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SeaMonkey Meeting Details


  • Who's taking minutes? -> Ratty
  • Nominees for Friends of the Fish Tank:

Action Items

(who needs to do what that hasn't been recorded in a bug) We should assign people to the open items.



  • has not been updated since November 2012, the last version listed is 2.14 (bug 956561); move blog to if possible Assigned: mcsmurf.
    • Mcsmurf says that it looks like we might be getting a blog on
    • KaiRo will do some DNS magic to get it mirrored at
    • Ratty managed to get Kerz's contact address but totally forgot to follow this up. FAIL.


Status of the SeaMonkey Buildbot Master and Tree

  • New breakage: bug 983536 libpango version >= 1.22.0 required on Linux.
  • bug 977676 SeaMonkey's puppet broken due to requirement of ffxbld ldap password.
  • Python has been updated on all buildboxen!
  • We are perma-orange on comm-central, comm-aurora and comm-beta due to problems with tests
    • Windows en-US builds are being successfully compiled but tests are not working due to a dependency on python 2.7.3.
    • bug 908090 ImportError: No module named json, on SeaMonkey Linux/Windows (all) test runs, due to (still) using Python 2.5. We do have python 2.7 installed but our build system is picking up python 2.5 instead.
      • ewong's patch is waiting for review. It was manually patched on the master; but, was reverted and the buildmaster was reconfigured and so the changes are gone. Need to have the patch pushed officially in order for this bug to be fixed.
    • pymake is failing with "invalid syntax" again because of an outdated Python.
    • Priority on fixing this and l10n repacks after 2.24 release.(No ETA yet)
    • bug 943740 is tracking the progress (or lack of one) in building trunk and aurora on Linux & Mac from the downloading user's POV. (Windows nightlies are still appearing on schedule — or were until a day or two ago.)
  • No langpacks since 29th August on trunk. Needs investigating.
    • Windows and Mac trunk langpacks directories have been removed on the FTP server, maybe for lack of recent XPIs (later than 2.20a1). Latest Linux langpacks are dated 29 August. Callek told Tonymec on IRC he has a hunch about why but more pressing things to do first.
    • In Bug 902876 Comment 12 Mcsmurf is waiting for feedback from the build team on how to proceed.
  • Buildmaster is up and running.
    • Callek is hand-approving requests for CLOSED TREE landings at the moment.
    • Due to the master having some mysql issues, Callek has put a halt on the mysql updates, which affects the tbpl. So nothing is showing in tbpl atm.
  • comm-* will be building out of mozilla-* (bug 648979 etc.). Jcrammer has mostly completed the coding. Next step is consultation with mozilla-central build peers on landing the patches and also getting implicit permission to add several new top level directories to mozilla-central.

Release Train

We managed to get two betas out in the last two weeks.

  • SeaMonkey 2.25 beta 2 was released on March 9.
  • SeaMonkey 2.25 beta 3 was released on March 14.
  • SeaMonkey 2.25 final is scheduled for March 19.
  • Useful Firefox Release Schedule link: Releases Scheduling

Extensions and Plugins Compatibility Tracking

2.x (Last, Current, Next)

  • [From a previous meeting:] There is a problem with the metrics server, so no current data is available
  • See Basics page for the usual reminders.


open tracking (0) tracking requests (1) targeted (1) fixed (9)


  • Current breakages:
  • Mozilla-central bugs that affect us:
    • Note: Please file bugs if you notice any landing on mozilla-central that might break us. Please don't depend on Ratty noticing such landings.
    • bug 805374 Remove Character Encoding menu entries that are not in the Encoding Standard. Tracked in:
      • bug 943732 Port the new Character Encoding menu to SeaMonkey.
    • Our front end Sync UI needs to be updated as the old backend is going away in Gecko/Firefox 31. See: New Firefox Sync has landed in Firefox Nightly.
    • A lot of these bugs are due to mozilla-central switching from synchronous APIs to Asynchronous APIs.
    • bug 831208 (asyncContentPrefsUse) Refactor asyncContentPrefs consumers to use the async API. Tracked in:
      • bug 909093 Update SeaMonkey to use nsIContentPrefService2. Mcsmurf and Neil@parkway are currently working on this.
    • bug 566746 (asyncFormHistory) Form history should use asynchronous storage API. Tracked in:
      • bug 912031 Use Asynchronous FormHistory.jsm in place of nsIFormHistory2 in Suite.
    • bug 769764 move proxy resolution to separate thread and remove sync api. Tracked in:
      • MailNews bug 791645 Rewrite calls to synchronous nsIProtocolProxyService::DeprecatedBlockingResolve with Async code before DeprecatedBlockingResolve disappears as well.
    • bug 793634 Force builds to be compatible with gtk 2.18/glib 2.22. Tracked in:
    • bug 795144 default --disable-gnomeui icon theme support
      • porting bug needed for the two changesets? Changes could be folded into bug 794772 above. *** IanN and Ewong are looking into this..
    • bug 627699 Port GTK2 to GTK3. Tracked in:
      • bug 882036 Port GTK2 to GTK3 - SeaMonkey Part.
      • A Red Hat person seems to be working on the GTK3 integration.
    • bug 846635 Use asynchronous getCharsetForURI in getShortcutOrURI. bug 834543 Add asynchronous version of setCharsetForURI and getCharsetForURI. Tracked in:
      • bug 896947 Use asynchronous version of setCharsetForURI and getCharsetForURI in getShortcutOrURI and other places.
    • bug 825588 Asynchronous JavaScript API for downloads and bug 851471 Decommission nsIDownloadManager. Tracked in:
      • bug 888915 Move SeaMonkey to the new JavaScript API for downloads when nsIDownloadManager is decommissioned.

