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SeaMonkey Meeting Details


  • Who's taking minutes? -> Ratty
  • Nominees for Friends of the Fish Tank:
    • Ratty for his diligence at taking minutes, helping GFB assignees, etc. etc. etc.

Action Items

(who needs to do what that hasn't been recorded in a bug) We should assign people to the open items.


  • TBD


  • Ratty filed bug 803168 [Meta] Port Installer Changes from Firefox as at 2012/10. Hopes people will help with some of the referenced bugs.


  • TBD

Status of the SeaMonkey Buildbot Master and Tree

  • Callek's been working overtime with our buildbots and he fixed problems so that our 2.15b1 could be released on time.
  • Intermittent issue with Mac OSX64 Debug Leak log comprehension. Issue tracked in bug 811195 bug 774844 and bug 811199 (Port |bug 794510 Build with NO_NSPR_10_SUPPORT| to SeaMonkey). Also see possibly related Thunderbird bug 806492.
  • IanN filed bug 815340 (Fix some more nullptr abuse in comm-central) together with a patch.
  • All our machines are now at SCL3 or SCL1.
    • The remaining machines on Parallels are the buildmaster (cb-seamonkey-linuxmaster-01) and Linux64 (cb-seamonkey-linux64-01). These need to be migrated to ESX. Specifically:
      • sea-vm-linux64-1 will replace cb-seamonkey-linux64-01.
      • sea-master1 will replace the current buildmaster.
    • bug 740633 set up seamonkey HPs in scl3. Hardware installed and iLO configured. CentOS 6.3 installed. sea-puppet is online. Callek to set the host up as a puppet master.

Fixed Stuff Since Last Meeting

Release Train

  • 2.14b5 shipped November 14.
  • 2.14 shipped November 20.
  • 2.15b1 shipped November 26.

Extensions Compatibility Tracking

  • See Basics page. Please only list current changes here.
  • Addon Compatibility Listings
    • Extensions are now compatible by default thus mitigating the issue. Although some people still disable c-b-d and run into issues.
    • Nothing to highlight.
  • Our build team (Serge, Callek, ewong) needs to automate DOMI branch selection rather than having to tweak the every 6 weeks. bug 763506
    • sgautherie thinks that the current DOMi branches/tags are not suitable for automatic SeaMonkey branch selection.
    • Need some traction on this. IanN spoke to Serge at MozCampEU. Serge is waiting for Callek/ewong to agree what needs to happen and to say what is workable or not.
    • In the past Serge often pushed this forward for us. But with Serge on a sabbatical, Ewong thinks he should talk to Callek in getting this automated.
    • For 2.15, compat bumps were done as lined out in bug 808426.

2.x (Last, Current, Next)

  • 2.14 had ~39,300 ADU by last Sunday and ~30,100 downloads so far.
    • Of the released versions, as of last Tuesday, we have 9.0% on 2.0, 2.8% on 2.1-2.3, 3.6% on 2.4-2.6, 5.4% on 2.7-2.9, 11.8% on 2.10-2.12, 65.1% on 2.13 and 2.3% on 2.14. So, in the last two weeks, ~2.3k (an additional 1.7% of ADU) have migrated to 2.7 or above.
    • Some people cannot upgrade due to system requirements (OS version, processor capabilities etc.). This even more applies to 2.10 which dropped support for Win2k and WinXP without SP2, and 2.14 dropping Mac OS X 10.5 support.
    • We now have a webpage for latest builds available for "Legacy Platforms" like PPC (bug 759315)
  • See Basics page for the usual reminders.


open tracking (1) tracking requests (1) targeted (0) fixed (13)

  • One tracked 2.5 issue still open.
    • 2.1 through 2.7 have NOT included the ka (Kartvelian aka Georgian) locale. The last release with ka locale shipped was 2.0.14. The ka l10n maintainer has made some recent updates but;
    • Callek thinks we should remove ka, unless we can get commitment from the ka person to actually update things himself instead of dumping tarballs on us and expecting us to check it in for him. Tracked in bug 667147.
  • SeaMonkey 2.14 Release Notes


