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Meeting Details

  • Tuesdays - 9:00am Pacific, 12:00pm Eastern, 16:00 UTC
  • Mozilla Building S
  • +1 650 903 0800 x92 Conf# 347 (USA/International)
  • +1 416 848 3114 x92 Conf# 347 (Canada)
  • +1 800 707 2533 (pin 369) Conf# 347 (US Toll Free)
  • #bespin for backchannel

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  • Getting in: quick search, find
    • Dealing with attaching to canvas vs. window
  • File-manager integration
    • Moving to new TH
    • Issue of having th-versions in sync
    • dead code: a lot of code to do with old dashboard "same page"-ness. E.g. URL params
  • Preparation for next release:
    • Testing
    • Dogfood

Gordon (GPHemsley)

  • distribution vs. development
  • pie chart
    • rotate to top?
    • file browser goes away after file load?
  • BTNA

Bugs That Need Attention

  • bug 498373 – double-click select selects wrong area with tabs earlier on line
  • bug 498386 – CTRL+C/CTRL+V does not work in Safari4 on Vista

Meeting Notes

  • File manager is moving to the new Th
    • "new Th" just means the Th tip
    • Needs to use the proper Th version
    • Kevin will make a paver task to use thunderhead source in dev, but th-all.js at build time
    • we'll use script tags to access Th at this point. talk more about module management later.
    • Bespin is now migrating to the current Th in the repo
  • Julian and Dany were talking about porting Bespin's action/cursor/model to Th
    • But it requires "settings"
    • So, "settings" will be ported over to Th
    • The settings support will need to have a way to plug in a storage mechanism (like the Bespin server)
    • Ideally, there is a project out there that knows how to store data (just JSON data store) in whatever storage mechanism is available
    • Alex pointed to
  • We're working on polish now, after a bunch of changes made over time.
    • Now is a good time to use Bespin to edit Bespin.
    • Report bugs for anything you see that is annoying to work with
  • Ben and Dion are working on reviewing Chris J's code folding patch (which is a big patch)
    • The code folding patch works by expanding the existing gutter (rather than doing anything with additionally gutter areas)
    • Chris would like to do code folding for HTML and CSS as well, but needs parsers for those. We have a CSS parser already in Th.
  • Julian was having trouble getting the file browser to work with individual source files instead of th-all.js.
    • Ben explained that th-all.js includes the CSS in the file.
  • QuickOpen and Find
    • Ben had to pull out the event system change because it broke code
    • scrollbars/dragging weren't working
    • Ben asked Julian to let him know once the file manager works with the Th changes he's making
  • Distribution vs. development
    • Steve was using the hg tip tarball and then running paver dist
    • It was coming up as 0.2.2 (because that's what's in pavement). we should bump the pavement version number
    • Otherwise, Steve was having some trouble with the "production setup", which is still not for the faint of heart.
  • Gordon suggested that the pie menu should rotate once you select a wedge
    • Current plan is to actually make the pie menu go away entirely to not take up the screen real estate
  • File browser should go away once you open a file
  • bug 498373
    • Double click select selects the wrong text when there's a tab on the line
    • Alex added triple click and select also
  • bug 498386
    • Gordon needs someone with Vista to check to see if Safari4 on Vista supports ctrl-C/ctrl-V