Bugs: Low Hanging Fruit

Not necessarily Good First Bugs but minor fixes that shouldn't need advanced coding skills.

  • bug 795002 Improve detection of valid feed urls in messengerdnd.js (Port relevant bits of bug 737115).
  • bug 960566 Move inline scripts and styles into separate files for SeaMonkey privileged about: pages
  • bug 973299 Port bug 969247 Remove or replace DOM_VK_ENTER and NS_VK_ENTER
  • Port Firefox bug 726978 Remove useless NS_New(Native)LocalFile calls in nsBrowserApp.cpp
  • bug 978463 [Findbar] Command-E should set Find term to selected text (Port bug 326743)

Needs investigation/QA wanted?

  • bug 984133 comm-release build failure on during configure
  • bug 983689 preferences window too big for netbook
  • bug 981281 Ctrl + left/right arrow skips words with leading/trailing punctuation [Firefox not affected so must be something SM specific]

Feature List, Planning

Bug statistics for the last two (full) weeks: 19 new, 9 fixed, 11 triaged.

  • Low-Medium triaging effort.

Open reviews/flags: 23 review 6 super-review 1 ui-review 8 feedback

  • See Feature List page for major wanted/needed features.
  • New: We will need to update our Sync UI code due to the new Sync API. Also we need to check if we are allowed to create FX accounts from our UI Since the new Sync accounts are FX accounts.[IanN] I'm sure I saw a question about FX accounts and branding.

Modern Theme rework (Patrick Dempsey)

Ratty has been tracking the Modern theme rework by Patrick Dempsey. Here are his reports so far:

5th March:

I have completed large and small icons for the primary toolbar icons for Editor, Messenger/smime, and most of Messenger. Am currently working on the Addressbook set which will round out Messenger. From these it will be easy to generate new icons for Taskbar and the Addons Manager. I've also created a new set of icons for the Formatting Toolbar for Editor which is updated slightly to reflect changes in current versions of MS Word, as well as the new Editor icons. You can see what I have so far here:


I am trying to balance the good and the bad points of the original work in the hopes of arriving at something that is an improvement and not just a rote reproduction. At this point I feel like I have a pretty good grasp of the intentions and design guidelines of the original icon designer(s). Please let me know if you or anyone else has concerns about the direction I am going, or nits about the current state of the work.

10th March:

I now have the complete toolbar button set for Modern done in large and small icons sizes. I am now going to start building the secondary icons for each component. Hopefully by the next meeting I will have even more to show you!


17th March:

I've noticed that this bug about the taskbar globe icon keeps popping up:

bug 522023 Use a better globe icon in the taskbar

I've now got a decent-looking globe in both "Modern" and "Default" color schemes which can easily be re-purposed for the taskbar/Window menu (as well as used for the Addons Manager for Localization support): publish-sample.png

I can mock-up some sample taskbars if you'd like.

Attachment Reminders

Suyash Agarwal has started to port attachment reminders to SeaMonkey MailNews. bug 984016 Attachment Reminder: Help prevent forgetting inclusion of attachments (Port TB bug 244455)

Roundtable - Personal Status Updates

Status Updates from developers - what are you working on, what's the progress, any other comments? (feel free to add yourself to the list if your name is missing and you have interesting status).




  • Fixed:
  • Checkin-needed:(waiting for tree to be opened.)
    • bug 665708 - Gopher links show "Launch Application" in SeaMonkey 2.1
    • bug 904338 - Empty port line when create a Blogs & Newsfeeds account
    • bug 957895 - Bug 633937 added unnecessary three strings to Remove them.
    • bug 958128 - Jumplists stop updating when PC is idle
  • Review:
    • bug 840427 - Migrate SeaMonkey builders to using mock
    • bug 853720 - After bug 827446, SeaMonkey doesn't know mozcrash.
    • bug 908090 - ImportError: No module named json, on SeaMonkey Linux/Windows (all) test runs, due to (still) using Python 2.5
    • bug 922076 - Switch tests to using and manifests
    • bug 934492 - Adjust the languages preference pane to take into account Bug 910192 which removes intl.charset.default and deduces the fallback from the locale
    • bug 938673 - Add context menu to status bar padlock icon
    • bug 949884 - disable pulseaudio in SeaMonkey
    • bug 956007 - Remove front end for removed x-user-def font preferences
    • bug 967492 - Remove "Personas" from Help (Update text)
    • bug 970475 - Use unprefixed box-sizing internally
  • Working On:
    • bug 110904 - attach signature fails silently on bad paths
    • bug 507676 - Port |Bug 435804 - Remaining rdf cleanup for FilterListDialog| to SeaMonkey
    • bug 837649 - [Tracking Bug] Stop OSX 10.5 support for SeaMonkey project
    • bug 837650 - Stop support for OSX 10.5 in suite/ tree
    • bug 863747 - Add option to disable Location bar history
    • bug 918474 - Default Search dropdown doesn't get refreshed after adding new search engine
    • bug 928632 - When the birth year is empty, SeaMonkey puts 1900 and in English language


