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Thunderbird notes 2015-11-03. NOON PT (Pacific). For meeting time, previous notes and call-in details see


  • rkent, Pegasus_RPG, aceman, mkmelin, Paenglab, wsmwk, berna, clokep, Jorg K , MakeMyDay, Fallen

Action items from last meetings

Friends of the tree

Current status and discussions

Critical Issues

Leave critical bugs here until confirmed fixed. If confirmed, then remove.


  • 38.3.1 bug 1211160 calendar is a workaround for 38.3.0 — Thunderbird Version 38.3 Buttons not working menu items // bug 1211291 - Folders are visible, but messages are not. (?related to bug 1211358 lightning chrome.manifest not updated in 38.3.0 ?)
  • nightly (3 bugs blocking builds, all are assigned) - bug 1195442 - Mac builds broken ~1 month on nightly
  • rkent is working on it - bug 1183490 - (dataloss) New emails do not adhere to sort by order received
    • Plan is to understand issues in converting completely to nextKey = ++lastKey for non-IMAP, then plan how much to implement for 38.3.0 A simple fix of the dataloss is probable. I have a try patch that does the nextKey = ++lastKey that works, now I need to think about patch for 38 (bug 1202105 needs to go to trunk and 38)
    • update 2015-10-20, patches have been posted but waiting for reviews for 2 weeks (aceman will look at those)

important (not top critical)

  • status TBD - bug 1182629 - update to 38.1.0 from 38.0.1 re-enables disabled Lightning
  • status TBD - bug 1176399 - Multiple master password when GMail OAuth2 is enabled
  • status ??? - bug 1176748 - Someone needs to add additional main thread proxies to the migration code (jorgk and m_kato have in previous years been the major drivers of fixes)
  • topcrash bug 1149287 is ** 31% of our crashes** - see below


  • Past
    • 38.0.1 nominally shipped 2015-06-12
    • 38.1.0 shipped 2015-07-10
    • 31.8.0 shipped 2015-07-17
    • 40.0beta shipped 2015-07-27 (skipping 39.0b)
    • 38.2.0 shipped 2015-08-14
    • 41.0b1 2015-09-08 build2. missed ~2015-08-10
    • 41.0b2 (with uplifts for 38.3.0)
    • 38.3.0 ~2015-09-25 (throttled on 2015-10-06)
    • 42.0b2 2015-10-13 (42.0b1 abandoned)
  • Upcoming


Past releases:

Upcoming releases:

Round Table

Jorg K (absent)

  • bug 1174452 - M-C editor problem, copy/paste - "white-space: pre;" - patch preposed in bug 1214377 - awaiting review.
  • bug 586587 - M-C drag and drop onto editor window - awaiting review.
  • C-C: Three bugs awaiting landing, incl. recently fixed bug 117236 - Export address book as UTF-8 or system charset.
  • bug 769604 - C-C font size toolbar button and change increase/decrease size function - awaiting review from Neil.


  • Discussion of Toronto meeting

Our common project is to consolidate and support TB Development and help TB become as autonomous as possible long term. TB Council has provided the p≡p Foundation with a list of critical needs to which p≡p is committed to provide financial and logistical support along with Mozilla Foundation. Since our meeting in Toronto, p≡p Foundation has already hired a C++ resource to address TB’s Component Maintenance issues and we are in the final stages of hiring a Continuous Integrations Engineer for TB. Furthermore, p≡p- via DigitalCourage - will help Thunderbird set-up the web-based donation system needed for further financial stability of TB in addition to the p≡p support.

  • Discussion of Software Freedom Law Center


  • Still working on the issue: bug 1045845
    • Got a review (r-) from mconley.
    • Put up a new version of the patch and waiting for review.
  • Was in Toronto w/ rkent/wswmk

Question Time

  • new account provisioner: Are there currently any providers other than Gandi? Would it be worth trying to find some more?

Support team


  • website moves to bedrock complete, or almost.
  • Note - meeting notes must be copied from etherpad to wiki before 5AM CET next day so that they will go public in the meeting notes blog.

Action Items

Help Wanted