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SeaMonkey Meeting Details


  • Who's taking minutes? -> mcsmurf
  • Nominees for Friends of the Fish Tank:
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Action Items

(who needs to do what that hasn't been recorded in a bug) We should assign people to the open items.


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  • Ratty filed bug 803168 [Meta] Port Installer Changes from Firefox as at 2012/10. Hopes people will help with some of the referenced bugs.


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Status of the SeaMonkey Buildbot Master and Tree

  • Intermittent issue with Mac OSX64 Debug Leak log comprehension. Issue tracked in bug 774844 and bug 811199 (Port |bug 794510 Build with NO_NSPR_10_SUPPORT| to SeaMonkey). Also see possibly related Thunderbird bug 806492.
  • All our machines are now at SCL3 or SCL1.
    • The remaining machines on Parallels are the buildmaster (cb-seamonkey-linuxmaster-01) and Linux64 (cb-seamonkey-linux64-01). These need to be migrated to ESX. Specifically:
      • sea-vm-linux64-1 will replace cb-seamonkey-linux64-01.
      • sea-master1 will replace the current buildmaster.
    • bug 740633 set up seamonkey HPs in scl3. Hardware installed and iLO configured. CentOS 6.3 installed. sea-puppet is online. Callek to set the host up as a puppet master.
  • bug 817504 Update Python on buildslaves to Python 2.7 as Python 2.7 will be required soon

Release Train

  • 2.14.1 shipped November 30
  • 2.15b2 shipped December 3
  • 2.15b3 shipped December 7

Extensions Compatibility Tracking

  • See Basics page. Please only list current changes here.
  • Addon Compatibility Listings
    • Extensions are now compatible by default thus mitigating the issue. Although some people still disable c-b-d and run into issues.
    • Nothing to highlight.
  • Our build team (Callek, ewong, Serge) needs to automate DOMI branch selection rather than having to tweak the every 6 weeks. bug 763506
    • sgautherie thinks that the current DOMi branches/tags are not suitable for automatic SeaMonkey branch selection.
    • Need some traction on this. IanN spoke to Serge at MozCampEU. Serge is waiting for Callek/ewong to agree what needs to happen and to say what is workable or not.
    • In the past Serge often pushed this forward for us. But with Serge on a sabbatical, Ewong thinks he should talk to Callek in getting this automated.
    • For 2.15, compat bumps were done as lined out in bug 808426.

2.x (Last, Current, Next)

  • 2.14 had ~75,300 ADU by last Tuesday and 2.14.1 has had ~36,700 downloads so far.
    • Of the released versions, as of last Tuesday, we have 9.7% on 2.0, 2.8% on 2.1-2.3, 3.4% on 2.4-2.6, 5.2% on 2.7-2.9, 10.1% on 2.10-2.12, 15.1% on 2.13 and 68.8% on 2.14. So, in the last two weeks, there has been a ~0.7k (0.5% of ADU) decrease in those using 2.7 or above.
    • Some people cannot upgrade due to system requirements (OS version, processor capabilities etc.). This even more applies to 2.10 which dropped support for Win2k and WinXP without SP2, and 2.14 dropping Mac OS X 10.5 support.
    • We now have a webpage for latest builds available for "Legacy Platforms" like PPC (bug 759315)
  • See Basics page for the usual reminders.


open tracking (0) tracking requests (0) targeted (0) fixed (15)

  • One tracked 2.5 issue still open.
    • 2.1 through 2.7 have NOT included the ka (Kartvelian aka Georgian) locale. The last release with ka locale shipped was 2.0.14. The ka l10n maintainer has made some recent updates but;
    • Callek thinks we should remove ka, unless we can get commitment from the ka person to actually update things himself instead of dumping tarballs on us and expecting us to check it in for him. Tracked in bug 667147.
  • SeaMonkey 2.14 Release Notes


