WebAPI/2013-07-30

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WebAPI Meeting Details

  • Tuesday 2013-07-30 - 10:00 am Pacific
  • Dial-in: conference# 98413
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  • WebAPI Vidyo Room / SF-Golden Gate (3rd floor) / Toronto-Spadina
  • Join irc.mozilla.org #webapi for back channel

Notes will be taken on etherpad: https://etherpad.mozilla.org/webapi-meetingnotes

Notes

  • new items added to plannedwork page
    • https://wiki.mozilla.org/WebAPI/PlannedWork
    • URL parsing (Anne)
    • base URLs
    • find and findAll methods
      • needs special subclass of JS array
    • Shadow DOM
    • Fetch + NavigationController
      • lots of questions here (e.g. iframes, workers)
  • which 2 or 3 apis/features underway ATM would especially benefit from developer feedback?
    • NavigationController (with a prototype, definitely)
    • Synchronous IndexedDB (and other features like events when data changes) ... "IDB v2"
    • promises, event streams (important for promise-based APIs), data streams
    • runtime spec http://runtime.sysapps.org/ (standardization risk, lower priority) and app installation, etc. lifecycle
      • Marcos getting access to all manifests in store. Would be good to have this data public.
    • event pages
    • Notifications API
    • storage.js
    • URL API
  • survey on web API design https://groups.google.com/d/msg/mozilla.dev.webapi/-wP897XmNTI/KJD8hZPwetsJ
    • while these sorts of requests are common, techniques and guidelines for designing "good" web APIs is useful outside of the context of this person's PhD thesis
  • TC39 (Anne)
    • was inteteresting
    • ECMA part seems ... "difficult"
    • future language features and versions seems to be going well
    • regular get togethers about JS seems to work well and better than general web platform
    • ES6 been underway for a long time, they're considering more rapid releases
    • not much progress on promises, seems like movement by next meeting in September is possible
      • sounds like internal model changes but hopefully not much in what's exposed
      • we need to do something for gecko 26 (for B2G) by September 16th