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SeaMonkey Meeting Details


  • Who's taking minutes? -> Ratty
  • Nominees for Friends of the Fish Tank:
    • (Skipped)

Action Items

(who needs to do what that hasn't been recorded in a bug) We should assign people to the open items.




Status of the SeaMonkey Buildbot Master and Tree

  • bug 908090 ImportError: No module named json, on SeaMonkey Linux/Windows (all) test runs, due to (still) using Python 2.5. We do have python 2.7 installed but our build system is picking up python 2.5 instead.
  • No Windows langpacks since 8th April on trunk. Needs investigating.
    • (as well as .../mac/xpi/) contain nothing more recent than 2.20a1. Not sure if a bug has been filed. Linux-i686 is OK… when the Linux builders are green of course (see "current linux bustage" bullet item below). Linux-x86_64 langpacks were never built (enhancement bug 892418), so that's OK too. Callek told me on IRC he has a hunch about why but more pressing things to do first. This is low priority since langpacks are supposed to be the same regardless of on which platform they were built, but it might indicate (I haven't checked) missing "full builds" for W32 and Mac other than en-US. Tonymec (talk) 17:53, 23 July 2013 (PDT)
  • Newer version of TBPL at [1].
  • Buildmaster up and running, although stuck behind a locked door at the moment.
    • Builds are running and uploading, but tbpl and normal views into the process re not public.
    • Ewong and Callek can manually look at builds and results, as well as generate releases.
    • Callek is hand-approving requests for CLOSED TREE landings until he gets things visible enough to open the tree. (Callek only because these approvals preclude that Callek is watching results manually).
    • Linux64 gstreamer bustage for 2.20+ has now been fixed, Reported in: bug 890594; fixed in bug 886180.
    • Current Linux bustage is caused by Core bug 825708. We are tracking this in bug 910990 (trunk is not compiling due to old header linux/ethtool.h).
  • bug 740633 set up seamonkey HPs in scl3. Hardware installed and iLO configured. CentOS 6.3 installed.
  • comm-* will be building out of mozilla-* eventually (bug 648979 etc.). Jcrammer is working on this.

Release Train

  • SeaMonkey 2.21 beta 1 expected to be released this week. However we are encountering technical problems so our ship date is at risk (see bug 906976).

Extensions and Plugins Compatibility Tracking

  • See Basics page. Please only list current changes here.
  • Addon Compatibility Listings
  • There are now Lightning versions for both SM 2.20 (Lightning 2.5b2) and SM 2.21 betas (Lightning 2.6b1) available on AMO.
    • Might need to point out in release notes that users needs to install the Lightning beta versions for the SeaMonkey releases (as Lightning follows Thunderbird 17.0.x release schedule)
    • Problem: Linking to will provide users with versions that do not put them on the addons beta update channel; also linking to a specific version would need updating with every release
    • Linking to does not jump to the correct page position as loads the user comments for the addon after pageload. So it first moves to the correct position (page anchor) and after that it loads the user comments
  • Our build team needs to automate DOMI branch selection rather than having to tweak the every 6 weeks. bug 763506
  • Nightly Tester Tools is being actively developed by xabolcs (coder) and whimboo (reviewer) to make it more compatible with comm-central in general and SeaMonkey in particular. See Issues · mozilla/nightlytt · GitHub.
    • See also the Nightly Tester Tools wiki page which details the preferences used by the extension, and the variable names to use in the two of them whose name includes ".template." Table rows in italics are for variables which are new in version 3.7pre20130806 (see below)
    • NTT 3.6 (with SeaMonkey support, and with zh-CN localization in addition to en-US) has been released and is now the "stable" version at AMO since 10 August. There is also (since 7 August) a "beta" version 3.7pre which supports customizing the titlebar and/or the useragent paste function with either or both of the comm-something and mozilla-something Mercurial changesets. (See "Development Channel" at the bottom of the AMO page.)
  • Plugins: (They are not XPIs but nowadays they are handled by the add-ons manager so they might belong here for lack of a better section on this page.)
    • After bug 549697 the preference plugins.click_to_play doesn't do anything by itself any more. Instead, when the pref is set to true each installed plugin can be individually set to "always ask" in addition to the options "always activate" and "never activate". Mcsmurf fixed this in bug 901749 by making "Activate all plugins by default" in SeaMonkey preferences to set the right preference (plugin.default.state).

