SeaMonkey/StatusMeetings/2011-09-06

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SeaMonkey Meeting Details

• Time: 6 September, 2011, 12:00 UTC
• Location: #seamonkey IRC channel

Agenda

• Who's taking minutes? -> Ratty
• Nominees for Friends of the Fish Tank?
  • Please note A person or entity can't be nominated twice in a row.

Action Items

(who needs to do what that hasn't been recorded in a bug) We should assign people to the open items.

NEW

OPEN

• Jtek has volunteered to oversee the details of the SeaMonkey tee-shirt shop. KaiRo has forwarded the Zazzle contact to jtek and Jeff is following up.
• We should find a better way of getting nominees for Friends of the Fish Tank.
  • We could put out a call for nominations the week before then, at the time of the meeting notice going out we could include any nominations (We need to come up with a quick FAQ as to what merits a nomination). IanN has put out an email to the members list. InvisibleSmiley came up with some sensible suggestions.
  • We need to advertise such a thing happens even if it is only in the meeting notice.

CLOSED

K.I.V.

• Get permission from Google to use their geolocation JSON service [KaiRo]. We can still only wait on the Google front right now.
  • KaiRo has heard that Google is doing a revamp of their location service, maybe they'll finally make it available publicly so we can use it. [InvisibleSmiley says:] According to Bug 677256 |Migrate to Google Location Service v2| this is still FF only :-(

Release Train

• Callek is working on getting comm-aurora and comm-beta on MXR (bug 653424).
  • Patch needs updating.
• 2.3 shipped on 16th August.
• 2.3.1 shipped on 23rd August.
• 2.3.2 shipped on 31st August.
• 2.3.3 shipped on ?? September.

Extensions Compatibility Tracking

• Addon Compatibility Listings created and maintained by InvisibleSmiley, with help from some community members like DERoss.
  • Recent changes can be found here.
• AMO has versions of Engimail and Lightning compatible with 2.3 now. :-)
• The latest Firebug is now fully compatible but still not flagged as such on AMO (which seems to depend on automatic tests being set up and run on the Firebug side, see Issue 4430)
• Besides the above, we should also take a look at other add-ons that are important for our users when they switch to 2.x.
  • Useful query: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/seamonkey/extensions/?sort=popular
• InvisibleSmiley created a 2.1 FAQ Wiki page. Everybody please help update it.
  • The FAQ should be version-agnostic and have version updates mentioned in it so Jens or whoever won't need to keep changing the version numbers.
• KaiRo created a SeaMonkey Features page and sub-pages for all those that are in development.
• The whole FAQ/AddonCompat information needs to be re-thought with versions in mind but InvisibleSmiley lacks the time to do it. It's a wiki so we can try to offload it. Ratty suggests involving imput from seamonkey-members and/or mozilla.support.seamonkey.
• There are a lot of TODOs here. Is someone going to own this and drive this forward?
  • Need InvisibleSmiley to send out an email/posting to ask for help from @members.
  • mcsmurf will help out with the FAQ.

2.2 Follow-ups and Issues

• Lost Bookmarks bug 673474 and Cookies bug 673672 on auto-update from 2.0.14 to 2.2.
  • Bookmarks can be re-imported from bookmarks.html.
• Users are unhappy about various UX and usability issues with the new Data Manager.
  • Ratty proposes that until all the major pain points are addressed, links to the old individual managers be established (probably from the various Data Manager panes).
• [InvisibleSmiley] We need to try harder to fix regressions ASAP. I feel there is still too much delay. IMO regressions from the last stable version need to be addressed with top priority, especially in light of the rapid release train.

SeaMonkey 2.3

open tracking (3) tracking requests (0) targeted (1) fixed (19)

• The New 2.3 Features page has a comprehensive list of features.
• 2.3 had ?? ADU yesterday, ?? downloads so far.
  • vs. ?? on 2.2 (with ?? on 2.0 and ?? on 2.1). So another ?? have migrated to 2.2 or above in the last two weeks.

Schedule:

• Shipped on time, with 2.3.1 and 2.3.2 following and 2.3.3 underway
  • [InvisibleSmiley:] Users still on 2.0 will probably sent to 2.3.3 directly?
• Users on 2.2 were updated to 2.3 at release time. Anyone on beta channel was updated to 2.3 already.

