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SeaMonkey Meeting Details


  • Who's taking minutes? -> mcsmurf
  • Nominees for Friends of the Fish Tank:
    • -

Action Items

(who needs to do what that hasn't been recorded in a bug) We should assign people to the open items.


  • bug 998807 Sync account creation or device pairing fails with exception in BrowserIDManager needs an owner


  • has not been updated since November 2012, the last version listed is 2.14 (bug 956561); move blog to if possible Assigned: mcsmurf.
    • Mcsmurf says that it looks like we might be getting a blog on
    • KaiRo will do some DNS magic to get it mirrored at
    • Ratty managed to get Kerz's contact address but totally forgot to follow this up yet.


Status of the SeaMonkey Buildbot Master and Tree

  • Callek has been working on migrating our Linux builders to CentOS 6 bug 795354. Puppetmaster has been updated. Ewong is able to login to these hosts and buildbot is installed. We still need to get everything setup for parity and do some slight tweaks to the puppet config, but we're pretty close to useable.
    • with the merge, this issue will now affect the 2.27 beta releases for Linux
  • bug 983536 libpango version >= 1.22.0 required on Linux.
  • bug 977676 SeaMonkey's puppet broken due to requirement of ffxbld ldap password.
  • bug 1008596 wrong extension branches are used on aurora, patch is ready
  • Python has been updated on all buildboxen!
  • We are perma-orange on comm-central, comm-aurora and comm-beta due to problems with tests
    • Windows en-US builds are being successfully compiled but tests are not working due to a dependency on python 2.7.3.
    • bug 908090 ImportError: No module named json, on SeaMonkey Linux/Windows (all) test runs, due to (still) using Python 2.5. We do have python 2.7 installed but our build system is picking up python 2.5 instead.
      • ewong's patch is waiting for review. It was manually patched on the master; but, was reverted and the buildmaster was reconfigured and so the changes are gone. Need to have the patch pushed officially in order for this bug to be fixed.
    • pymake is failing with "invalid syntax" again because of an outdated Python.
    • Priority on fixing this and l10n repacks after 2.24 release.(No ETA yet)
    • bug 943740 is tracking the progress (or lack of one) in building trunk and aurora on Linux & Mac from the downloading user's POV. (Windows nightlies are still appearing on schedule — or were until a day or two ago.)
  • No langpacks since 29th August on trunk. Needs investigating.
    • Windows and Mac trunk langpacks directories have been removed on the FTP server, maybe for lack of recent XPIs (later than 2.20a1). Latest Linux langpacks are dated 29 August. Callek told Tonymec on IRC he has a hunch about why but more pressing things to do first.
    • In Bug 902876 Comment 12 Mcsmurf is waiting for feedback from the build team on how to proceed.
  • Buildmaster is up and running.
    • Callek is hand-approving requests for CLOSED TREE landings at the moment.
    • Due to the master having some mysql issues, Callek has put a halt on the mysql updates, which affects the tbpl. So nothing is showing in tbpl atm.
  • comm-* will be building out of mozilla-* (bug 648979 etc.). Jcrammer has mostly completed the coding. Next step is consultation with mozilla-central build peers on landing the patches and also getting implicit permission to add several new top level directories to mozilla-central.

Fixed Stuff Since Last Meeting

Release Train

  • SeaMonkey 2.26 final was released on May 2.
  • SeaMonkey 2.27 beta 1 is not scheduled yet. (likely depends on bug 983536 libpango version >= 1.22.0 required on Linux)
  • Useful Firefox Release Schedule link: Releases Scheduling

Extensions and Plugins Compatibility Tracking

2.x (Last, Current, Next)

  • [From a previous meeting:] There is a problem with the metrics server, so no current data is available
  • See Basics page for the usual reminders.


open tracking (0) tracking requests (0) targeted (0) fixed (8)


