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===Firefox 4 (Desktop) ===
===Firefox 4 (Desktop) ===
* Beta 8 post-mortem will likely be sometime next week. Christian will send an email around and talk about it during the Monday meeting
* generated beta 9 candidate builds late on Monday
* Plan to do a quick, date-driven beta 9 (for reals this time)
* target window for beta 9 release is Jan 14 - Jan 18 depending on feedback
** Plan to code freeze this '''Friday, 2011-01-07'''
* no set schedule for next beta or RC, evaluating based on blocker closing rate
** Weekend will hopefully shake any issues out
** Branch and build on '''Monday, 2011-01-10''' if no major issues are found
*** If issues are found, day-for-day slip on the builds
** Release to beta audience on '''Thursday, 2011-01-13'''
 
 
* Have you used Beta 8? It's awesome. We need to ship this. May require re-scoping features such as:
** WebGL
** Hardware Acceleration
** Panorama


===Firefox 4 (Mobile) ===
===Firefox 4 (Mobile) ===


===Firefox 3.6/3.5===
===Firefox 3.6/3.5===
* Humming along, announced the [https://wiki.mozilla.org/Releases/Firefox_3.6.14#Schedule blocker/non-blocker freeze split]
* Code freeze for non-blockers was yesterday, nailed it
** Code freeze for ''non-blockers'' is now 2011-01-11 (1 week away)
* Code freeze for blockers is still 2011-01-17
** Code freeze for ''blockers'' is still 2011-01-17 (2 weeks away)
* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=609085 Scary dialog] for unsupported versions is planned to go live 2011-01-18
** Final release is still planned for 2011-02-08
 
===[[AMO/FlightDeck/1.0a8|Add-on Builder 1.0a8]]===


===[[AMO/FlightDeck/1.0a7|Add-on Builder 1.0a7]]===
* 1.0a7 was released on Thursday of last week, the app is running well
* The 1.0a7 release will ship this week, it's going through the QA paces now.
* The new ACE editor should make it into 1.0a8. I received an initial API frozen build from Kevin this morning.
* 1.0a8 finalization imminent - there are a few remaining items to discuss with Kevin about the new Skywriter build.
* All 1.0a8 features and deliverables are on-track
* Worked on Q1 goals with Fligtar - we agreed on what level of AMO integration to shoot for this quarter. The final goal set will be published today.
* Projecting 1.0a11 will become 1.0b1 (our first beta!)


===[[Firefox/Input/Releases/3.0|Input 3.0]]===
===[[Firefox/Input/Releases/3.0|Input 3.0]]===
* Major New features: a first try at opening our database, ability to copy user agent per message, submission page for major release users
* Major New features: a first try at opening our database, ability to copy user agent per message, submission page for major release users
* [http://input.stage.mozilla.com/en-US/feedback Feedback page is up on staging] (can only get to it if your user agent is associated to the latest major release)
* [http://input.stage.mozilla.com/en-US/feedback Feedback page is up on staging] (can only get to it if your user agent is associated to the latest major release)
* [http://input.stage.mozilla.com/ Copy UA per message] is up on staging
* ETA: 1/21
* ETA: 1/21


Cool stuff:  
Sad News:
* input.mozilla.com has [http://input.mozilla.com/en-US/opinion/1000000 received 1,000,000 pieces of feedback]
* Users on 3.x are dealing with a [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=624711 broken "Report a Broken Website"]
* Input 2.2 went out on 12/28 (Thanks wenzel!) with a [http://input.mozilla.com/en-US/search/?product=mobile&version=4.0b3&date_start=&date_end= bigger set of known manufacturers and devices for Mobile Firefox]
 
===[[Labs/Jetpack/SDK/1.0b2|Add-on SDK 1.0b2]]===
 
* scheduled to freeze January 19 and ship January 26
* scope is small; not many changes; but gets us back to regular release cycle
* focus is on progress on E10S integration


