the core developers outside of the source tree.
  • The project areas on the website need further updates to reflect the current responsibilities after some long time developers and maintainers left the project. bug 1356106 has already been filed.
  • We want to create a gitlab patch/fixes repo for classic XUL extensions.
    • IanN is looking into it.


Status of the SeaMonkey Infrastructure

  • Our infrastructure is using Azure.
    • ewong has been looking at Kallithea, RhodeCode and other similar tools which are needed later to automate source code management for non mozilla repos (tools, website and others).
      • Also evaluation of Ansible and Terraform going together with it is done.
    • Jenkins is being set up on the builders.
      • ewong is making progress setting up automated build jobs using it. This will still take some time.
    • Cloning the mozilla- repos is problematic. They are huge and the process is slow.
      • Incremental updates need to be done whenever possible later.
  • Please see Infrastructure Status
  • IanN has started updated the in-tree config files in bug 1687385
  • Mozilla switched Windows builds to cross compile on Linux.
    • This would need backports but is not 100% native (needs Wine). So currently no plans to do this for SeaMonkey.
    • Discussion for later when setting up jenkins. Even buildbot had some version specific files outside the tree.
  • Some Capacity planning to find the best price/performance ratio is carried out.
    • Other than azure hosting options because of price are also evaluated.
    • ewong started to look at Azure CDN as a download server.
  • We need a breakpad server for submitting crash reports. Thunderbird is also also affected and must set up their own server.
    • The date we need to switch has been postponed by Mozilla. We will only be able to use the Mozilla crash-stats till October 31th 2021.
    • ewong set up an intial crash-stats server and is testing it.
    • We expect to switch to it for the 2.53.10b1 release.
    • WG9s did switch the 2.53.10b1 pre builds already to the new server.
      • We plan to provide symbols for the b1 pre builds too so.
      • There are still several issues open which are being in the process of being fixed.
  • The WGS9s servers are working fine and unofficial builds are being released.
  • We are looking at hg heptapod to mirror some of code.
    • If we do this then mirroring between gitlab and heptapod needs to be figured out.
    • One candidate would be the website code currently mirrored manually.
    • Mercurial and Tortoise Hg are now hosted there after bitbucket dropped hg and removed all repos.
    • IanN is in contact with the heptapod staff and we are working out an initial setup.
    • Our mercurial queues are becoming bigger with every day and we would like at least set up a 2.53 repo to make patches permanent.
  • frg proposes to end 32 bit release support in 2021. Main reason is that modern websites are memory hungry and the 32 bit only architecture cause more and more oom crashes and subsequent complaints. Mozilla recently stopped testing Linux x86 releases too.
    • No consensus reached about it yet.
  • To reduce the use of different compilers we are looking into compiling future 2.53 Windows releases with clang 11 or later.
    • Currently CentOS 7 can not use the mozilla provided compilers because of a downlevel libstd.
  • gcc 11 support is probably broken because of gcc header changes. It will be fixed as time permits.
  • VS2022 RC (currently RC 3) is supported for 2.53.10b1 pre and planned later for 2.57 too.
    • The release date for VS2022 GA has been set to November 8th.
    • The Windows build server will not be switched to it initially.
  • The latest Windows 10 toolkit 10.0.20348 causes a compile error with the mapi.h header.
    • Recommended version is still 10.0.19041.
    • The Windows 11 toolkit 10.0.22000.194 can also be used. The MAPI header was fixed by Microsoft in it.
  • Preliminary aarch64 support for Linux has been added to 2.53.x and 2.57
    • Native arm support for macOS and Windows is looked into for a later date.
  • CentOS 7 reaches EOL in 2024.
    • No immediate plans to upgrade the Linux builder.
    • We prefer a rpm based distribution.
    • frg is experimenting with Rocky linux 8 locally.
  • Server 2012 R2 might need to be upgraded for VS2022 or later build tools.
    • EOL for 2012 R2 is early 2023.
    • frg tested building with Server 2016 to 2022 so we can do this when needed.

