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SeaMonkey Meeting Details


  • Who's taking minutes? -> mcsmurf
  • Nominees for Friends of the Fish Tank:

Action Items

(who needs to do what that hasn't been recorded in a bug) We should assign people to the open items.


  • has not been updated since November 2012, the last version listed is 2.14 (bug 956561); move blog to if possible Assigned: mcsmurf.
    • Mcsmurf says that it looks like we might be getting a blog on
    • KaiRo will do some DNS magic to get it mirrored at
    • bug 973886 for creating the blog account
  • bug 998807 Sync account creation or device pairing fails with exception in BrowserIDManager
    • mcsmurf will look into this


Status of the SeaMonkey Buildbot Master and Tree

  • Buildmaster is up and running.
    • Due to the master having some mysql issues, Callek has put a halt on the mysql updates, which affects the tbpl. So nothing is showing in tbpl atm.
  • comm-* will be building out of mozilla-* (bug 648979 etc.). Jcrammer has completed the coding. The decision to merge c-c into m-c has been kicked down the road into the next quarter or two.
  • Migrating our Linux builders to CentOS 6 bug 795354. Puppetmaster has been updated. Ewong is able to login to these hosts and buildbot is installed. We still need to get everything setup for parity and do some slight tweaks to the puppet config, but we're pretty close to useable.
    • 2.28 beta and final will depend on build system working again for Gecko 31.0
    • bug 983536 libpango version >= 1.22.0 required on Linux.
    • bug 977676 SeaMonkey's puppet broken due to requirement of ffxbld ldap password.
    • bug 943740 is tracking the progress (or lack of one) in building trunk and aurora on Linux & Mac from the downloading user's POV.
  • Python has been updated on all buildboxen!
    • bug 908090 ImportError: No module named json, on SeaMonkey Linux/Windows (all) test runs, due to (still) using Python 2.5. We do have python 2.7 installed but our build system is picking up python 2.5 instead.
  • We are perma-orange on comm-central, comm-aurora and comm-beta due to problems with tests
    • Windows en-US builds are being successfully compiled but tests are not working due to a dependency on python 2.7.3.
    • pymake has been discontinued. We need to install the latest Mozilla-build and tooltool on our windows builders.
  • No langpacks since 29th August on trunk. Needs investigating.
    • Windows and Mac trunk langpacks directories have been removed on the FTP server, maybe for lack of recent XPIs (later than 2.20a1). Latest Linux langpacks are dated 29 August. Callek told Tonymec on IRC he has a hunch about why but more pressing things to do first.
    • In Bug 902876 Comment 12 Mcsmurf is waiting for feedback from the build team on how to proceed.
  • In Progress: bug 1029513 Stop building Venkman because bug 800200 removed JSD1 which Venkman depends on.

Fixed Stuff Since Last Meeting

  • bug 1019021 SeaMonkey make package doesn't package things needed to run for .. in .. loops that iterate over the content window object.

Release Train

  • Callek plans to have at least one 2.28 beta as soon as we get the Linux builders up. But no ETA yet.
    • SeaMonkey 2.28 beta 1 has not been scheduled yet.
  • Useful Firefox Release Schedule link: Releases Scheduling

Extensions and Plugins Compatibility Tracking

2.x (Last, Current, Next)

  • [From a previous meeting:] There is a problem with the metrics server, so no current data is available
  • See Basics page for the usual reminders.


open tracking (0) tracking requests (1) targeted (0) fixed (30)


  • Stalled. Needs a kick.
    • bug 937809 Add DuckDuckGo to the default search engines list.
    • bug 815954 Click-to-Play: Port bug 812562 (click-to-play blocklisted plugins: reshow urlbar notification as with normal click-to-play).
    • bug 476108 GetShortPathNameW fails under some NTFS junctions [patchlove].
  • Fixed since the last meeting:
    • bug 1027241 Import nsICMS* from Gecko to Thunderbird to fix bustage caused by their removal from Gecko.
  • Current breakages:
    • bug 998807 Sync account creation or device pairing fails with exception in BrowserIDManager needs an owner
    • bug 995737 adapt seamonkey for the ab remote content policy change; use permission manager instead of address book property.
    • notifications/doorhangers not showing: bug 1019583 offline apps, quietly accepting requests (partially fixed)
  • Mozilla-central bugs that affect us:
    • Our front end Sync UI needs to be updated as the old backend is going away in Gecko/Firefox 31. See: New Firefox Sync has landed in Firefox Nightly. Tracked in:
      • bug 998807 Sync account creation or device pairing fails with exception in BrowserIDManager.
      • bug 1003434 Add support for about:sync-progress.
    • A lot of these bugs are due to mozilla-central switching from synchronous APIs to Asynchronous APIs.
    • bug 566746 (asyncFormHistory) Form history should use asynchronous storage API. Tracked in:
      • bug 912031 Use Asynchronous FormHistory.jsm in place of nsIFormHistory2 in Suite.
    • bug 769764 move proxy resolution to separate thread and remove sync api. Tracked in:
      • MailNews bug 791645 Rewrite calls to synchronous nsIProtocolProxyService::DeprecatedBlockingResolve with Async code before DeprecatedBlockingResolve disappears as well.
    • bug 793634 Force builds to be compatible with gtk 2.18/glib 2.22. Tracked in:
    • bug 795144 default --disable-gnomeui icon theme support
      • porting bug needed for the two changesets? Changes could be folded into bug 794772 above. *** IanN and Ewong are looking into this..
    • bug 846635 Use asynchronous getCharsetForURI in getShortcutOrURI. bug 834543 Add asynchronous version of setCharsetForURI and getCharsetForURI. Tracked in:
      • bug 896947 Use asynchronous version of setCharsetForURI and getCharsetForURI in getShortcutOrURI and other places.
    • bug 825588 Asynchronous JavaScript API for downloads and bug 851471 Decommission nsIDownloadManager. Tracked in:
      • bug 888915 Move SeaMonkey to the new JavaScript API for downloads when nsIDownloadManager is decommissioned.

