SeaMonkey/StatusMeetings/2010-06-29

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SeaMonkey Meeting Details

• Time: June 29, 2010, 12:00 UTC
• Location: #seamonkey IRC channel

Agenda

• Who's taking minutes?

Action Items

(who needs to do what that hasn't been recorded in a bug) We should assign people to the open items.

NEW

OPEN

CLOSED

K.I.V.

• Get permission from Google to use their geolocation JSON service [KaiRo]. Contact at Google says they don't want additional specific consumers of the service right now and want to enable some general way of accessing it "some time" - We can only wait right now. No easy solution in sight. Also, discussing a possible open Geolocation service.

SeaMonkey 2.0.5

open blockers (1) blocker requests (0) fixed (54)

• Finally shipped last Tuesday!

SeaMonkey 2.0.6

open blockers (2) blocker requests (1) fixed (44)

• Based on Gecko 1.9.1.11, target dates TBD, estimated mid/late July, see Releases.

SeaMonkey 2.1 Alpha 2

open blockers (1) targeted (2) fixed (46)

• bug 573382 has been checked in on the relbranch, so doesn't block this one any more.
• Only marked blocker is shipping it.
• Candidate builds have been cut and are up for download an testing.
• Not much feedback so far, but bug 574438 could be serious enough to warrant a respin. Thoughts? If so, any ride-along patches? Target for release? [InvisibleSmiley: Yes, without bug 574438 deleting folders in MailNews is broken. Should be avoided if possible. Might as well use c-c tip then.]

SeaMonkey 2.1 Alpha 3

open blockers (3) blocker requests (1) targeted (0) fixed (2)

(Further 2.1 scheduling:)

• Please help updating New 2.1 Features page as we go.
• Plans for 2.1: 6-8 weeks per milestone, a3 in late July or early August, b1 in August/September, and a final in October/November.
• This seems to match recently presented Firefox 4 plans relatively well - they'll go for beta really soon now and Final in the same timeframe as we have in those plans right now.
• It would be good to get OOPP (Out Of Process Plugins) for SM2.1 but we need some way to build libxul to be able to build OOPP. Various Mailnews work has to be done for that to be possible.

Feature List, Planning

Bug statistics for last two (full) weeks: 56 new, 28 fixed, 9 triaged.

• High rate of new bugs, low rate on triage - can we do better?
• Good further triage targets could come out of looking at the component bug counts, pick yours!

Major wanted/needed features:

2.0.x

• bug 423281 Help updates.
  • status/progress?
• bug 483282 Make sure normal SeaMonkey use doesn't pay a price for having Venkman installed [Mnyromyr].
  • Needs at least a core patch landing for 1.9.1.10 bug 364864 (nsICategoryManager::deleteCategoryEntry does not persist outside of component registration) which depends on bug 480851 getting fixed on trunk.
  • Mnyromyr hopes to get to look into Venkman now that he's released Mnenhy 0.8.
  • status/progress? Any hopes that this will still make 2.0?
• bug 471346 Port GetDefaultFeedReader to SeaMonkey shell service [mcsmurf].
  • Landed on trunk, Callek and mcsmurf working to get it onto branch.
  • status/progress?
• bug 530079 landed on mozilla-1.9.1, allows password migration to complete if an invalid entry is found.

