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'''SeaMonkey Meeting Details'''
'''SeaMonkey Meeting Details'''


* Time: [http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?day=21&month=10&year=2008&hour=13&min=0&sec=0&p1=0 November 4, 2008, 13:00 UTC] (note: changed UTC due to northern hemisphere switching off daylight saving time)
* Time: [http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/fixedtime.html?day=4&month=11&year=2008&hour=13&min=0&sec=0&p1=0 November 4, 2008, 13:00 UTC] (note: changed UTC due to northern hemisphere switching off daylight saving time)
* Location: [irc://irc.mozilla.org/seamonkey #seamonkey IRC channel]
* Location: [irc://irc.mozilla.org/seamonkey #seamonkey IRC channel]


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=== Action Items ===
=== Action Items ===
(who needs to do what that hasn't been recorded in a bug)
(who needs to do what that hasn't been recorded in a bug)
* any?
* KaiRo needs to remind gavin periodically to review {{bug|407725}}.


=== SeaMonkey 2 Alpha 2 ===
=== SeaMonkey 2 Alpha 2 ===
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* Freeze target is still 18th November 2008, can we make it? Do we have enough new stuff until then to warrant another alpha?
* Freeze target is still 18th November 2008, can we make it? Do we have enough new stuff until then to warrant another alpha?
** {{Bug|428216}} (toolbarbutton iconsize/mode control) is down to the last few nits. Waiting for review and should be able to land before the 18th.
** {{Bug|428216}} (toolbarbutton iconsize/mode control) is down to the last few nits. Waiting for review and should be able to land before the 18th.
** {{Bug|255834}} (port Thunderbird RSS/Atom reader) has r+/sr+ so should be able to land ASAP.
** {{Bug|255834}} (port Thunderbird RSS/Atom reader) has r+/sr+ so should be able to land ASAP (later today hopefully).
** {{bug|36810}} (session restore) just needs some review TLC.
** {{bug|36810}} (session restore) just needs some review TLC.
** Vista integration (part of {{bug|453797}}).


=== Longer-Term SeaMonkey 2 Planning ===
=== Longer-Term SeaMonkey 2 Planning ===
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Major wanted/needed features:
Major wanted/needed features:


* {{bug|381157}} Download manager
* {{bug|381157}} Download manager.
** status/progress?
** Some progress.
* {{bug|390025}} Kill-wallet (password manager)
* {{bug|390025}} Kill-wallet (password manager).
** started work on the backend again ({{Bug|433316}})
** started work on the backend again ({{Bug|433316}}).
*** Got some code in place to try and obtain passwords from toolkit password manager before prompting. This fixed some of the unit tests when building with toolkit password manager.
*** Got some code in place to try and obtain passwords from toolkit password manager before prompting. This fixed some of the unit tests when building with toolkit password manager.
*** Came across and fixed bug {{Bug|461341}} - when toolkit password manager migrates usernames it needs to unescape them.
*** Came across and fixed bug {{Bug|461341}} - when toolkit password manager migrates usernames it needs to unescape them.
*** Wallet password details haven't been kept up to date with username/hostname changes - discussions in {{bug|433316}} on how to fix this.
*** Wallet password details haven't been kept up to date with username/hostname changes - discussions in {{bug|433316}} on how to fix this.
*** {{Bug|461029}} POP protocol will now PR_LOG errors it also displays to the user.
*** {{Bug|461029}} POP protocol will now PR_LOG errors it also displays to the user.
*** Noticed than nsMsgMailNewsURL was the only use nsUrlListenerManager and that in turn was effectively an nsTObserverArray - replaced the appropriate code {{Bug|461946}}
*** Noticed than nsMsgMailNewsURL was the only use nsUrlListenerManager and that in turn was effectively an nsTObserverArray - replaced the appropriate code {{Bug|461946}}.
**** Then noticed possible (small?) perf improvement and filed {{bug|461951}}
*** Then noticed possible (small?) perf improvement and filed {{bug|461951}}.
** Work has stalled a little in the second week (due to reviews), hoping to pick up again this week.
** Work has stalled a little in the second week (due to reviews), hoping to pick up again this week.
* {{bug|382187}} Places history
* {{bug|382187}} Places history.
** still waiting for first round of review comments from Neil
** still waiting for first round of review comments from Neil.
* {{bug|36810}} Session restore
* {{bug|36810}} Session restore.
** waiting for review, patch for turning to error page also ready ({{bug|413385}}). Needs help with css/ui for error page patch.
** waiting for review.
* {{bug|394288}} / {{bug|413385}} Toolbar customization
** Patch for turning to error page also ready ({{bug|413385}}). Needs help with css/ui for error page patch.
* {{bug|394288}} / {{bug|413385}} Toolbar customization.
** {{bug|428216}} (toolbarbutton iconsize/mode control) is down to the last few nits. Waiting for review and should be able to land before the 18th.
** {{bug|428216}} (toolbarbutton iconsize/mode control) is down to the last few nits. Waiting for review and should be able to land before the 18th.
** Toolkit {{bug|407725}} is still waiting for reviews from gavin.
** Toolkit {{bug|407725}} is still waiting for reviews from gavin.
* {{bug|456757}} Modern theme update
* {{bug|456757}} Modern theme update
** status/progress?
** No progress to date. [[User:Philip Chee|Ratty]] will poke Kuden about this.
* {{bug|460699}} Make the default theme look better on mac
* {{bug|460699}} Make the default theme look better on mac
** status/progress?
** status/progress?
* {{bug|454847}} Fishcam update
* {{bug|454847}} Fishcam update
** KaiRo tried to [http://home.kairo.at/blog/2008-10/the_death_of_the_fishcam_easter_egg get proposals from the blogosphere]
** KaiRo tried to [http://home.kairo.at/blog/2008-10/the_death_of_the_fishcam_easter_egg get proposals from the blogosphere].
** what should we do?
** The original contributor of that easter egg (Lou Montulli) has commented, and he's in the process of setting up a new one at http://www.fishcam.com/, that might just be what we are looking for.
* {{bug|410613}} OpenSearch
* {{bug|410613}} OpenSearch.
** status/progress?
** No progress.
* {{bug|453797}} SeaMonkey installer improvements
** Kairo: Our search sidebar won't work with it, but I'm not sure if we need/want to keep that one.
** status/progress?
** Ratty: We can port the advanced search sidebar extension for Firefox worse comes to the worse.
* Handling {{bug|420506}} (Thunderbird kill-rdf)
* {{bug|453797}} SeaMonkey installer improvements.
** {{bug|460952}} Ensure Thunderbird kill-rdf doesn't break SeaMonkey
** Patch is ready. mcsmurf will do some testing before submitting for review.
* Handling {{bug|420506}} (Thunderbird kill-rdf).
** {{bug|460952}} Ensure Thunderbird kill-rdf doesn't break SeaMonkey.
*** status/progress?
*** status/progress?
** {{bug|460953}} Port jminta's kill-rdf to SeaMonkey where applicable
** {{bug|460953}} Port jminta's kill-rdf to SeaMonkey where applicable.
*** status/progress?
*** status/progress?
* {{Bug|313822}} (Make Lightning work on SeaMonkey) ''(helpwanted)''
* {{Bug|313822}} (Make Lightning work on SeaMonkey) ''(helpwanted)''.
** Possible dependency on {{Bug|460960}} (Port Thunderbird tabbed interface to MailNews)
** Hard dependency on {{Bug|460960}} (Port Thunderbird tabbed interface to MailNews). The current tabbed interface code is much better than previous iterations and we are going ahead with this.
* {{bug|248970}} Do we want to port private mode ?
* {{bug|248970}} Do we want to port private browsing?
* {{bug|255834}} port Thunderbird RSS/Atom reader to SeaMonkey - reviews completed checkin later today (hopefully)
** [[User:Philip Chee|Ratty]]: This is more complicated for SeaMonkey since we also have a mail/news component, not to mention chatzilla, composer, etc.
* {{bug|255834}} (port Thunderbird RSS/Atom reader).
** Help still needs to be provided for RSS reader though {{bug|286975}} ''(helpwanted)'' once {{bug|255834}} has landed.
** We need to hook up Feed preview {{bug|415372}} at some point.