Fixed Infrastructure Stuff Since Last Meeting

  • Updated Windows builder to VS2019 16.11.5, rust 1.55 and latest bootstrapped tools.
    • mach boostrap now installs clang 13. clang 11 is still retained for the 2.53 builds.

Status of the SeaMonkey Source Tree

  • Useful Firefox Release Schedule link: Releases Scheduling
    • Last Merges: October 4th, 2021
    • Next Merges: November 1st, 2021 (4-week rhythm)
    • SeaMonkey is now at version 2.93a1. Gecko is at version 96 after the merge.
  • [comm-central]:
    • Windows, macOS and Linux builds.
    • Do not try to use the comm-central release.
    • The installer still works...
    • comm-central builds will no longer be published on the unofficial site.
    • bug 1611647 was filed for SeaMonkey to do the rename from xul to xhtml files and references.
    • See bug 1452448 for current comm-central issues. This is not up to date.
    • Thunderbird plans to check in their source as a branch in mozilla-central and drop the suite code.
      • We are evaluating options. Best would be to still have the source code in together with Thunderbird otherwise we would need to merge mozilla and Thunderbird changes into a new repo.
      • A unified repo will be slow and cumbersome to handle in any case.
    • Various non SeaMonkey/comm-central specific problems now seem to pop up using mach bootstrap. One wonders how this is tested and got r+ lately...
      • Builds now needs nsis 3.07 under Windows. Bootstrap fails to install it.
      • Builds need "ac_add_options --without-wasm-sandboxed-libraries" in the mozconfig for all OS. Boostrap fails to install a wasi-sysroot. Information how to set this up is nowhere to be found.
  • [comm-esr60]:
    • The 2.57 builds are based on the last ESR60 changesets.
    • The hg repo is closed. Future patches will be checked into our gitlab 2.57 repos.
      • The gitlab repos have been set up but will remain private until the first alpha build is released.
    • An unofficial 2.57 is available from WG9's website. We accept filing bugs against it.
    • For building you need to apply the patches from Bills 2.57 website.
    • For building with webrender enabled (unsupported and not working) or stylo (default) please stay at Rust 1.37 for now.
    • Do not expect to use the 2.57 release yet other than for testing.
    • Sidebar and Help are broken because of XUL template removals. See bug 1584728.
    • Please file bugs only if you know a specific problem is new and needs to be fixed. In any case check the existing bug reports to not generate bug noise.
    • Despite having a newer codebase 2.57 is behind 2.53 and central right now and needs to be synced with 2.53 backports and patches again.
      • frg started with synching but is swamped with other things.
    • See bug 1433370 for current 2.57 issues.
  • [comm-release56]:
    • The 2.53.x builds are based on the last 56 release changesets in comm-release and mozilla-release.
      • An updated unofficial 2.53.x is available from WG9's website. We accept filing bugs against it.
    • For building please apply the patches from Bills website to the noted comm-release and mozilla-release changeset.
      • If you want to build the latest release without pending fixes you can also check out from gitlab.
      • stylo and webrender building is currently broken but disabled by default.
      • Rust from 1.47 up to 1.55.0 is supported.
    • Rust 1.56.0 and up break building again by no longer accepting some previously perfectly fine language constructs.
      • It will be fixed for 2.53.11b1 pre or a later version as time permits.
    • See bug 1688498 for important current 2.53 issues and enhancement requests.

Release Train

SeaMonkey 2.53.x

open tracking (0) tracking requests (79) targeted (1) fixed (498)