== Highlights / Notices ==
== Feedback Summary ==
* Flash artifacts and [http://input.mozilla.com/en-US/search/?q=amazon+deal&product=firefox&version=&date_start=2010-12-27&date_end= Amazon Lightning Deals] FIXED.
* Copy/Paste, Search Box and Tab Button are new to our watch list of concerns see below for more details.
* Copy/Paste, Search Box and Tab Button are new to our watch list of concerns.  
* [http://input.mozilla.com/en-US/site/http/apps.facebook.com Smorgasboard of issues] around Facebook Flash Apps and Facebook Chat.
* [http://input.mozilla.com/en-US/site/http/apps.facebook.com Smorgasboard of issues] around Facebook Flash Apps
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|Flash-related crashes  
|Flash-related crashes  
| 40-50 just flash related (not all crashes)
| 20-30 just flash related (not all crashes)
|[http://input.mozilla.com/en-US/search/?q=crashes&product=firefox&date_start=2010-11-15 2020]
|[http://input.mozilla.com/en-US/search/?q=crashes&product=firefox&date_start=2010-11-15 2020]
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|Search Box not working
|Search Box not working
|229
|30ish
|[http://input.mozilla.com/en-US/themes/38739 229]+[http://input.mozilla.com/en-US/search/?product=firefox&sentiment=sad&date_end=&date_start=2010-11-15&version=&q=reload 216]
|[http://input.mozilla.com/en-US/themes/38739 229]+[http://input.mozilla.com/en-US/search/?product=firefox&sentiment=sad&date_end=&date_start=2010-11-15&version=&q=reload 216]
|{{bug|620672}}
|{{bug|620672}}
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|'''Netflix streaming player doesn't work OSX'''
|Netflix streaming player doesn't work OSX
|103
|17
|[http://input.mozilla.com/en-US/search/?product=firefox&q=netflix+full 103]
|[http://input.mozilla.com/en-US/search/?product=firefox&q=netflix+full 103]
|was {{bug|598406}}
|was {{bug|598406}}
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| Copy/Paste issues  
| Copy/Paste issues (also related to issues with not enough storage messages)
| 230
|[http://support.mozilla.com/en-US/questions/773919 100+ across various threads]
|[http://input.mozilla.com/en-US/themes/38512 209]
|[http://input.mozilla.com/en-US/themes/38512 209]
|[http://support.mozilla.com/en-US/questions/773919 18]
|{{bug|613915}}
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| DivX player doesn't work
| [https://support.mozilla.com/en-US/questions/772223 61] (180+ overall)
|[http://input.mozilla.com/en-US/search/?q=divx&product=firefox&version=&date_start=12%2F16%2F2010&date_end= 95]
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|New Tab Button on Tab bar doesn't work
|New Tab Button on Tab bar doesn't work
|200
| 50 across various threads
|[http://input.mozilla.com/en-US/search/?q=tab+button&product=firefox&version=&date_start=2010-12-29&date_end=&sentiment=sad 200]
|[http://input.mozilla.com/en-US/search/?q=tab+button&product=firefox&version=&date_start=2010-12-29&date_end=&sentiment=sad 200]
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| May be caused by divx extensions
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|Google's Bodybrowser WebGL demo is not compatible with Firefox 4
|Google's Bodybrowser WebGL demo is not compatible with Firefox 4
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== Highlights / Notices ==
* (beltzner) Firefox 4 Engineering Team has started using "soft" and "hard" to differentiate between blocking bugs
** the [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=blocking2:beta,final%20sw:hard hard blockers] must be completed before RC
** some (but not all) of the [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=blocking2:beta,final%20sw:soft soft blockers] may be deferred to a future release, depending on an aggregate sense of quality and product acceptance
** new schedule estimates are being generated based on this new categorization
* (beltzner) Current plan for tree management is to '''not branch''' for Firefox 4 / Gecko 2 until we get to a release candidate
** people working on post-FF4.0 can use local repos, or use any of 3 idle project branches


== Questions and Concerns ==
== Questions and Concerns ==
* Socorro migration is January 22nd


* Any questions for Axel on switching on l10n-merge and updating compare-locales? [http://groups.google.com/group/mozilla.dev.planning/browse_frm/thread/6949889d162f9247#]
== Press & Public Reactions ==
** We don't use l10n-merge on branches, correct?
*[http://www.webpronews.com/topnews/2011/01/12/february-launch-planned-for-firefox-4 February Launch Planned For Firefox 4]  
** How would failure show? Unable to build/repack? Incorrect strings in localized builds?
*[http://www.conceivablytech.com/5135/products/mozilla-its-time-to-ship-firefox-4-seriously/ Mozilla: It’s Time To Ship Firefox 4, Seriously ]
** How easy to rollback if needed?
*[http://downloadsquad.switched.com/2011/01/12/firefox-4-tentatively-scheduled-for-a-february-release/ Firefox 4 tentatively scheduled for a February release ]
** Is there any way to test in a RelEng/non-local staging environment first?
* For beta10, want to test MU from FF3.6.x -> FF4.0. Any objections?
*For SUMO documentation, are there any big changes left to happen between now and the final Firefox 4 release (e.g. tabs in title bar) that would likely require explanations to be rewritten or screenshots to be retaken?
* Any info on end-of-life on FF3.5? Not yet.
* When will "more scary" FF3.0 MU dialog be switched on? Still being localized.