2.1

• bug 460953 kill-rdf port [sgautherie].
  • Postponed until mcsmurf (or sgautherie) can resume work on it.
  • status/progress?
• bug 436794 Enable Mac OS X system address book per default and add UI.
  • SM UI needed, unowned, helpwanted.
  • status/progress?
• bug 410613 OpenSearch. helpwanted.
  • We need to check if OpenSearch can support all our existing functionality, for example the INTEPRETS section in Sherlock search plugins. Mnyromyr will check on that, and on how extensible the Firefox code is.
  • status/progress?
  • The current consensus it to get some basic functionality going with OpenSearch first. And then later to see how much of the old functionality we can reimplement in follow-ups.
• bug 449728 Drag tabs between windows.
  • Jeffrey Lee, a Seneca student, is looking into that!
  • status/progress?
• bug 498596 Places bookmarks. [KaiRo]
  • More review comments addressed locally, a few Firefox patches ported as well, the original followup for icons has been landed already. Will post new patches and try builds this week probably. Please keep testing the current try builds.
• bug 480734 Satchel data editor ("Form Manager").
  • will be implemented in terms of Data Manager, see below.
• bug 569341 Data Manager [KaiRo]
  • Add-on now public: https://addons.mozilla.org/addon/162068 - please send your feedback to KaiRo!
  • Local work continuing on reactions to observers, Cookie part is mostly done.
• bug 477845 Build a standalone (Gecko 1.9.3) Composer. [kaze]
  • kaze will look into that once KompoZer 0.8 is done.
  • bug 477840 Backport KompoZer to Composer (Depends on bug 477845).
  • kaze has done a ton of work there. We're still trying to work out some organizational issues.
  • At the moment there is no active interest from MoMo for bringing standalone composer into comm-central. That's something we (KaiRo and kaze) will have to negotiate with the Thunderbird team (dmose).
  • status/progress?
• bug 523274 Complete new default theme icon set.
  • A list of TODO icons is up in the bug.
  • Still needs quite a bit of work.
  • status/progress?
  • bug 522023 is working on improving the browser globe in task icons, etc..
• bug 526210 Update the icon set for the SeaMonkey Modern Theme.
  • Some proposed icons got posted, we should take a look how to get that contribution into the product.
  • The rest is unowned so far.
  • status/progress?
• bug 521927 Make Search, Folder Location and Views widgets for MailNews customizable toolbars. [IanN]
  • Fixed!
• bug 97023 Search/Find in page UI: toolbar instead of dialog [bfrisch].
  • Has review, but we're waiting for a new patch that addresses the last round of comments.
• bug 533908 SeaMonkey Mail: tabs not restored [misak].
  • status/progress?
• bug 467867 [META] Implement Firefox TabBrowser API in Seamonkey [misak].
  • bug 558614 loadTabs(), loadOneTab() and change addTab()
    • status/progress?
  • KaiRo fixed bug 554908 (setIcon, updateIcon) and bug 573733 (renaming mTabs to tabs).
• bug 561600 Addon Manager Integration
  • status/progress?
• Archiving feature is progressing: fixed bug 573392, now bug 573336 can bring the UI to both TB and SM.

We also should take a look at the other items on 2.1-wanted Also the nominations need triaging.

• We need to find a solution for Lightning, which is targeting Thunderbird 3.1 now.
  • Lightning 1.0 beta 1 is for SM2.0 and TB3.0, 1.0 beta 2 is for TB3.1 (Gecko 1.9.2). Further versions will probably be for 1.9.3-based releases.

Roundtable

Status Updates from developers - what are you working on, what's the progress, any other comments? (feel free to add yourself to the list if your name is missing and you have interesting status).

InvisibleSmiley

• Fixed:
  • bug 570578 Port |bug 559040 - Make the internal archiving code work for any set of messages thus being nicer to extensions| to SeaMonkey.
  • bug 573278 Port |bug 522252 - make archiving of read-only folders do a copy, not a move| to SeaMonkey.
  • bug 573392 Port |bug 522761 Need option 'keep folders scheme' under the archive feature to don't forget the messages organization| to SeaMonkey. Also fixes bug 494266 - [IMAP] Archive subfolders not shown in folder pane directly after their creation.
• Provided anchors/references-fixing shell script for:
  • bug 246405 mail_help.xhtml should be split to several files
• Requested and got branch approval for:
  • bug 530079 Malformed URI sequence when migrating passwords from TB 2 to TB 3
• Waiting for review:
  • bug 465116 "Move to Trash" now marks as read

KaiRo

• As usual, my blog has more detailed status about my work, and Mozilla Status Board Posts also tell about my next planned steps.

Standard8

• See Mozilla Status Board Posts.

Any other business?

• Who is going to Whistler?
• ?