  • SeaMonkey 2.53.x originally based on Gecko 56 is in our gitlab comm-release repo.
  • SeaMonkey 2.53.10 final will be released soon.
  • SeaMonkey 2.53.10 Beta 1 was released October 29th, 2021.
    • The release was tracked in bug 1727000.
    • The release notes and website updates were tracked in bug 1737434.
    • Release was a bit delayed. Some version related stuff needed still to be finalized.
    • Crash reporting has been switched to our own server and is still in test. Public viewing of crash reports is planned for a later date.
    • Security fixes which apply up to ESR78.15 were already applied to the b1 pre version.
    • Backporting bug 1228841 did break the download them all (DTA) and maybe other old add-ons. DTA needs to be fixed by the author or a third party.
      • We still try to not break classic add-ons but need to get parser fixes for later features in and the obsolete stuff is really in the way sometimes.
    • Input field date works now and thanks to njsg has been styled for the Modern theme too. It will be enabled for the beta release.
      • This needed changes in the tab browser by adding a browser stack in bug 1730392. Please test.
      • Input field time can be enabled with setting dom.forms.datetime.timepicker to true. Still disabled in latest Firefox so use it only for testing.
    • Because of bad user agent sniffing we updated the base UA version from Gecko 60 to 68.
      • Further enhancements are planned for a later release in bug 1737436.
      • We want to implement overrides for bad web sites like Waterfox does using a json file containing the UA replacements.
  • SeaMonkey 2.53.11 Beta 1 will be released after 2.53.10 final. No ETA yet
  • Some languages might need new or more translators. See help wanted for translating.
  • frg proposes to skip beta releases because we get no or minimal feedback only and this delays delivering security fixes among other things.
    • No consensus reached about it yet so we will continue with the current release Beta/GA cycle.
  • NSS 3.49 and up drop the dbm compatibility module. This has been restored for 2.53.2. Later we might do a hard block upgrading from an older release.
    • Distributions using the system nss might need to adjust compile settings for this.
  • The following bugs are not yet fixed in 2.53.x:
    • bug 1409458 "Privacy Issue: Replying to or forwarding an HTML e-mail with external content".
    • bug 1684651 SeaMonkey under later macOS versions does not repaint the scrollbar correctly on all sites.
  • A meta bug bug 1584728 tracks the rdf removal from SeaMonkey.
    • Old 2.53.x bugs are still marked as not fixed in bugzilla. We will mark them as fixed as time permits.
  • Compiler support is up to date.
    • clang 5 to 13, gcc 6.3.1, gcc 7.1 to 9 can be used to build 2.53.10b1+ on Linux or clang only for macOS. Support for gcc 5.x and 4.x has been removed.
    • clang 7 to 13, VS2017 15.9.13+, VS2019 and VS2022 are supported under Windows x64. Support for VS2015 and earlier VS2017 versions has been removed.
    • VS2019 up to 16.6.5 can be used for Windows x86 but causes crashes and is therefore no longer recommended.
    • Support for gcc 6.x and clang 5 and 6 will be removed soon. For backporting the new regexp parser full c++17 support is needed.
    • Mozilla skipped clang 10 support because of unspecified problems and did go straight to clang 11 from 9. We will not support clang 10 either. It can be used but is unsupported by us. gcc 9 and up did not get much/any testing so ymmv.
    • 2.53.x fixes are available from the wg9s website.
  • WebExtension dictionary support is being worked on but no ETA.
  • The language packs will be switched to the WebExtensions format for better comaptibility with later release and build stuff synchronization.
  • Please use the new Calendar component for reporting and tracking respective bugs!
  • We are looking into adding support for Custom Elements and Shadow DOM in a later release. No ETA yet. This is or will also be supported in 2.57.
    • Google owned/based websites like youtube are likely to break because of this in the near future. There are already reports of broken functionality on youtube.
  • Some users report heavy memory usage compared to 2.49.5 but no specific problem or common cause has been found yet.
    • Do not add bugs without providing some information how to reproduce any memory issues. Bugs with only general statements like "it hangs after 3 days" or "SeaMonkey is bloated" will be closed immediately in the future.
  • Release notes are provided for reading them before reporting or discussing problems...

SeaMonkey 2.57

open tracking (1) tracking requests (209) targeted (0) fixed (273)