  • InvisibleSmiley would like to ask all contributors who set bugs to FIXED to also set the Target Milestone (TM) to the current trunk version at the same time if a patch was landed. See public Bugzilla saved search "SM fixed w/o TM" for recent bugs that have TM = ---.
  • Current breakages:
  • Mozilla-central bugs that affect us:
    • Note: Please file bugs if you notice any landing on mozilla-central that might break us. Please don't depend on Ratty noticing such landings.
    • bug 769764 move proxy resolution to separate thread and remove sync api. Tracked in:
      • MailNews bug 791645 Rewrite calls to synchronous nsIProtocolProxyService::DeprecatedBlockingResolve with Async code before DeprecatedBlockingResolve disappears as well.
    • bug 737615 Remove use of synchronous cache API from unit tests. Tracked in:
      • bug 804972 Remove synchronous calls to nsICacheSession::openCacheEntry in SeaMonkey tests.
    • bug 793634 Force builds to be compatible with gtk 2.18/glib 2.22. Tracked in:
      • bug 795354 Migrate SeaMonkey Linux builders to CentOS 6.
      • bug 794772 Port |Bug 713802 - Build with GIO support (and drop GnomeVFS)|
      • bug 795354 Migrate SeaMonkey Linux builders to CentOS 6.
    • bug 795144 default --disable-gnomeui icon theme support
      • porting bug needed for the two changesets?
    • bug 800018 Click-to-play is broken on various websites like or (2nd round) (affects click-to-play in SeaMonkey)
      • bug 813963 Port |Bug 800018 - Click-to-play is broken on various websites like or (2nd round)| to SeaMonkey

Feature List, Planning

Bug statistics for the last two (full) weeks: 40 new, 20 fixed, 13 triaged.

  • Low triaging effort.

Open reviews/flags: 21 review 7 super-review 1 ui-review 8 feedback

  • See Feature List page for major wanted/needed features.
    • Out of sight out of mind. The trouble with shuffling this off to another page makes these issues less discoverable. Ratty suggests featuring one or more bugs from that page at each meeting.

Good First Bugs

  • Note: The GFB list is open to all including our regular contributors.
  • Ratty is working on an updated GFB list, suggestions welcome.
  • Currently there are 30 GFBs open, 3 are being actively worked on. One is delayed, and one was abandoned.
  • List of Open mentored bugs.
    • Ratty notes that there are 24 bugs that are GFBs but without the mentor keyword. These need to be audited to see if they are really suitable as GFBs.
  • In the last two weeks since the previous meeting:
  • Mentors of stalled bugs should try to communicate with the assignees and if they can't work on them any more to unassign/free up those bugs.

Roundtable - Personal Status Updates

Status Updates from developers - what are you working on, what's the progress, any other comments? (feel free to add yourself to the list if your name is missing and you have interesting status).




Working on:

  • bug 740633 set up seamonkey HPs in scl3 (:dustin and Callek).
  • bug 809404 Configuring libffi ignores CC/CXX from mozconfig and picks up the system compiler.
  • bug 812981 Put up snippets for linux64 minor and major updates to SeaMonkey 2.14.0 and Beta to SeaMonkey 2.14b5.

Other activities:

  • Did some reviews and approvals.
  • Engaged in release engineering and SeaMonkey driver discussions.


  • Fixed:
    • bug 484379 - Not detecting feed when type has leading and/or trailing whitespace
    • bug 785675 - Port |Bug 748490 - Provide common location for testing modules| to fix multiple perma-oranges.
    • bug 791238 - Clean up Output() function in nsSuiteApp.cpp on Windows (Use MultiByteToWideChar instead of NS_ConvertUTF8toUTF16)
    • bug 791266 - Add .CAF files (Core Audio Format) to the types of sound files selectable on OS X.
    • bug 813427 - ERROR TEST-UNEXPECTED-FAIL | /tests/dom/encoding/test/test_submit_euckr.html | Test for euc-kr encoded form submission; assert_equals: expected (string) "a=%81A" but got (undefined) undefined
  • Review:
    • bug 633937 - Port bug 562048 to suite.
    • bug 739056 - Port |Bug 715099 - Convert nsProfileMigrator to JS so we can use JS modules on migration| to SeaMonkey
    • bug 768380 - sea-vm-linux64-1 need to set up for our builds.
    • bug 774991 - stop support OSX 10.5 in SeaMonkey
    • bug 801287 - Loading URL by pressing ENTER on already present URL in location bar doesn't maintain URL encoding (Port Bug 461304)
    • bug 813844 - Port changes from Bug 718067 and changes from Bug 808219 (Firefox Health Reporter service)


