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 As to combining the go, refresh, and stop button, that's unnecessary as well.  The go button should be removed, but stop and refresh should stay where they are.  Personally, I use hot keys, and never click the buttons, so I take them off already, but sometimes I reload a page in the middle of it loading because my internet hung and the page didn't load properly, or is timing out.  A quick mid-load refresh remedies that, and wouldn't be possible if it showed a stop button since it would still be loading.  It's just an extra step if I had to stop it, and then reload.  It may sound minuscule, but if you have to do that several thousand times, that adds up pretty fast.
+== Unorganized ==
+* what do you think about something like this?[[Image:Firefoxnnpre.jpg|1024x768px]]
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+Fida Mehran: Re: 'What do you think of something like this?':
+I think this somewhat dampens the professional look of a world class browser. As a theme for personal use as a personal preference is okay, though.
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+In the Vista/7 mockup without Aero, there are two stars, one beside the Tools menu and one beside the Page menu. I'm assuming this is an oversight? (What do the stars indicate anyway -- bookmarking UI?)
+The Windows XP interface actually looks cleaner than the Vista/7 mockups, with all icons neatly laid out on one line. Very Google Chrome-like. I like it, but some others may feel it dilutes Firefox's distinctive look. Also, not having the "Page" menu means more valuable horizontal real estate is actually available to the user's tabs.
+The biggest issue I have with this interface, though, is the Search box. Right now in Firefox 3.5, it's Back/Fwd and friends, the address bar and the search box. Adding more UI chrome to the right of the search box adds clutter and diminishes the the importance of the search UI (almost literally - the search is squeezed into a smaller size, almost like it's an afterthought.) Is an omnibox-equivalent planned for v3.7 that'll replace the search box outright? --Prasenjeet
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+Guys, love the new design but seriously - I am with Prasenjeet - you need to remove the 2 UI search boxes. There should be the so called "omnibox" - it doesn't make sense anymore to segregate both the address bar and the search box - they should be one and the same.
+This will greatly enhance the user experiences by not having to type "addresses" into one and "searches into" the other. The best thing about chrome - is how great this feature is. It makes it so much easier to simply search for things and interact with the browser.
+Get rid of the search box and replace it with an "omnibox" - and you have a winner.
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+While I agree that general searching is sometimes handy from the address bar, I don't totally agree with removing the search box.  One of the benefits of having a seperate search box is that you can add all kinds of different search providers.  For example, if I want to search for a product on Newegg, I have the little drop-down to select Newegg.  If I am looking for a book based on ISBN from Amazon, I can just select the search provider.  This kind of searching is tedious with Chrome.--[[User:Mawcs|Mawcs]] 17:39, 22 July 2009 (UTC)
+:You can still do this with the omnibox; you preface the search with a letter or two designating the desired search provider. It's not quite as easy to discover, though. --[[User:Jamesgecko|Jamesgecko]] 18:33, 22 July 2009 (UTC)
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+Please, don't get rid of the search box. Buttons that are used are functional, not "clutter", and I urge our designers to remember that this is a GUI, not a painting. You seem to be going down the same road IE did with it's now clumsy, yet 'uncluttered' interface. LESS IS NOT MORE when you're trimming muscle, not fat. The first thing I'd do with your revamped theme is restore the home button, and see if I can restore the File/Edit menu bar. People use the "Find" function in open pages all the time- don't bury it. Overall, though, very nice design, but I'd rather see improvements to the bookmark utility, particularly the ability to search tags like a database.
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+My two cents: Keep the search box. One of the design interfaces that I loathe with Google's Chrome is the integration of the search bar and address bar. I like the current function of FireFox that clearly separates the two functions. I do like the proposed positioning of the tools. I think it's an excellent user-friendly upgrade.
+The spacing of the tabs... and look. That... I'm not sold on. One of the reasons I don't use Opera is that I really hate their tab management. It never... works... like I think tabs should work. The other problem is massive tab management. I quickly took some screen shots of Opera's latest Linux offering, Google Chrome's latest Linux offering, Google Chrome's lastest Windows offering, Firefox 3.0.0.6 on Linux, Firefox 3.5 on Windows, and Konqueror from KDE3 : http://picasaweb.google.com/je.saist/BrowserTabs#  : None of the browsers really handle massive tab counts in ... an intuitive manner. Opera comes the closest by retaining the browser tab image even with a ludicrous number of tabs... but just wait until you start moving around in the tabs and trying to close them.
+I think "massive" tab management needs an overhaul in design. Exactly what that overhaul is... I'm not really sure. I think a double layering of tabs with "more tabs" button under the "tools" button might be useful. Actually, I do know what I'd want. It's also in the picasaweb link. City of Heroes manages powers by having a clearly numbered power tray with arrows pointing to the left and right that allow players to select powers. Apply that sort of formatting to the tab bar. Once a user hits the limits of a tab, a new hidden bar opens up, allowing the user to slide bars back and forth. One of the other additions to CoH is the ability to have a power bar disconnected from the main set. Something like this also might help with massive tab management, enabling users to separate the tab bar from the browser screen.
+And now I'm probably dreaming beyond the scope of Firefox 3.7
+Zerias
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+Must have buttons.. forward, backward, stop/refresh combined, home, print, and undo close tab.
+Don't need the url go or the search go buttons.
+Please don't get rid of the menu bar and the status bar or combine the url and search box.
+I really don't like how IE has the buttons spread all over the place and how IE has the menu bar under the navigation bar.  I hope we stay away from the IE UI.
+Here is what I believe to be the most useful setup:
+[[Image:Foxmenu.png]]
+I don't know about the page and tools buttons.. I would keep them as optional and not in the default setup.  I don't think I would use them much.. the default setup should show the most useful buttons.
+The bookmarks bar toggle looks like a good idea.  What happened to the url drop down?.. keep that.. maybe make it an option to remove.
+Thanks,
+Tesla
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+I really like the new designs at the begin of this page.
+Maybe it's possible to create a vote.
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+Your new proposed Firefox 3.7 UI is interesting. However it look too much like Google Chrome,and I think that will make Firefox look bad as a browser.   Personally I feel that it is a must to have the search bar in Firefox.(which is the reason why I chose Fx over IE 6) I feel that the location bar and the search bar are fine the way they are.
+Jason