  • SeaMonkey 2.57 originally based on Gecko 60 in comm-esr60.
  • SeaMonkey 2.57 is being developed together with 2.53 and then released as soon as possible.
    • Because of not enough developers this is a slow go and we will distribute interim 2.53 versions.
  • 2.57 will be build from a new 2.57 gitlab repo based on the comm-esr60 repo.
    • The sources are currently marked private in our gitlab project repos.
    • An alpha 1 source is being prepared.
    • The comm-esr60 repos are closed. All fixes not in them are available from wg9s website until the gitlab repo is ready.
    • frg maintains the patches for 2.57 on gitlab in a private repo. As with 2.53 anyone who wants access can send him an email but Bills repo bundle is usually up to date.
  • Thanks to IanN mail and news are now usable in 2.57. There are still problems open for this.
  • Ad and Script Blocker support needs WebExtension support in SeaMonkey 2.57.
    • Like 2.53 l10n needs to be hand rolled. The strings from 2.53 and comm-central will be used as a base.
    • To test l10n building 2.57 is now available in German on wg9s website.
    • When doing patches please make sure to change the l10n labels when the content changes.
    • cZ, debugQA and the Lightning extension are included with 2.57.
    • DOMi has been removed from 2.57.
  • Thunderbird did switch to WebExtension dictionaries.
  • Compiling 2.57 with rust >= 1.33 needs fixes which are only in the unofficial patches queues.
    • Webrender and stylo do not compile with rust 1.38 and up.
    • We are currently bringing up rust compiler support but struggle with some issues. Only 1.37 is currently supported when compiling stylo and webrender.
  • Lighting is fully integrated into TB 78. We plan to port this to 2.57.

General SeaMonkey release issues

  • General SeaMonkey release issues.
    • General build fixes are now backported to 2.53.and 2.57.
    • Licensing issues and maybe adding additional licenses need to be discussed. Code from bug 1559900 to do this has been included in 2.53 and 2.57.
    • A meta bug for gtk3 compatibility has been created for 2.49.1 and up bug 1367257.
    • When updates are working again the following bugs need to be looked into:
      • bug 1274722 Add %SYSTEM_CAPABILITIES% to the SeaMonkey app.update.url preference.
      • bug 1271761 Add CPU features/detection to update URL.
    • Discussions if we should match minor version numbers with Firefox are still underway. This would need a coordinated change for either c-c or all trees. All minor versions would be changed and the versions would need to be made available in bugzilla. Lightning version calculation needs to be changed. This will be done at a later date and not for 2.49 ESR.
    • In bug 1674946 it is proposed that setting security.enterprise_roots.enabled to true unconditionally should be done to avoid problems with thrid party firewalls and antivirus programs.
      • The general opinion is that the setting should be exposed in the preferences but not make the default.

Extensions Tracking

  • Thunderbird did discontinue classic add-ons with the ESR78 based release.
    • Mozilla removed the last traces of classic add-ons from the Gecko source code. They can no longer be installed.
    • Enigmail was discontinued for Thunderbird and OpenPGP is being integrated.
      • The OpenPGP integration was tracked in bug 22687. and is now shipped with the current TB 78.
  • cZ was integrated into SeaMonkey in bug 1551033.
    • The language pack for cZ was removed for 2.53.8 and a translated cZ is included. SeaMonkey language packs will now support cZ too and translate it.
    • The current cZ source code was checked in without history into comm-central. History is available in our 2.53 and 2.57 repos and current patch queues.
    • cZ is no longer an extension in 2.57 and fully integrated.
    • Starting with 2.53.9 cZ will be available in more languages.
    • cZ has gotten many enhancements in 2.53.9b1 and 2.53.10b1. Read the release notes.
      • Better SASL support and enhancements for storing the passwords are in 2.53.10b1.
  • DOMi was integrated into SeaMonkey 2.53 only in bug 1700003.
    • The full history is retained in our gitlab-master branch. The unofficial patch queue only includes the latest snapshot.
    • Initial clean-ups were done in bug 1701416.
    • DOMi has been dropped fror 2.57 and up. See bug 1273222.
  • The debugQA extension will be later localized.
  • WebExtension support in SeaMonkey is tracked in bug 1320556. As of now working on this has not started.
    • This would be needed for a ESR60 based SeaMonkey 2.57.
    • Some backports for adding Web extension dictionaries to 2.53 have been done but more is needed.
  • Evaluation if some extension functionality should be incorporated will need to be done for the 2.57 release.
    • Lightning is still working in 2.57.
    • NoScript, Adblock Plus and uBlock are broken in SeaMonkey 2.54+
    • SeaTab X2 works in 2.57.
    • debugQA works in 2.57.
  • NoScript Classic 5.x is still being updated. Currently 5.1.9.
  • uBlock Origin is still being updated. The latest legacy version is currently
  • Session Manager is still being updated. Latest version is and supports SeaMonkey 2.53.x.
  • github-wc-polyfill can be used for accessing github and gitlab. Both need Custom Elements support right now. Latest version is 1.2.7.
  • IanN created an SM version of the QuickText add-on.
  • The SeaMonkey and Thunderbird add-ons are now hosted on [2].
    • The old add-ons website api has been removed in bug 1402064 for Gecko 60 and up. We might need to do some further porting here to smoothly integrate installation from the add-ons site.
    • The website has been updated and points to [3].
  • We will evalute the possibility of shipping pdf.js with SeaMonkey in a future release. frg will look into it when he finds some time.
  • Mozilla removed all classic add-ons from AMO. Rainer_Bielefeld filed bug 1517828 to see if missing add-ons can be re-added. The add-on converter also no longer works because of this.
    • Suggestion is to use a third party archive ca-archive and xpi.
  • Flash support ended in January 2021.
    • Flash support is no longer available in 2.53.7b1 and up.
      • Firefox shows a placeholder for Flash content. We just disable the plugin without doing so.
    • Safari 14.0.1 removed support for it.
    • Firefox removed support in Firefox 85.
    • Microsoft killed it too.
    • SeaMonkey specific NPAPI and Flash removal is tracked in bug 1688415.
    • Progress in removing it from the 2.53 source is a bit slow because we do not want to drop PPAPI support so just can't remove all plugin code unconditionally.
  • The Download Them All extension (3.0.9) will currently not work with SeaMonkey 2.53.10b1 pre (see release train).
    • Some user started to update it for the standard try/catch syntax and we hope it will be fixed when releasing the official beta.