  • InvisibleSmiley would like to highlight bug 815012 (Mail messages corrupt after running filters) which he personally experienced and added to the Release Notes of both 2.14 and 2.15. It's probably a quite serious dataloss bug, but no progress there.
  • InvisibleSmiley would like to ask all contributors who set bugs to FIXED to also set the Target Milestone (TM) to the current trunk version at the same time if a patch was landed. See public Bugzilla saved search "SM fixed w/o TM" for recent bugs that have TM = ---.
  • Current breakages:
    • TBD
  • Mozilla-central bugs that affect us:
    • Note: Please file bugs if you notice any landing on mozilla-central that might break us. Please don't depend on Ratty noticing such landings.
    • bug 769764 move proxy resolution to separate thread and remove sync api. Tracked in:
      • MailNews bug 791645 Rewrite calls to synchronous nsIProtocolProxyService::DeprecatedBlockingResolve with Async code before DeprecatedBlockingResolve disappears as well.
    • bug 737615 Remove use of synchronous cache API from unit tests. Tracked in:
      • bug 804972 Remove synchronous calls to nsICacheSession::openCacheEntry in SeaMonkey tests.
    • bug 793634 Force builds to be compatible with gtk 2.18/glib 2.22. Tracked in:
      • bug 795354 Migrate SeaMonkey Linux builders to CentOS 6.
      • bug 794772 Port |Bug 713802 - Build with GIO support (and drop GnomeVFS)|
    • bug 795144 default --disable-gnomeui icon theme support
      • porting bug needed for the two changesets? Changes could be folded into bug 794772 above.
    • bug 800018 Click-to-play is broken on various websites like or (2nd round) (affects click-to-play in SeaMonkey)
      • bug 813963 Port |Bug 800018 - Click-to-play is broken on various websites like or (2nd round)| to SeaMonkey FIXED
    • bug 804865 Require Python 2.7 to build the tree. Tracked in:
      • bug 817504 update all SeaMonkey slaves to use python 2.7.

Feature List, Planning

Bug statistics for the last two (full) weeks: 41 new, 16 fixed, 18 triaged.

  • Low triaging effort.

Open reviews/flags: 24 review 7 super-review 1 ui-review 9 feedback

  • See Feature List page for major wanted/needed features.
    • Out of sight out of mind. The trouble with shuffling this off to another page makes these issues less discoverable. Ratty suggests featuring one or more bugs from that page at each meeting.
  • Featured helpwanted bugs:
    • bug 654009 Reply to list: automatically determine From: address. This involves porting bug 45715 "Reply to List" [button/(context) menu item]
      • Mostly fixed. Do we still need a separate button?
        • Meeting has decided: No. Bug taken off the feature list page
    • bug 664309 Make the built-in ChatZilla display a cZ icon in SeaMonkey.

Good First Bugs

  • Note: The GFB list is open to all including our regular contributors.
  • Ratty is working on an updated GFB list, suggestions welcome.
  • New GFBs recently added:
    • bug 815820 Fix SeaMonkey 2.14 README on ftp server on how to get the source code
    • bug 814739 rename gMsgCompose in addressbook-panel.js to something unique.
    • bug 812050 [modern] some dialog boxes clipped at the bottom. Need to add commonDialog.css to Modern.
  • Currently there are 28 GFBs open, 3 are being actively worked on. bug 735333 needs some help getting this running on the try-server.
  • List of Open mentored bugs.
    • Ratty notes that there are 24 bugs that are GFBs but without the mentor keyword. These need to be audited to see if they are really suitable as GFBs.
  • In the last two weeks since the previous meeting:
    • bug 795158 Switch to Services.jsm: /editor/ui/ -> is being worked on
    • bug 735333 Use Services.prefs instead of preferences-service / gPrefService, in SeaMonkey code -> patches are currently tested by Frank Wein locally on his own PC
  • Mentors of stalled bugs should try to communicate with the assignees and if they can't work on them any more to unassign/free up those bugs.

Roundtable - Personal Status Updates

Status Updates from developers - what are you working on, what's the progress, any other comments? (feel free to add yourself to the list if your name is missing and you have interesting status).




Working on:

  • bug 740633 set up seamonkey HPs in scl3 (:dustin and Callek).
  • bug 809404 Configuring libffi ignores CC/CXX from mozconfig and picks up the system compiler.
  • bug 812981 Put up snippets for linux64 minor and major updates to SeaMonkey 2.14.0 and Beta to SeaMonkey 2.14b5.
  • bug 817383 SeaMonkey needs new (public) GPG key, in order to support signing releases properly.
  • bug 817504 update all SeaMonkey slaves to use python 2.7.
  • bug 820250 Add SeaMonkey 2.15 Beta 4 to bouncer.

Other activities:

  • Did some reviews and approvals.
  • Engaged in release engineering and SeaMonkey driver discussions.