=== Roundtable ===
=== Roundtable ===


Status Updates from developers - what are you working on, what's the progress, any other comments? (feel free to add yourself to the list if your name is missing and you have interesting status)
Status Updates from developers - what are you working on, what's the progress, any other comments? (feel free to add yourself to the list if your name is missing and you have interesting status).


==== ajschult ====
==== ajschult ====
* My desktop died (so nye went away), but seems healthy again so nye is back.
==== biesi ====
==== biesi ====
==== Callek ====
==== Callek ====
==== IanN ====
==== IanN ====
* Attended EU MozCamp in Barcelona
* Attended EU MozCamp in Barcelona.
* Been working on porting / moving RSS to SeaMonkey {{bug|255834}}, further work on fixing existing issues to be done.
* Been working on porting / moving RSS to SeaMonkey {{bug|255834}}, further work on fixing existing issues to be done.


==== KaiRo ====
==== KaiRo ====
* Attended EU MozCamp in Barcelona
* Attended EU MozCamp in Barcelona.
* {{bug|459413}} Geolocation prompt - landed from Barcelona
* {{bug|459413}} Geolocation prompt - landed from Barcelona.
* Did some build system sync with mozilla-central
* Did some build system sync with mozilla-central.
* Started discussion on long-term project goals
* Started discussion on long-term project goals.
* Removed typeaheadfind from the build as bustage fix, hopefully starting a switch to a toolkit-based implementation
* Removed typeaheadfind from the build as bustage fix, hopefully starting a switch to a toolkit-based implementation.
* Started the [[SeaMonkey:Release_Process|Release_Process]] for 1.1.13, release target is Nov 12
* Started the [[SeaMonkey:Release_Process|Release_Process]] for 1.1.13, release target is Nov 12.
* As always, [http://home.kairo.at/blog/ my blog] has more detailed status about my work
* As always, [http://home.kairo.at/blog/ my blog] has more detailed status about my work.


==== mcsmurf ====
==== mcsmurf ====
* Got review on one patch in {{bug|453797}} Port Bug 392303 (Simplify installer changes) to SeaMonkey installer
* Got review on one patch in {{bug|453797}} Port Bug 392303 (Simplify installer changes) to SeaMonkey installer.
* Will test a few things with the installer on Vista, then request review on the other patch
* Will test a few things with the installer on Vista, then request review on the other patch.
* Worked on {{bug|461957}} SeaMonkey en-US installer files and check-locales.pl disagree about variable usage
* Worked on {{bug|461957}} SeaMonkey en-US installer files and check-locales.pl disagree about variable usage.
* Took a look at old roaming code and Thunderbird roaming code in a bug, but no real progress
* Took a look at old roaming code and Thunderbird roaming code in a bug, but no real progress.


==== Misak ====
==== Misak ====
* {{bug|36810}} (session restore)
* {{bug|36810}} (session restore).
* {{bug|459550}} (Port Bug 448976 (turn the Session Restore prompt into an error page) to SeaMonkey)
* {{bug|459550}} (Port Bug 448976 (turn the Session Restore prompt into an error page) to SeaMonkey).
* {{Bug|425480}} (non-ASCII characters should be decoded in the urlbar)
* {{Bug|425480}} (non-ASCII characters should be decoded in the urlbar).
* {{Bug|455877}} (port Bug 254714 to SeaMonkey)
* {{Bug|455877}} (port Bug 254714 to SeaMonkey).
* Bug reporting and bug triage.
* Bug reporting and bug triage.