2.x (Last, Current, Next)

  • [From a previous meeting:] There is a problem with the metrics server, so no current data is available
  • See Basics page for the usual reminders.


open tracking (0) tracking requests (0) targeted (2) fixed (38)


  • Current breakages:
    • [mozilla-central] bug 856270 Update nsEditorSpellCheck to use nsIContentPrefService2.
      • This broke comm-central in various ways:
      • Core bug 887010 InlineSpellChecker.addDictionaryListToMenu fails if called straight after InlineSpellChecker.enabled is set to true (and no async work around).
  • Mozilla-central bugs that affect us:
    • Note: Please file bugs if you notice any landing on mozilla-central that might break us. Please don't depend on Ratty noticing such landings.
    • bug 831208 (asyncContentPrefsUse) Refactor asyncContentPrefs consumers to use the async API. Tracked in:
      • bug 909093 Update SeaMonkey to use nsIContentPrefService2.
    • bug 566746 (asyncFormHistory) Form history should use asynchronous storage API. Tracked in:
      • bug 912031 Use Asynchronous FormHistory.jsm in place of nsIFormHistory2 in Suite.
    • bug 769764 move proxy resolution to separate thread and remove sync api. Tracked in:
      • MailNews bug 791645 Rewrite calls to synchronous nsIProtocolProxyService::DeprecatedBlockingResolve with Async code before DeprecatedBlockingResolve disappears as well.
    • bug 737615 Remove use of synchronous cache API from unit tests. Tracked in:
      • bug 804972 Remove synchronous calls to nsICacheSession::openCacheEntry in SeaMonkey tests.
      • Mcsmurf says this is almost fixed but there was a test failure. He will close this bug and open a new one for the failure.
    • bug 793634 Force builds to be compatible with gtk 2.18/glib 2.22. Tracked in:
    • bug 795144 default --disable-gnomeui icon theme support
      • porting bug needed for the two changesets? Changes could be folded into bug 794772 above. *** IanN and Ewong are looking into this..
    • bug 839034 move markPageAsXXX methods to nsINavHistoryService. Tracked in:
    • bug 627699 Port GTK2 to GTK3. Tracked in:
      • bug 882036 Port GTK2 to GTK3 - SeaMonkey Part.
      • A Red Hat person seems to be working on the GTK3 integration.
    • bug 846635 Use asynchronous getCharsetForURI in getShortcutOrURI. bug 834543 Add asynchronous version of setCharsetForURI and getCharsetForURI. Tracked in:
      • bug 896947 Use asynchronous version of setCharsetForURI and getCharsetForURI in getShortcutOrURI and other places.
    • bug 825588 Asynchronous JavaScript API for downloads and bug 851471 Decommission nsIDownloadManager. Tracked in:
      • bug 888915 Move SeaMonkey to the new JavaScript API for downloads when nsIDownloadManager is decommissioned.

Feature List, Planning

Private Browsing is now working and uplifted to SeaMonkey 2.19. Currently we are treating this feature as Experimental because although most things are working some edge cases have probably been missed. Hopefully any remaining bugs will be found before we formally announce.

  • Testing would be appreciated! Please file bugs as blocking the meta bug 460895.
  • TODO The about:privatebrowsing page needs UI polish (bug 842439).

Bug statistics for the last two (full) weeks: 18 new, 9 fixed, 12 triaged.

  • Medium triaging effort.

Open reviews/flags: 23 review 7 super-review 2 ui-review 6 feedback

Roundtable - Personal Status Updates

Status Updates from developers - what are you working on, what's the progress, any other comments? (feel free to add yourself to the list if your name is missing and you have interesting status).




