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SeaMonkey Meeting Details


  • Who's taking minutes? -> mcsmurf
  • Nominees for Friends of the Fish Tank
    • -

Action Items

(who needs to do what that hasn't been recorded in a bug) We should assign people to the open items.




Status of the SeaMonkey Buildbot Master and Tree

  • No Windows langpacks since 8th April on trunk. Needs investigating.
    • Comment from mcsmurf on this: Not clear what is meant by this, please clarify. xpi/win32/ folders on FTP server look fine. Also file a bug if something needs to be investigated/fixed.
  • Both our buildmaster and cb-seamonkey-linux64-01 VMs are dead due to hardware failures on the Parallels host.
    • sea-vm-linux64-1 has replaced cb-seamonkey-linux64-01 and is running jobs now.
    • sea-master1 is now the buildmaster (bug 827079 and bug 884454).
  • Tinderbox is EOLed. Callek has a newer version of TBPL that doesn't depend on tinderbox up and running.
    • Linux32 is fixed on trunk and aurora, windows trunk was fixed as of today. By tomorrow we'll have aurora and trunk nightlies building. Linux64 is still busted for 2.20+, Callek has a fix planned (bug 890594).
  • bug 740633 set up seamonkey HPs in scl3. Hardware installed and iLO configured. CentOS 6.3 installed.
  • comm-* will be building out of mozilla-* eventually. Jcrammer is working on this.

Fixed Stuff Since Last Meeting

  • Buildmaster up and running, although stuck behind a locked door atm.
    • Builds running and uploading, but tbpl and normal views into the process are not public.
    • ewong and Callek can manually look at builds and results, as well as generate releases
    • Callek is hand-approving requests for CLOSED TREE landings until he gets things visible enough to open the tree. (Callek only because these approvals preclude that Callek is watching results manually)

Release Train

  • SeaMonkey 2.18 was cancelled (See previous meeting notes for details). Users of 2.17.1 will be going directly to 2.19.
  • SeaMonkey 2.19 beta 1 was released on June 20th.
  • SeaMonkey 2.19 Beta 2 was released on June 26th.
    • This is the release that folds in pending release-worthy SeaMonkey patches which were awaiting approval while the tree was closed.
  • SeaMonkey 2.19 released on July 2nd.
  • SeaMonkey 2.20 beta 1 expected out on July 9th.
  • Linux64 broken on comm-central and comm-aurora due to gtk header issues, (already fixed prior to hardware failure on linux32)

Extensions Compatibility Tracking

2.x (Last, Current, Next)

  • [From a previous meeting:] There is a problem with the metrics server, so no current data is available
  • See Basics page for the usual reminders.


open tracking (0) tracking requests (1) targeted (0) fixed (10)


  • Current breakages:
    • With the SeaMonkey TBPL down, Ratty has no idea what's broken and what isn't. However the Thunderbird tree is CLOSED due to multiple breakages.
    • [mozilla-central] bug 856270 Update nsEditorSpellCheck to use nsIContentPrefService2.
      • This broke comm-central in various ways:
      • SM bug 889882 Mail compose window on a reply will not allow change of To, CC, etc, nor entry of text.
      • TB bug 880595 Recent changes making spell check more async (Bug 856270) broke spell check in Thunderbird.
      • TB bug 881588 message header is read-only when compose window is reused.
      • Core bug 887010 InlineSpellChecker.addDictionaryListToMenu fails if called straight after InlineSpellChecker.enabled is set to true (and no async work around).
  • Mozilla-central bugs that affect us:
    • Note: Please file bugs if you notice any landing on mozilla-central that might break us. Please don't depend on Ratty noticing such landings.
    • bug 769764 move proxy resolution to separate thread and remove sync api. Tracked in:
      • MailNews bug 791645 Rewrite calls to synchronous nsIProtocolProxyService::DeprecatedBlockingResolve with Async code before DeprecatedBlockingResolve disappears as well.
    • bug 737615 Remove use of synchronous cache API from unit tests. Tracked in:
      • bug 804972 Remove synchronous calls to nsICacheSession::openCacheEntry in SeaMonkey tests.
      • Mcsmurf says this is almost fixed but there was a test failure. He will close this bug and open a new one for the failure.
    • bug 793634 Force builds to be compatible with gtk 2.18/glib 2.22. Tracked in:
    • bug 795144 default --disable-gnomeui icon theme support
      • porting bug needed for the two changesets? Changes could be folded into bug 794772 above. *** IanN and Ewong are looking into this..
    • bug 839034 move markPageAsXXX methods to nsINavHistoryService. Tracked in:
    • bug 627699 Port GTK2 to GTK3. Tracked in:

Feature List, Planning

Private Browsing is now mostly complete and uplifted to 2.18 2.19. Most things should work but some edge cases have probably been missed. Hopefully any remaining bugs will be found before its release.

  • Testing would be appreciated! Please file bugs as blocking the meta bug 460895.
  • We need to figure out if we want a new about:privatebrowsing page which someone will have to write (bug 842439).

Bug statistics for the last two (full) weeks: 31 new, 8 fixed, 9 triaged.

  • Low triaging effort.

Open reviews/flags: 23 review 7 super-review 2 ui-review 6 feedback

  • See Feature List page for major wanted/needed features.
    • Ratty suggests featuring one or more bugs from that page at each meeting.
  • Featured helpwanted bugs:

Good First Bugs

  • Note: The GFB list is open to all including our regular contributors.
  • Ratty is working on an updated GFB list, suggestions welcome.
  • Everyone is welcome to look at the GFBs or if they find a bug they want to tackle then ask in irc://moznet/seamonkey and we'll find a mentor if you need it.
  • New GFBs recently added:
  • Currently there are 24 GFBs open, 2 are being actively worked on.
  • List of Open mentored bugs.
    • Ratty notes that there are 23 bugs that are GFBs but without the mentor keyword. These need to be audited to see if they are really suitable as GFBs.
  • Mentors of stalled bugs should try to communicate with the assignees and if they can't work on them any more to unassign/free up those bugs.

Roundtable - Personal Status Updates

Status Updates from developers - what are you working on, what's the progress, any other comments? (feel free to add yourself to the list if your name is missing and you have interesting status).




  • bug 886207 Add SeaMonkey 2.19 Beta 2 to bouncer.
  • bug 886209 SeaMonkey Builders don't know about SHT_ARM_EXIDX.
  • bug 887644 Add SeaMonkey 2.19 to bouncer.

Working on:

  • bug 827178 Update stage.m.o cron to match recent changes with ffxbld cron.
  • bug 845844 Deploy updated tbpl to
  • bug 884454 Bring up sea-master1 with puppet.
  • bug 890418 Add SeaMonkey 2.20 Beta 1 to bouncer.


  • bug 890429 SeaMonkey master failing to upload log files.


  • Fixed:
    • bug 885958 - cb-seamonkey-linux64-1 is no longer used. Remove from buildbot configs.
  • Review:
    • bug 739056 - Port |Bug 715099 - Convert nsProfileMigrator to JS so we can use JS modules on migration| to SeaMonkey

  • To Do:


  • Some testing, reviewing and commenting.
  • Fixed:
  • Checked in pending review:
  • Waiting for feedback/review:
  • Fixing review comments before checkin:
    • bug 757230 When using add button for permissions in Data Manager set a displayHost
    • bug 798147 Switch to correct pref pane if pref window already open
    • bug 778534 Use image instead of html:img in instant messaging
  • Working on:
    • Various SM Council documents.
    • bug 606683 Allow customization of toolbar in Composer and MailNews Composition
    • bug 639690 [META] Re-arrange code between editor and editorOverlay
    • bug 773979 [META] Switch to new drag and drop api in SeaMonkey
    • bug 657234 Move pasteQuote and pasteNoFormatting into contentAreaContextOverlay
    • File/Folder selection in windows.
  • To Do:
    • bug 639395 Get cmd_fontSize to reflect current state of selected content / content at caret.
    • Prefs-in-a-tab.
    • Create FAQ for Friends of the Fish Tank.
    • Help get composer standalone builds working with --enable-tests.