  • See Basics page for the usual reminders.
  • Sync is no longer working. The goal for 2.53 and 2.57 is to restore sync 1.1 and set up a sync 1.1 server.
    • Sync 1.1 has been removed from the mozilla source tree. If we want Sync 1.1 to work we need to fork it.
      • Pro: We control our own sync server and are not left at the mercies of Mozilla the next time they change their sync system.
      • Pro: Our users don't need an Fx Account.
      • Con: Can't sync with Firefox (unless someone writes a Sync 1.1 client for Firefox).
    • The sync ui has been disabled in 2.57+ in bug 1432273.
    • Long term we need someone to work on porting sync 1.5 over to replace legacy sync code after 2.57. See: New Firefox Sync has landed in Firefox Nightly. Tracked in:
      • bug 998807 Sync account creation or device pairing fails with exception in BrowserIDManager.
      • bug 1003434 Add support for about:sync-progress.
  • frg suggests doing an about:credits page for SeaMonkey contributors. This should link to a new list of people on the SeaMonkey project page.
    • IanN suggests about:smcredits.
    • The mozilla credits page still must be linked because there are many SeaMonkey contributors in it and Gecko is also still the foundation we did and are building on.
  • Tests are broken. Priority for new features or ports according to IanN is to get the code working.

frg suggests splitting off the tests to separate bugs for tracking and hopefully fixing in the future. With the current dev resources at hand he is not very hopeful about fixing the tests anytime soon.

  • We might need new SeaMonkey bugzilla component for tracking website problems with our product.
    • Non working websites should be verified against a genuine Firefox 56 and 60 before filing a bug.
      • If a website does not work in Firefox 60 it is either fundamentally broken or needs some later not yet implemented features.
      • If a website works in both 56 and 60 it is usually only problem with incorrect user agent sniffing. Bug should either be closed or moved to the tech evangelism component then if the triager does not think it is a problem with SeaMonkey implementation.
    • In any case probles with specific websites only should be discussed in the support groups first.
  • Stalled. Needs a kick:
    • bug 815954 Click-to-Play: Port bug 812562 (click-to-play blocklisted plugins: reshow urlbar notification as with normal click-to-play).
    • bug 476108 GetShortPathNameW fails under some NTFS junctions [patchlove].
  • Apple M1 and later arm support needs to being looked into for a later release.
  • The project website is not localized. Only a basic German version is available which was created as a test some time ago. Support for other languages needs tool support and or integration with something like Poonton.
  • MDN stopped showing archived content on July 14h 2021. We might need to adjust links on the website and in SeaMonkey.
  • Current breakages:

Feature List, Planning

Bug statistics for the last two (full) weeks: — new, — fixed, — triaged.