  • Checkin-needed:

  • Review:
    • bug 840427 - Migrate SeaMonkey builders to using mock
    • bug 853720 - After bug 827446, SeaMonkey doesn't know mozcrash.
  • Working On:
    • bug 110904 - attach signature fails silently on bad paths
    • bug 507676 - Port |Bug 435804 - Remaining rdf cleanup for FilterListDialog| to SeaMonkey
    • bug 837649 - [Tracking Bug] Stop OSX 10.5 support for SeaMonkey project
    • bug 837650 - Stop support for OSX 10.5 in suite/ tree
    • bug 863747 - Add option to disable Location bar history
    • bug 864291 - Remove "Personas" from UI and Help
    • bug 900422 - Debug Preferences should handle nglayout.debug.paint_flashing_chrome


  • Some testing, reviewing and commenting.
  • Fixed:
    • bug 889152 send format html and plain domains set in mailnews.js are ignored
  • Pending check in:
  • Checked in pending review:
  • Waiting for feedback/review:
  • Fixing review comments before checkin:
    • bug 757230 When using add button for permissions in Data Manager set a displayHost
    • bug 798147 Switch to correct pref pane if pref window already open
    • bug 778534 Use image instead of html:img in instant messaging
  • Working on:
    • Various SM Council documents.
    • bug 606683 Allow customization of toolbar in Composer and MailNews Composition
    • bug 639690 [META] Re-arrange code between editor and editorOverlay
    • bug 773979 [META] Switch to new drag and drop api in SeaMonkey
    • bug 657234 Move pasteQuote and pasteNoFormatting into contentAreaContextOverlay
    • File/Folder selection in windows.
  • To Do:
    • bug 639395 Get cmd_fontSize to reflect current state of selected content / content at caret.
    • Prefs-in-a-tab.
    • Create FAQ for Friends of the Fish Tank.
    • Help get composer standalone builds working with --enable-tests.








Fixed on mozilla-central:

  • bug 907904 Fix string API abuse in JarSignatureVerification.cpp.

Needs to land on comm-central:

  • bug 908141 Password manager does not work on script-generated forms.
  • bug 907406 Check to see whether spelling has been turned off.
  • bug 909263 Undefined references to nsMemory in external API builds.

Would be nice on comm-beta:

  • bug 898781 Opening new tab sometimes causes exceptions in WindowsPreviewPerTab.jsm.
  • bug 899104 "Open all in tabs" from a private browsing window opens tabs in main window instead.
  • bug 868486 Session restore logic appears broken in Browser preference pane.

Waiting for review:

  • bug 910899 Inconsistent references to plugin placeholder elements.

Working on:

  • bug 891904 Turning spellcheck off and on again in an unusual way leaves it in an unusable state.
  • bug 906920 Implement additional toolkit features in XPFE autocomplete widget.

Poking at:

  • bug 514173 Make string literal buffers shareable.


Instead you can view the web console remotely once you enable the built-in debugger. Now with preliminary review, and waiting on full review.



Fixed but waiting for checkin (CLOSED TREE):

  • bug 258361 replace XUL_NAMESPACE with XUL_NS.
  • bug 896384 Follow up to bug 881083 "Validate this page".
  • bug 900510 Show download progress in OS X app dock icon and simplify taskbar integration.
  • bug 906083 [AMO Integration] Update links to

Working on:

  • bug 58986 The Find dialog should show autocompete with recent searches.
  • bug 900514 Some minor tweaks to Drag and Drop in Downloads UI.
  • bug 876430 Update Dataman for changes in DOMStorage and localStorage.
  • bug 911768 Fix "yield without a value is deprecated, and illegal in ES6" warnings in Suite.

Other stuff:

  • Did some reviews.
  • Bug triage and Bug discussions.
  • Usual end user support and PR in newsgroups and Mozillazine.






Any other business?

  • Who is going where for the Mozilla Summit 2013?
    • Brussels: Callek, IanN, mcsmurf, Mnyromyr, Neil.
      • Tonymec lives in Brussels but won't be at the Summit due to Paris/Brussels mixup. Welcome to any Sea Monkeys at his home or in a pub in town!
    • Santa Clara: KaiRo, Ratty.