  • Fixed:
    • bug 791273 - nsSuiteGlue does unnecessary work when there are no new add-ons installed (Port Bug 727637).
  • Review:
    • bug 739056 - Port |Bug 715099 - Convert nsProfileMigrator to JS so we can use JS modules on migration| to SeaMonkey
    • bug 768380 - sea-vm-linux64-1 need to set up for our builds.
    • bug 774991 - stop support OSX 10.5 in SeaMonkey
    • bug 813844 - Port changes from Bug 718067 and changes from Bug 808219 (Firefox Health Reporter service)


  • Usual testing, reviewing and commenting.
  • Fixed:
  • Waiting for review:
  • Waiting for feedback:
  • Checked in pending review:
  • Fixing review comments before checkin:
    • bug 757230 When using add button for permissions in Data Manager set a displayHost
    • bug 798147 Switch to correct pref pane if pref window already open
  • Reviewed and waiting for other patches before checkin:
  • Reviewed and waiting for feedback from mobile peer:
    • bug 689253 Add en-GB locale to Firefox for Android
  • Working on:
    • Various SM Council documents.
    • bug 606683 Allow customization of toolbar in Composer and MailNews Composition
    • bug 639690 [META] Re-arrange code between editor and editorOverlay
    • bug 773979 [META] Switch to new drag and drop api in SeaMonkey
    • bug 657234 Move pasteQuote and pasteNoFormatting into contentAreaContextOverlay
    • File/Folder selection in windows.
  • To Do:
    • bug 639395 Get cmd_fontSize to reflect current state of selected content / content at caret.
    • Prefs-in-a-tab.
    • Create FAQ for Friends of the Fish Tank.
    • Help get composer standalone builds working with --enable-tests.





  • bug 792899 docshell/test/chrome/test_bug789773.xul introduced in bug 789773 uses about:home which SeaMonkey doesn't have.
  • bug 814967 SeaMonkey trunk build failure (nsIMsgDatabase.idl).

Working on:

  • bug 774296 [SeaMonkey] "test_browserGlue_smartBookmarks.js | 6 == 5".
  • bug 819715 [SeaMonkey] browser_dataman_basics.js | The correct number of domains is listed - Got 7, expected 18.
  • bug 820308 [SeaMonkey] Test test_browserGlue_corrupt_nobackup.js times out



Fixed bug 127399 Allow sending emails with IDN based email addresses.




  • bug 813963 Port |bug 800018 Click-to-play is broken on various websites like or (2nd round)| to SeaMonkey.

Working on:

  • bug 801287 Loading URL by pressing ENTER on already present URL in location bar doesn't maintain URL encoding (Port bug 461304).
  • bug 817441 Turn SSL-related warning prompts into notifications.
  • bug 818861 Shouldn't be able to promise a flat string from a flat string [Core].
  • bug 819154 Clean up string usage in Android Bridge [Core].
  • bug 819160 j/k keys are the wrong way around [Web Tools].
  • bug 819165 j/k/n/p should focus link [Web Tools].
  • bug 819798 Element.setAttribute(attr, null); now sets the attribute to the string "null" instead of the empty string.



  • bug 812898 Implement plugin preview overlay from bug 776208.
  • bug 815127 Sanitizer: Clear Private Data should clear search bar and find bar data.
  • bug 818017 Sync changes in global/alerts/alert.css from Toolkit (Adjust styling of nsIAlertService alert windows).

Working on:

  • bug 404580 Provide information like preview text, subject and sender in mail notification window - as in Thunderbird.
  • bug 477718 Implement Phishing Protection (a.k.a. Safe Browsing) support in SeaMonkey.


  • Bug triage and Bug discussions.
  • End user support and PR in newsgroups and Mozillazine.






Any other business?

  • Safe browsing API (Google)
  • Test failures
    • qawanted, especially on Linux and MacOSX specific issues: reproducing and reporting would already help.
    • Serge says that on Linux and MacOSX, he just needs someone to actually run the tests and report what they see (screen, console, etc). For example, there is a Mac test about Ctrl+W not working. This should be so trivial.
    • Tonymec suggests that any enthusiastic user, even non-technical, should be able to do some testing (litmus?) and not be scared by technical language and such.
    • IanN suggests reaching out to the user community using the newsgroups and forums.
    • Ratty to liaise with Serge when he gets back on doing a write up how the community can help us with this.