  • generally low activity on trunk, focus on branches towards releases

Open reviews/flags: 24 review 3 super-review 1 ui-review 23 feedback

  • See Feature List page for major wanted/needed features.
  • TODO:
    • Encrypted Media Extensions / Digital Rights Management
      • bug 1127784 added a preference and UI to enable/disable playback of Encrypted Media Extensions, with UI seen in non-release builds only
      • More work appears to be needed to download necessary 3rd-party Content Decryption Modules, some UI can probably be ported from Firefox
  • Fundamental core features Firefox/Mozilla plans or did remove:
    • bug 1446341 The XUL "tree" widget will be removed from mozilla-central
      • Major bummer, will affect MailNews and other windows, Core bug 1446335
    • bug 1444685 XUL overlays are gone (SeaMonkey)
    • bug 1222546 Product plan: remove support for heavyweight themes
      • This has been officially removed with Firefox 57. With Firefox 61 theme support has been removed from the source. The Modern theme no longer works in SeaMonkey.
    • bug 1397874 tracks the xbl bindings removal. Only bindings used in Firefox will be kept for now until they are replaced with who-knows-what.
      • Overlays are now also gradually being removed. Mozilla has converted tabbrowser.xml to tabbrowser.js. Needs to be done for SeaMonkey in a later release too.
  • The website and wiki are outdated. InvisibleSmiley no longer maintains the website. The website was updated but it still needs work. Volunteers welcome.
  • frg suggested asking for donations in a future release. Probably during startup or more prominently on the website.
  • frg suggested a tabbrowser.xml overhaul because it's becoming harder to backport fixes from Firefox.
    • IanN suggests doing small patches which are easier to review.
  • There are reports that the PayPal donation on the website doesn't work for USD. It seems the amount is converted to Euro (probably correct if it is a German account).
  • Images should be vectorized and be svg if possible for future updates and HiDPI compatibility.
  • bug 1414390 needs to be ported. intl.locale.requested locale list needs to replace general.useragent.locale. Thunderbird did this in bug 1423532.
  • More and more websites do poor browser sniffing or pretend to require a later browser version.
    • We need to evaluate if a user agent switcher should be incorporated into SeaMonkey.
    • For some google services like maps you need to set a plain Firefox useragent to avoid problems.
  • bug 1463738 Bookmarks descriptions are taken out of Gecko 62.
  • Live bookmarks and rss support is taken out of Gecko 63 in bug 1477667. bug 1477670 might affect us too.
  • The optional chaining operator {Bug|1566143}} and the Nullish Coalescing operator {Bug|1566141}} need to be backported because websites tend to break now because of missing support in 2.53 and 2.57.
    • Help welcome but there is also the option to do nothing but complain in the support groups about website breakage...

Roundtable - Personal Status Updates

  • IanN generally will handle more complex review requests. frg, rsx11m, stefanh and ewong can also do reviews in their areas of expertise. For bigger changes and branch approvals outside of the build system IanN needs to be involved.
  • a+ from trusted regular patch authors/reviewers for ESR60 / 2.57 is implied as long as it only affects the suite directory. This will change back to a general needed a+ when the tree becomes more stable and will be announced then. If in doubt ask for approval.

Status Updates from developers - what are you working on, what's the progress, any other comments? (feel free to add yourself to the list if your name is missing and you have interesting status).



Most work for SeaMonkey in the last two weeks was for getting 2.53.10b1 out the door including l10n merges.

Waiting for review:

  • bug 1274798 Seamonkey integration in Gnome3. Old bug/patch which needs verification from someone more familiar with Linux.

Waiting for esr60 a+:

  • none

Waiting for feedback:

  • bug 1410646 Fix SM "log into/onto" and related instances.