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==== MReimer ====
==== MReimer ====
==== Neil ====
==== Neil ====
* {{ Bug|461938}}/{{Bug|345526}} I have a draft replacement for find as you type (status bar version).
* {{Bug|462736}} (Parallelise SeaMonkey builds) working on porting {{bug|461395}} to comm-central.
==== Ratty ====
==== Ratty ====
* {{bug|428216}} (toolbarbutton iconsize/mode control) is down to the last few nits. Waiting for review and should be able to land before the 18th.
* {{bug|428216}} (toolbarbutton iconsize/mode control) is down to the last few nits. Waiting for review and should be able to land before the 18th.
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==== sgautherie ====
==== sgautherie ====
*Attended [https://wiki.mozilla.org/EU_MozCamp_2008 EU MozCamp 2008] in Barcelona.
*Fixed (<i>or in-progress</i>) SeaMonkey bugs:
** {{bug|93902}} about:bloat, about:bloat?new are broken
** <i>{{bug|257280}} Replace [buttondown] and [buttonover] rules for some buttons of _the themes_ (and extensions/help) to work using :active and :hover rules</i>
** {{bug|418246}} Debug & QA UI menus are to the right of the Help menu
** {{bug|459333}} Fix (leftover) regression from bug 199298
** <i>{{bug|459693}} Eliminate nsFileSpec and nsIFileSpec (references) from MailNews</i>
** {{bug|462085}} Remove obsolete 'Form Manager Samples' item from Debug menu
*Fixed Core/... (but SM related) bugs:
** {{bug|228102}} </intl/strres/tests/strres-test.xul>: "This file needs a rewrite"
*<i>And working on other areas...</i>
==== Standard8 ====
==== Standard8 ====
==== stefanh ====
==== stefanh ====
==== wladow ====
==== wladow ====
* Last weekend I played a bit with the 'obsolete strings finder' script used by TB guys recently. Rough estimation of what we can remove: -100 strings in /editor, -600 in /suite. This probably won't make SeaMonkey  2.0a2.


=== Any other business? ===
=== Any other business? ===

Latest revision as of 01:03, 21 January 2011

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SeaMonkey Meeting Details

Agenda

  • Who's taking minutes? --> Ratty

Action Items

(who needs to do what that hasn't been recorded in a bug)

  • KaiRo needs to remind gavin periodically to review bug 407725.

SeaMonkey 2 Alpha 2

Bug Queries

open blockers all blockers blocker requests

  • Freeze target is still 18th November 2008, can we make it? Do we have enough new stuff until then to warrant another alpha?
    • bug 428216 (toolbarbutton iconsize/mode control) is down to the last few nits. Waiting for review and should be able to land before the 18th.
    • bug 255834 (port Thunderbird RSS/Atom reader) has r+/sr+ so should be able to land ASAP (later today hopefully).
    • bug 36810 (session restore) just needs some review TLC.
    • Vista integration (part of bug 453797).

Longer-Term SeaMonkey 2 Planning

open wanted wanted requests

Major wanted/needed features:

  • bug 381157 Download manager.
    • Some progress.
  • bug 390025 Kill-wallet (password manager).
    • started work on the backend again (bug 433316).
      • Got some code in place to try and obtain passwords from toolkit password manager before prompting. This fixed some of the unit tests when building with toolkit password manager.
      • Came across and fixed bug bug 461341 - when toolkit password manager migrates usernames it needs to unescape them.
      • Wallet password details haven't been kept up to date with username/hostname changes - discussions in bug 433316 on how to fix this.
      • bug 461029 POP protocol will now PR_LOG errors it also displays to the user.
      • Noticed than nsMsgMailNewsURL was the only use nsUrlListenerManager and that in turn was effectively an nsTObserverArray - replaced the appropriate code bug 461946.
      • Then noticed possible (small?) perf improvement and filed bug 461951.
    • Work has stalled a little in the second week (due to reviews), hoping to pick up again this week.
  • bug 382187 Places history.
    • still waiting for first round of review comments from Neil.
  • bug 36810 Session restore.
    • waiting for review.
    • Patch for turning to error page also ready (bug 413385). Needs help with css/ui for error page patch.
  • bug 394288 / bug 413385 Toolbar customization.
    • bug 428216 (toolbarbutton iconsize/mode control) is down to the last few nits. Waiting for review and should be able to land before the 18th.
    • Toolkit bug 407725 is still waiting for reviews from gavin.
  • bug 456757 Modern theme update
    • No progress to date. Ratty will poke Kuden about this.
  • bug 460699 Make the default theme look better on mac
    • status/progress?
  • bug 454847 Fishcam update
  • bug 410613 OpenSearch.
    • No progress.
    • Kairo: Our search sidebar won't work with it, but I'm not sure if we need/want to keep that one.
    • Ratty: We can port the advanced search sidebar extension for Firefox worse comes to the worse.
  • bug 453797 SeaMonkey installer improvements.
    • Patch is ready. mcsmurf will do some testing before submitting for review.
  • Handling bug 420506 (Thunderbird kill-rdf).
    • bug 460952 Ensure Thunderbird kill-rdf doesn't break SeaMonkey.
      • status/progress?
    • bug 460953 Port jminta's kill-rdf to SeaMonkey where applicable.
      • status/progress?
  • bug 313822 (Make Lightning work on SeaMonkey) (helpwanted).
    • Hard dependency on bug 460960 (Port Thunderbird tabbed interface to MailNews). The current tabbed interface code is much better than previous iterations and we are going ahead with this.
  • bug 248970 Do we want to port private browsing?
    • Ratty: This is more complicated for SeaMonkey since we also have a mail/news component, not to mention chatzilla, composer, etc.
  • bug 255834 (port Thunderbird RSS/Atom reader).
    • Help still needs to be provided for RSS reader though bug 286975 (helpwanted) once bug 255834 has landed.
    • We need to hook up Feed preview bug 415372 at some point.