  • Fixed since the last meeting:
    • bug 1008596 No SeaMonkey 2.28a2 nightly aurora builds, likely due to wrong relbranches in configuration. (resumed after bustage fix)
    • bug 901332 Google CalDAV OAuth2 authentication dialog not shown in SeaMonkey
    • bug 943732 Port the new Character Encoding menu to SeaMonkey.
  • Current breakages:
    • bug 998807 Sync account creation or device pairing fails with exception in BrowserIDManager needs an owner
    • bug 995737 adapt seamonkey for the ab remote content policy change; use permission manager instead of address book property.
    • bug 998724 Feed preview is broken on SeaMonkey nightly [ASSIGNED].
  • Mozilla-central bugs that affect us:
    • Note: Please file bugs if you notice any landing on mozilla-central that might break us. Please don't depend on Ratty noticing such landings.
    • Our front end Sync UI needs to be updated as the old backend is going away in Gecko/Firefox 31. See: New Firefox Sync has landed in Firefox Nightly. Tracked in:
      • bug 998807 Sync account creation or device pairing fails with exception in BrowserIDManager.
      • bug 1003434 Add support for about:sync-progress.
    • A lot of these bugs are due to mozilla-central switching from synchronous APIs to Asynchronous APIs.
    • bug 566746 (asyncFormHistory) Form history should use asynchronous storage API. Tracked in:
      • bug 912031 Use Asynchronous FormHistory.jsm in place of nsIFormHistory2 in Suite.
    • bug 769764 move proxy resolution to separate thread and remove sync api. Tracked in:
      • MailNews bug 791645 Rewrite calls to synchronous nsIProtocolProxyService::DeprecatedBlockingResolve with Async code before DeprecatedBlockingResolve disappears as well.
    • bug 793634 Force builds to be compatible with gtk 2.18/glib 2.22. Tracked in:
    • bug 795144 default --disable-gnomeui icon theme support
      • porting bug needed for the two changesets? Changes could be folded into bug 794772 above. *** IanN and Ewong are looking into this..
    • bug 627699 Port GTK2 to GTK3. Tracked in:
      • bug 882036 Port GTK2 to GTK3 - SeaMonkey Part.
      • A Red Hat person seems to be working on the GTK3 integration.
    • bug 846635 Use asynchronous getCharsetForURI in getShortcutOrURI. bug 834543 Add asynchronous version of setCharsetForURI and getCharsetForURI. Tracked in:
      • bug 896947 Use asynchronous version of setCharsetForURI and getCharsetForURI in getShortcutOrURI and other places.
    • bug 825588 Asynchronous JavaScript API for downloads and bug 851471 Decommission nsIDownloadManager. Tracked in:
      • bug 888915 Move SeaMonkey to the new JavaScript API for downloads when nsIDownloadManager is decommissioned.

Bugs: Low Hanging Fruit

Not necessarily Good First Bugs but minor fixes that shouldn't need advanced coding skills.

  • bug 1996(longdesc) Support LONGDESC for IMG (Was WONTFIXed but is now back on the standards track).
  • bug 795002 Improve detection of valid feed urls in messengerdnd.js (Port relevant bits of bug 737115).
  • bug 812050 [modern] some dialog boxes clipped at the bottom. Need to add commonDialog.css to Modern.
  • bug 986889 sidebarOverlay.js#1653 should be using urlLit, not titleLit. (One line typo fix)
  • bug 992656 Deprecation warning on startup about 'Livermarks'.
  • bug 1000303 An empty about:sync-tabs page looks broken when there are no tabs available.

Good student projects:

  • bug 528229 Want pref to narrow down quick search box to match sender only or all addresses.
    • We should probably port the Thunderbird quick filter.
  • bug 462629 Cannot access MIME-type and file associations in new Helper Applications pane.
  • Tabbed Browsing Enhancements:

Needs investigation/QA wanted?

  • bug 986816 when starting with mail window: some contents missing. (Intermittent bug).
  • bug 986874 Message pane opens by itself after selecting a junk mail message item.
  • bug 988599 new email window displays prior composed email.
  • bug 999863 Right Click->Delete in Bookmarks menu has no effect
    • Workaround: set mail.compose.max_recycled_windows to 0.
  • bug 990450 Update Seamonkey: Existing proxy settings lost.

Feature List, Planning

Bug statistics for the last two (full) weeks: 44 new, 2 fixed, 15 triaged.

  • Low triaging effort.

Open reviews/flags: 29 review 6 super-review 4 ui-review 6 feedback

  • See Feature List page for major wanted/needed features.
  • SeaMonkey needs a debugger for its chrome code. Jez couldn't continue work on bug 613974 because he couldn't figure out a way to debug Seamonkey's JS. He suggest Firebug be modified to allow remote debugging of Seamonkey (bug 1006466). Bare minimum, have a good tutorial about how to debug Seamonkey chrome from Firefox (couldn't get that to work either) and link it from various Seamonkey developer pages.
    • We had some discussion in the meeting if we should look at porting/including the Firefox devtools or rather look into bundling Firebug 2.0
  • TODO: We will need to update our Sync UI code due to the new Sync API. Also we need to check if we are allowed to create FX accounts from our UI Since the new Sync accounts are FX accounts.[IanN] I'm sure I saw a question about FX accounts and branding.