Follow-ups and Issues

• ewong says "On one of the systems at work 2.0 upgraded 2.2 and not 2.3. It offered only 2.2." ewong to file a bug cc Callek.
• werwolf reports that there are still no Spanish Es-Ar help files, only English for several releases.
  • RickieES will contact the es-AR people to offer them the es-ES files.

Further 2.x scheduling

• Callek will spin 2.4b1 along with Firefox 7.0b4 (?). We are not sure yet when they'll make the GO for that.
• SeaMonkey 2.4 is due out towards the end of September (27th) or perhaps early October depending on Firefox and our resources.
  • [InvisibleSmiley:] We need to make sure that anything that landed on comm-beta (for TB) or mozilla-beta (for FF) which affected non-shared code and which fixed regressions will be fixed on our side, too. Examples: Address Book bug 682803 (port bug: bug 683716), Session Store bug 668646 (no bug filed yet AFAICT)
• Please help updating the New 2.4 Features page as we go.

Feature List, Planning

Bug statistics for last two (full) weeks: 54 new, 15 fixed, 18 triaged.

• New bugs seem to be outstripping fixed/triaged but still a good amount of triaging going on.
• Good further triage targets could come out of looking at the component bug counts, pick yours!

Open reviews/flags: 43review 14 super-review 0 ui-review 8 feedback

Major wanted/needed features:

Active

• Kill-RDF:
  • bug 657604 Remove the RDF global object. [serge]
• bug 606683 Allow customization of toolbar in Composer and MailNews Composition [IanN].
  • Progressing slowly, still waiting on reviews from TB side. Full customization has to go to 2.next (currently 2.5 but will probably be pushed back further) as it needs work on TB too which is taking a while to get reviews on, plus feedback from kaze.
  • IanN is still unpicking Composer/Mail Compose code in the dependent bugs.
• de-RDF bug 654864 has been finished and landed on all development branches, including comm-beta (2.3). Still to do:
  • Neil wanted to follow up on some listener issues
  • for the selection issue, see what the TB guys come up with in bug 669203
• bug 515734 Provide More Entries in the Win7 Jumplist Tasks list. [Callek].
• bug 477845 Build a standalone (Comm-central) Composer. [kaze]
  • kaze has done a bit of work in this bug recently. Building on Windows works. Now supports debug builds on Linux if tests are disabled (--disable-tests). Still a lot to do.
  • IanN will see if he can help get builds working with --enable-tests.

Needing help, Unowned, Stalled

• Kill-RDF:
  • bug 657607 Port jminta's kill-rdf to SeaMonkey where applicable Part 2 [meta].
• bug 436794 Enable Mac OS X system address book per default and add UI.
  • SM UI needed, unowned, helpwanted.
• bug 449728 Drag tabs between windows.
• bug 477840 Backport KompoZer to Composer (Depends on bug 477845).
  • kaze has done a ton of work there. We still need to work out some organizational issues. At the moment there is no active interest from MoMo for bringing standalone composer into comm-central. That's something we (KaiRo and kaze) will have to negotiate with the Thunderbird team (Standard8).
• bug 507841 Port Bug 422814 - Make account configuration quick, easy, and more secure (autoconfig, Quick Account Setup).
• bug 533908 SeaMonkey Mail: tabs not restored [misak].
• bug 523274 Complete new default theme icon set.
  • A list of TODO icons is up in the bug.
• bug 526210 Update the icon set for the SeaMonkey Modern Theme.
  • bug 548778 New communicator icons (based on Strata theme) for SeaMonkey. Some proposed icons got posted, we should take a look how to get that contribution into the product.
  • The rest is unowned so far.
• bug 87098 [SeaMonkey] Delete key should delete location bar history list entry.
  • Note: Our location bar history doesn't and can't use autocomplete at all.
• bug 677484 Individual SeaMonkey components are not properly handled by the Windows 7 taskbar.
• bug 654009 Reply to list: automatically determine From: address
  • Note: The actual task here is to port bug 45715 "Reply to List" [button/(context) menu item]

Roundtable - Personal Status Updates

Status Updates from developers - what are you working on, what's the progress, any other comments? (feel free to add yourself to the list if your name is missing and you have interesting status).

Any other business?

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