Roundtable

Status Updates from developers - what are you working on, what's the progress, any other comments? (feel free to add yourself to the list if your name is missing and you have interesting status).

ajschult

  • My desktop died (so nye went away), but seems healthy again so nye is back.

biesi

Callek

IanN

  • Attended EU MozCamp in Barcelona.
  • Been working on porting / moving RSS to SeaMonkey bug 255834, further work on fixing existing issues to be done.

KaiRo

  • Attended EU MozCamp in Barcelona.
  • bug 459413 Geolocation prompt - landed from Barcelona.
  • Did some build system sync with mozilla-central.
  • Started discussion on long-term project goals.
  • Removed typeaheadfind from the build as bustage fix, hopefully starting a switch to a toolkit-based implementation.
  • Started the Release_Process for 1.1.13, release target is Nov 12.
  • As always, my blog has more detailed status about my work.

mcsmurf

  • Got review on one patch in bug 453797 Port Bug 392303 (Simplify installer changes) to SeaMonkey installer.
  • Will test a few things with the installer on Vista, then request review on the other patch.
  • Worked on bug 461957 SeaMonkey en-US installer files and check-locales.pl disagree about variable usage.
  • Took a look at old roaming code and Thunderbird roaming code in a bug, but no real progress.

Misak

  • bug 36810 (session restore).
  • bug 459550 (Port Bug 448976 (turn the Session Restore prompt into an error page) to SeaMonkey).
  • bug 425480 (non-ASCII characters should be decoded in the urlbar).
  • bug 455877 (port Bug 254714 to SeaMonkey).
  • Bug reporting and bug triage.

Mnyromyr

MReimer

Neil

Ratty

  • bug 428216 (toolbarbutton iconsize/mode control) is down to the last few nits. Waiting for review and should be able to land before the 18th.
  • Fixed some minor/trivial bugs: bug 388349, bug 459769, bug 462997
  • Track and respond to posts in the Mozillazine SeaMonkey forums. Encourage people to file bugs (and even patches!).

sgautherie

  • Attended EU MozCamp 2008 in Barcelona.
  • Fixed (or in-progress) SeaMonkey bugs:
    • bug 93902 about:bloat, about:bloat?new are broken
    • bug 257280 Replace [buttondown] and [buttonover] rules for some buttons of _the themes_ (and extensions/help) to work using :active and :hover rules
    • bug 418246 Debug & QA UI menus are to the right of the Help menu
    • bug 459333 Fix (leftover) regression from bug 199298
    • bug 459693 Eliminate nsFileSpec and nsIFileSpec (references) from MailNews
    • bug 462085 Remove obsolete 'Form Manager Samples' item from Debug menu
  • Fixed Core/... (but SM related) bugs:
    • bug 228102 </intl/strres/tests/strres-test.xul>: "This file needs a rewrite"
  • And working on other areas...

Standard8

stefanh

wladow

  • Last weekend I played a bit with the 'obsolete strings finder' script used by TB guys recently. Rough estimation of what we can remove: -100 strings in /editor, -600 in /suite. This probably won't make SeaMonkey 2.0a2.

Any other business?