== Press & Public Reactions ==
*[http://www.businessinsider.com/best-firefox-extensions-2011-1# 10 Awesome Firefox Extensions]
*[http://www.conceivablytech.com/4815/products/mozilla-says-its-time-to-create-firefox-4-add-ons-now/ Mozilla Says Its Time To Create Firefox 4 Add-Ons Now]
*[http://www.conceivablytech.com/4829/business/firefox-now-ahead-of-ie-in-europe/ Firefox Now Ahead of IE in Europe]
*[http://www.blackweb20.com/2010/12/28/mozilla-passwords-leaked-risk-minimal/ Mozilla Passwords Leaked, Risk Minimal]

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  • 650-903-0800 or 650-215-1282 x92 Conf# 8605 (US/INTL)
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  • irc.mozilla.org #planning for backchannel
  • (the developer meeting takes place on Tuesdays)
REMEMBER
These notes are read by people who weren't able to attend the meeting. Please make sure to include links and context so they can be understood.

Agenda

  • actions from last week:
  • schedule and progress on upcoming releases
  • review highlights and notices
  • respond to questions and concerns

Action Items

Schedule & Progress on Upcoming Releases

Firefox 4 (Desktop)

  • generated beta 9 candidate builds late on Monday
  • target window for beta 9 release is Jan 14 - Jan 18 depending on feedback
  • no set schedule for next beta or RC, evaluating based on blocker closing rate

Firefox 4 (Mobile)

Firefox 3.6/3.5

  • Code freeze for non-blockers was yesterday, nailed it
  • Code freeze for blockers is still 2011-01-17
  • Scary dialog for unsupported versions is planned to go live 2011-01-18

Add-on Builder 1.0a8

  • 1.0a7 was released on Thursday of last week, the app is running well
  • The new ACE editor should make it into 1.0a8. I received an initial API frozen build from Kevin this morning.
  • All 1.0a8 features and deliverables are on-track
  • Projecting 1.0a11 will become 1.0b1 (our first beta!)

Input 3.0

  • Major New features: a first try at opening our database, ability to copy user agent per message, submission page for major release users
  • Feedback page is up on staging (can only get to it if your user agent is associated to the latest major release)
  • Copy UA per message is up on staging
  • ETA: 1/21

Sad News:

Feedback Summary

  • Copy/Paste, Search Box and Tab Button are new to our watch list of concerns see below for more details.
  • Smorgasboard of issues around Facebook Flash Apps and Facebook Chat.
Issue SUMO Input Buglink
Flash-related crashes 20-30 just flash related (not all crashes) 2020
Search Box not working 30ish 229+216 bug 620672
Netflix streaming player doesn't work OSX 17 103 was bug 598406
Copy/Paste issues (also related to issues with not enough storage messages) 100+ across various threads 209 bug 613915
DivX player doesn't work 61 (180+ overall) 95
New Tab Button on Tab bar doesn't work 50 across various threads 200 May be caused by divx extensions
Google's Bodybrowser WebGL demo is not compatible with Firefox 4 221 133 bug 621718
Home button moved to the right of the search bar on load 924 bug 622141

Highlights / Notices

  • (beltzner) Firefox 4 Engineering Team has started using "soft" and "hard" to differentiate between blocking bugs
    • the hard blockers must be completed before RC
    • some (but not all) of the soft blockers may be deferred to a future release, depending on an aggregate sense of quality and product acceptance
    • new schedule estimates are being generated based on this new categorization
  • (beltzner) Current plan for tree management is to not branch for Firefox 4 / Gecko 2 until we get to a release candidate
    • people working on post-FF4.0 can use local repos, or use any of 3 idle project branches

Questions and Concerns

  • Socorro migration is January 22nd

Press & Public Reactions

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