Checkin ready:

  • none


  • Bugs for 2.53.11b1 and up from IanN.

Working on:

  • many things.
  • Bringing ICU and tzdata up to the current level for 2.53. Some progress with alignment of the intl code.
  • RDF removal with IanN for 2.53 and up. Full removal for 2.53 will only happen if it does not break critical or too many add-ons. 2.57 has mail now thanks to IanN.
  • Backporting ESR 60 and beyond fixes to 2.53. At 60.8 now but many later security backports up to ESR 78.15 are in.
  • bug 521861 After creating news account through clicking news URL Account Wizard is broken. jorgk found some issues in the patch which I need to fix first but buc came up with an alternate patch.
  • Port of bug 1100103 Add a remove button to every To/CC/BCC address in Composer. No bug yet. Initial version in 2.53. Needs better styling.
  • Syncing 2.53 with Waterfox mozilla patches.

Not working on:

  • Fixing comm-central. Not worth it currently. Only see that it builds.

Shelved for later:

  • bug 1296850 Show standard loading indicator images in tab when busy or progress attribute are set. Asked someone who wants to help out to look at the icons. Got the icons but have no time at the moment.
  • bug 1392929 Port Bug 886907 [Remove old synchronous contentPrefService] to SeaMonkey.
  • Followups for bug 1379369 to TriggeringPrincipals and UserContextIDs in more functions. IanN already fixed a bunch of stuff.
  • bug 1370314 SeaMonkey 06/2017 installer rollup. Probably not much more right now. Took some parts to other bugs. and will see what is left when 2.57 is ready.


  • Life outside SeaMonkey got in the way especially last week so not much done other than getting 2.53.10b1 out here and doing some support.


Checked in for website:

  • bug 1737434 Update SeaMonkey website for 2.53.10 beta 1 release

Checked in for 2.53.10+:

Waiting for checkin:

Waiting for review:

  • bug 1645892 Port changes to SSLStatus interfaces to SeaMonkey
  • bug 1646495 Stop using nsIDocShell::forcedCharset in SeaMonkey
  • bug 1687385 Update SeaMonkey mozconfigs
  • bug 1735053 Rearrange Message Filter Dialog to make room for new features
  • bug 1735055 Use Insert key as shortcut to create new message filters
  • bug 1735056 Rename some variables used in SeaMonkey's FilterListDialog to match Thunderbird's
  • bug 1735057 Implement Copy to New message filter functionality
  • bug 1735059 Add move to top / bottom buttons to message filters
  • bug 1735061 Add preference to not prompt for message filter deletion
  • bug 1736425 Clean up folder handling in FilterListDialog
  • bug 1736443 Add connect button to cZ Networks Editor
  • bug 1737450 Add refresh function to Filter list dialog so that it can be updated when already open and new filters are added externally

Working on:

  • bug 1633729 Update about:buildconfig to display comm as well as mozilla source information - comm-central part
  • bug 1616034 Update SessionStore code for SeaMonkey
  • bug 1612386 Don't always update lastRelatedTab information when browser.tabs.insertAllTabsAfterCurrent is true
  • bug 1577372 Working copy functionality was removed from page info window
  • bug 1573595 [meta]Update pageInfo files
  • bug 1578061 [meta]Update SeaMonkey's context menu
  • bug 1581176 [meta]Update SeaMonkey's certificate / net error handling UI
  • bug 1579640 Fix access key clashes in prefs
  • bug 657604 Remove the RDF global object. (Port bug 437869 to SeaMonkey.)
  • bug 1380613 sessionrestore will not restore anything if another tab is open
  • Backporting changes needed for build system

Back burner:


Rainer Bielefeld


Not really working on:

  • bug 1441016 Port bug 1414390 "Add intl.locale.requested locale list to replace general.useragent.locale" to SeaMonkey
  • bug 1437393 Font lists in preferences are no longer grouped by font type, port asynchronous handling like bug 1399206
  • bug 1318852 Make labels of cmd_properties action-oriented and context-sensitive, e.g. "Edit Contact", "Edit List", etc.
    • "real" fix




Any other business?

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