  • Usual testing, reviewing and commenting.
  • Fixed:
    • bug 803322 mail header won't show
    • bug 811117 Remove GetSelectedMessages from mail window and refactor some mail window code
  • Waiting for review:
    • bug 778534 Use image instead of html:img in instant messaging
    • bug 815340 Fix some more nullptr abuse in comm-central
  • Waiting for feedback:
  • Checked in pending review:
  • Fixing review comments before checkin:
    • bug 757230 When using add button for permissions in Data Manager set a displayHost
    • bug 798147 Switch to correct pref pane if pref window already open
  • Reviewed and waiting for other patches before checkin:
  • Reviewed and waiting for feedback from mobile peer:
    • bug 689253 Add en-GB locale to Firefox for Android
  • Working on:
    • Various SM Council documents.
    • bug 606683 Allow customization of toolbar in Composer and MailNews Composition
    • bug 639690 [META] Re-arrange code between editor and editorOverlay
    • bug 773979 [META] Switch to new drag and drop api in SeaMonkey
    • bug 657234 Move pasteQuote and pasteNoFormatting into contentAreaContextOverlay
    • File/Folder selection in windows.
  • To Do:
    • bug 639395 Get cmd_fontSize to reflect current state of selected content / content at caret.
    • Prefs-in-a-tab.
    • Create FAQ for Friends of the Fish Tank.
    • Help get composer standalone builds working with --enable-tests.




  • Fixed bug 773761 Port |bug 760625 Use the blocklist to inform click-to-play plugins|
  • Fixed bug 811693 AppsUtils.jsm uses getSelectedLocale("browser"), should use getSelectedLocale("global") instead?
  • Fixed bug 812375 Remove content_xtf.xpt from package manifest.
  • Fixed bug 812448 [SeaMonkey] xpcshell: "test_browserGlue_smartBookmarks.js | test failed (with xpcshell return code: 0)".
  • Fixed bug 813522 Remove libsoundtouch from (branch only).



  • Progressing slowly on bug 127399 Allow sending emails with IDN based email addresses.
  • Fixed bug 814219 nsMovemailService doesn't build with external linkage anymore.




  • bug 392848 message filter condition order incorrect within the list after editing (rule added to the end (bottom) of the rules/conditions list within the filter).
  • bug 654009 Reply to list: automatically determine From: address [SeaMonkey Part].
  • bug 810671 Remove support for low/weak/null cipher suites.
  • bug 810672 Remove dedicated OCSP responder functionality preferences.
  • bug 811904 Identify animated images again.
  • bug 814770 Select Addresses blank if opened from Compose window with To/Cc/Bcc filled in.
  • bug 814948 Reply to list: Using the thread pane's context menu list entry opens the compose window with the quoted message, but no To address is prefilled.

Core fixes:

  • bug 553874 Some reftest runs on windows hit "rm: cannot remove directory `build/reftest/tests/modules/libpr0n/test/reftest/icon/win': Directory not empty".
  • bug 556124 layout/reftests/bugs/508908-1.xul reftest persistent failure since ff6b54ac276d.


Working on:


  • Bug triage and Bug discussions.
  • End user support and PR in newsgroups and Mozillazine.





Fixed bug 806236 Update info.plist (register svg files and playable media types, clean up icons).


Any other business?

  • Bug Day:
    • Useful link: [1], also see [2] for results.
  • Test failures
    • qawanted, especially on Linux and MacOSX specific issues: reproducing and reporting would already help.
    • Serge says that on Linux and MacOSX, he just needs someone to actually run the tests and report what they see (screen, console, etc). For example, there is a Mac test about Ctrl+W not working. This should be so trivial.
    • Tonymec suggests that any enthusiastic user, even non-technical, should be able to do some testing (litmus?) and not be scared by technical language and such.
    • IanN suggests reaching out to the user community using the newsgroups and forums.
    • Ratty to liaise with Serge when he gets back on doing a write up how the community can help us with this.