  • Reviewed bug 883855 Port bug 882624 - Remove "URL Protocol" from SeaMonkeyURL key
  • Preparing for check-in: bug 798278 Implement multiple plugin doorhanger UI (Port Bug 797677 and Bug 754472)
  • Fixed on comm-central and comm-aurora: bug 870290 [SeaMonkey] (perma-orange) TEST-UNEXPECTED-FAIL test_hang_submit.xul | Test timed out. (Broken plugin crash reporter submit link)
  • Fixed bug 829850 Build errors with VS2012 - mixing MTd libs with MDd exes fail to link
  • Filed and triaged some bugs related to autocomplete code changes in toolkit/





Checkin needed:

  • bug 889352 Remote debugging doesn't work if any tabs have no title.
  • bug 887045 Private windows opened after normal windows appear in recently closed list.
  • bug 886099 Remove "Manage CRLs..." button from Preferences.

Working on:

  • bug 868486 Session restore logic appears broken in Browser preference pane.


Instead you can view the web console remotely once you enable the built-in debugger.

My review queue hasn't got longer this month. (It hasn't got shorter either...)


Fixed but Check-in waiting on CLOSED TREE:

  • bug 886021 Rollup updates for SeaMonkey web search. Sync with Firefox.
  • bug 885506 Port |bug 840745 default html5 audio/video player controls should facilitate changing playback rate|

Working on:

  • bug 876430 Update Dataman for changes in DOMStorage and localStorage.
  • bug 881083 [parity-Multizilla] Add a "Validate this page" entry to the Web Development submenu.
  • bug 883546 Address Book Toolbar Search Bar visually overlaps line between icons and text labels in large icon mode.
  • bug 888310 Use more Services.jsm in SeaMonkey feed discovery and preview.
  • bug 890348 Start the devtools debugger during application startup and register observers for preference changes.


  • This and that.

Other stuff:

  • Did some reviews.
  • Bug triage and Bug discussions.
  • Usual end user support and PR in newsgroups and Mozillazine.


Waiting for checkin (comm-central):

  • bug 883482 Change the checkbox to search only messages saved locally to a more descriptive menulist.
  • bug 880464 Setting up an RSS account first should not make it the default account.

Waiting for reviews:

  • bug 868495 Browser main preference pane cut off on Windows 7 with hardware acceleration enabled. (additional patch).


  • Bug triage, testing, and commenting for SeaMonkey and MailNews Core.
  • End-user information and discussion on MozillaZine, Knowledge Base updates.
    • Discussions on Gmail not causing new-mail alerts to go off on new mail (bug 885220 and related; Thunderbird thread [1], SeaMonkey equally affected).
    • DPI-based rendering changes with Gecko 22.0 causing issues for Windows users with 125% display settings (thread at [2]).



  • Fixed bug 857461 pinstripe: non-native focus rings are applied for links in chrome [Toolkit].
  • Working on bug 891099 [Mac default] Make Sync setup wizard look better on Mac.



(I forgot) The current experimental nightlytt-3.6pre-fx+tb+sm+tk.xpi with SeaMonkey titlebar customization is dated 30 June. It is at the same location as previously, and includes one additional bugfix: Set file extension in filepicker to avoid silent overwrites (#124). The version at mozilla/nightlytt on github, includes since 7 June most, but not all, SeaMonkey support fixes. Tonymec (talk) 08:27, 9 July 2013 (PDT)

Any other business?

  • SeaMonkey Shop: DO NOT accept a Gift Certificate, and indeed don't put any money into a Zazzle account, unless you have a Visa, MasterCard, AmEx or similar credit card. Zazzle requires one such in lieu of an ID for every use of the funds in your account, even if you already have the necessary amount to your credit (purchases of objects, where you can change your mind until the last moment, or of gift certificates, where you can't change your mind once you've entered the details of the addressee and accepted them). In particular, European debit cards are not accepted. These procedures were (IIUC) thought up by sales suits, who never even heard of confirmation email messages with secret codes in them, unlike the "I've lost my password" procedure, which is a "technical" routine best left to lowly programmers (y'know, those who call 'mselves hackers when out of the management's hearing). Been there done that, my bad. — Tonymec (talk) 14:02, 7 July 2013 (PDT)
  • Due to time constraints InvisibleSmiley has to give up making the meeting announcements. Rsx11m has agreed to take this up on a provisional basis for the time being (IanN already took care of it this time).