  • Usual testing, reviewing and commenting.
  • Fixed:
    • bug 971305 [en-GB] Remove Google as a content handler for feeds and add some new ones
    • bug 981444 Update en-GB for Gecko 29
  • Pending check in:
  • Checked in pending review:
  • Waiting for feedback/review:
  • Fixing review comments before checkin:
    • bug 757230 When using add button for permissions in Data Manager set a displayHost
    • bug 798147 Switch to correct pref pane if pref window already open
    • bug 778534 Use image instead of html:img in instant messaging
  • Working on:
    • bug 943335 [TB] Update icons used in searchplugins (Yahoo, eBay, Wikipedia, Amazon, Bing, Twitter)
    • Various SM Council documents.
    • bug 606683 Allow customization of toolbar in Composer and MailNews Composition
    • bug 639690 [META] Re-arrange code between editor and editorOverlay
    • bug 773979 [META] Switch to new drag and drop api in SeaMonkey
    • bug 657234 Move pasteQuote and pasteNoFormatting into contentAreaContextOverlay
    • File/Folder selection in windows.
  • To Do:
    • bug 639395 Get cmd_fontSize to reflect current state of selected content / content at caret.
    • Prefs-in-a-tab.
    • Create FAQ for Friends of the Fish Tank.
    • Help get composer standalone builds working with --enable-tests.




  • Reviewed bug 975362 Support HTTP cache v2 API in the UI
  • Reviewed bug 977048 Close icon only works for click-to-play plugins
  • Fixed bug 921018 RE-Add "URL Protocol" from SeaMonkeyURL key
  • Landed patch from bug 856208 Stop using global-history;2 in SeaMonkey code




Fixed on comm-central:

  • bug 977048 Close icon only works for click-to-play plugins.
This patch will need to be uplifted to comm-beta. Unfortunately I didn't realise that it needed to be uplifted so it missed the release.

Fixed on mozilla-central:

  • bug 937407 Autoscroll sometimes leaks an event listener.

Working on:

  • bug 514280 NS_GET_IID can be used on classes which don't actually declare their own IID.
  • bug 948901 Character encoding menu doesn't work correctly in the FTP directory view.

Stalled due to broken test:

Waiting for review:

  • bug 943732 Port the new Character Encoding menu to SeaMonkey.
This patch will need to be uplifted to comm-aurora.
  • bug 909093 Update SeaMonkey to use nsIContentPrefService2.



Fixed since the last meeting:

  • bug 984110 nsNetscapeProfileMigratorBase.cpp(457) : error C2440: 'typecast' : cannot convert from 'nsGetterAddRefs<T>' to 'nsISupports **'

Waiting for check-in:

Working on:

  • bug 973530 Add UI to access the remote debugger preferences.
  • bug 797240 Update suite/common/app-license.html to reference MPL2 and fix inclusion into about:license
  • Build Thunderbird with external api
    • bug 980356 Make nsMessengerWinIntegration.cpp compile with frozen linkage. Ready for check-in.
    • bug 984155 Build Thunderbird with frozen linkage / external API - Windows fixes. Has review but needs a new patch because I broke normal builds.

Other stuff:

  • Did some reviews.
  • Liason with contributor on theme updates.
  • Bug triage and Bug discussions.
  • Usual end user support and PR in newsgroups and Mozillazine.


Fixed on trunk (and aurora after the merge):

  • bug 958967 Change mixed content warning default from warn_viewing_mixed to warn_mixed_display_content and remove UI for old preference.


  • bug 960566 Move inline scripts and styles into separate files for SeaMonkey privileged about: pages.


  • Bug triage, testing, and commenting for SeaMonkey and MailNews Core.
  • Kept an eye on bug 968270 and bug 969358. (landed for 2.25b3)
  • End-user information and discussion on MozillaZine.



Working on:

  • bug 957281 Help button should be positioned at the lower end of the preferences window [Toolkit].
  • bug 973644 Port bug 967970 Set NSDisablePersistence to prevent disk leaks.



Any other business?

  • Daylight Saving Time starts in Europe end of March. We are moving to 12:00 UTC with the April 1 meeting.
  • [Ratty] KaiRo reminded us that we need to grow our contributor community. I'm not sure where we could discuss this. I have no idea on how to do this. Perhaps we can get some Engagement experts from Mozilla to give us some suggestions?
    • [IanN] might have a chat with some people and see if they can point me in the right direction.