Modern Theme rework (Patrick Dempsey)

Patrick Dempsey in concentrating on paid work at the moment.

Attachment Reminders

Suyash Agarwal is working on attachment reminders to SeaMonkey MailNews. bug 984016 Attachment Reminder: Help prevent forgetting inclusion of attachments (Port TB bug 244455)

Roundtable - Personal Status Updates

Status Updates from developers - what are you working on, what's the progress, any other comments? (feel free to add yourself to the list if your name is missing and you have interesting status).





  • Usual testing, reviewing and commenting.
  • Fixed on comm-aurora:
    • bug 1008596 No SeaMonkey 2.28a2 nightly aurora builds, likely due to wrong relbranches in configuration
  • Pending check in:
  • Checked in pending review:
  • Waiting for feedback/review:
    • bug 837408 Add en-GB locale to gaia
    • bug 1008596 No SeaMonkey 2.28a2 nightly aurora builds, likely due to wrong relbranches in configuration
  • Fixing review comments before checkin:
    • bug 757230 When using add button for permissions in Data Manager set a displayHost
    • bug 798147 Switch to correct pref pane if pref window already open
  • Working on:
    • bug 943335 [TB] Update icons used in searchplugins (Yahoo, eBay, Wikipedia, Amazon, Bing, Twitter)
    • Various SM Council documents.
    • bug 606683 Allow customization of toolbar in Composer and MailNews Composition
    • bug 639690 [META] Re-arrange code between editor and editorOverlay
    • bug 773979 [META] Switch to new drag and drop api in SeaMonkey
    • bug 657234 Move pasteQuote and pasteNoFormatting into contentAreaContextOverlay
    • File/Folder selection in windows.
  • To Do:
    • bug 639395 Get cmd_fontSize to reflect current state of selected content / content at caret.
    • Prefs-in-a-tab.
    • Create FAQ for Friends of the Fish Tank.
    • Help get composer standalone builds working with --enable-tests.





  • Did some stuff, but no summary of that work yet :)




Needs checkin, waiting for tree to "open":

Needs checkin and aurora uplift:

Needs checkin and aurora and beta uplift:

  • bug 1008835 Unable to defer a new account to the Global Inbox.
  • bug 998171 Stale icons show up in Aero Peek.

Needs partial beta backout:

Fixed on mozilla-central:

  • bug 514280 NS_GET_IID can be used on classes which don't actually declare their own IID.

Working on:

Waiting for review:

Waiting for review and aurora uplift:

Still waiting for review:

  • bug 794749 Separator positions are not remembered in the 3-pane window's vertical view.

Stalled due to broken test:



Working on:

  • bug 1001071 XBLify folder-selection menus in the FilterListDialog and SearchDialog.xul.
  • bug 1005679 Remove cruft from the viewLog dialog and and bring it up to spec.
  • Some minor updates to .

Other stuff:

  • Did some reviews.
  • Bug triage and Bug discussions.
  • Usual end user support and PR in newsgroups and Mozillazine.


Waiting for reviews:

  • bug 994093 Provide toggle for Geolocation service (geo.enabled) in Privacy & Security preference pane,
  • bug 998787 Remove redundant "Don't Share" option from Geolocation doorhanger notification.
  • bug 173465 Add UI for mail/news "network.protocol-handler.external..." preferences.

Working on:

  • bug 844098 Update about:rights content for Safe Browsing based on Toolkit bug 514817 and separate inline scripts.
  • bug 1009233 Help on mail account settings for authentication method needs updating.


  • bug 1008596 No SeaMonkey 2.28a2 nightly aurora builds, likely due to wrong relbranches in configuration.


  • Bug triage, testing, and commenting for SeaMonkey and MailNews Core.
  • End-user information and discussion on MozillaZine.




Working on bug 1008725 /suite/installer/ needs to handle lack of mapi files when --disable-mapi is used


Any other business?


  • [jez] What kind of extra contributors are we actually looking for? Ones to fix bugs that are listed above, or ones to do interface overhauls that would be seen by many SM users as undesirable, superflouous distractions?
  • [Ratty] KaiRo reminded us that we need to grow our contributor community. I'm not sure where we could discuss this. I have no idea on how to do this. Perhaps we can get some Engagement experts from Mozilla to give us some suggestions?
    • [IanN] might have a chat with some people and see if they can point me in the right direction.
  • Talked about NTLM auth failing in MailNews, see bug 1008855 Authentication via NTLM fails in TB30 beta, did work in TB29 beta