Feature List, Planning

Bug statistics for the last two (full) weeks: 14 new, 10 fixed, 15 triaged.

  • Low triaging effort.

Open reviews/flags: 30 review 6 super-review 4 ui-review 6 feedback

  • See Feature List page for major wanted/needed features.
  • TODO: We will need to update our Sync UI code due to the new Sync API. Also we need to check if we are allowed to create FX accounts from our UI Since the new Sync accounts are FX accounts.[IanN] I'm sure I saw a question about FX accounts and branding.

Roundtable - Personal Status Updates

Status Updates from developers - what are you working on, what's the progress, any other comments? (feel free to add yourself to the list if your name is missing and you have interesting status).




  • Fixed:
    • bug 1013674 - Port |Bug 1011352 - Add a MOZ_AUTOMATION environment to all builds| to SeaMonkey production.
    • bug 1030016 - Port |Bug 598615 - HAVE_64BIT_OS changed to HAVE_64BIT_BUILD| to SeaMonkey
    • bug 1031960 - installer/package-manifest:139: Missing file(s): /
  • To be Checked-in:
  • Review:
    • bug 840427 - Migrate SeaMonkey builders to using mock
    • bug 853720 - After bug 827446, SeaMonkey doesn't know mozcrash.
    • bug 922076 - Switch tests to using and manifests
    • bug 956007 - Remove front end for removed x-user-def font preferences
    • bug 1021370 - Bug 1016622 changed the name of seer to Predictor. browser-prefs.js needs to be changed.
    • bug 1029513 - Stop building Venkman because Bug 800200 removes JSD1 which Venkman depends on.
  • Working On:
    • bug 110904 - attach signature fails silently on bad paths
    • bug 507676 - Port |Bug 435804 - Remaining rdf cleanup for FilterListDialog| to SeaMonkey
    • bug 837649 - [Tracking Bug] Stop OSX 10.5 support for SeaMonkey project
    • bug 837650 - Stop support for OSX 10.5 in suite/ tree
    • bug 863747 - Add option to disable Location bar history
    • bug 918474 - Default Search dropdown doesn't get refreshed after adding new search engine


  • Usual testing, reviewing and commenting.
  • Contributed to fixing:
    • bug 1027241 Import nsICMS* from Gecko to MailNews Core to fix bustage caused by their removal from Gecko
  • Pending check in:
  • Checked in pending review:
  • Waiting for feedback/review:
  • Fixing review comments before checkin:
    • bug 757230 When using add button for permissions in Data Manager set a displayHost
    • bug 798147 Switch to correct pref pane if pref window already open
  • Working on:
    • bug 943335 [TB] Update icons used in searchplugins (Yahoo, eBay, Wikipedia, Amazon, Bing, Twitter)
    • Various SM Council documents.
    • bug 606683 Allow customization of toolbar in Composer and MailNews Composition
    • bug 639690 [META] Re-arrange code between editor and editorOverlay
    • bug 773979 [META] Switch to new drag and drop api in SeaMonkey
    • bug 657234 Move pasteQuote and pasteNoFormatting into contentAreaContextOverlay
    • File/Folder selection in windows.
  • To Do:
    • bug 639395 Get cmd_fontSize to reflect current state of selected content / content at caret.
    • Prefs-in-a-tab.
    • Create FAQ for Friends of the Fish Tank.
    • Help get composer standalone builds working with --enable-tests.







Fixed on comm-central (haven't got around to branch landings yet, sorry):

  • bug 1016132 Stop mutating the prototype of extApplication.prototype.
  • bug 825127 about:memory in Modern includes old CSS version.
  • bug 1021615 Customise dialog doesn't display toolbar style after changing toolbar style preference back to full.
  • bug 934492 Adjust the preference panes for the removal of the charset data source.
  • bug 1018256 Fix Save and Change Character Encoding dialog.
  • bug 1018263 Selection list properties dialog doesn't work properly.

Fixed on dom-inspector:

  • bug 368608 Fix DOM Inspector after removal of inIFlasher.

Backed out on comm-central:

  • bug 970121 URL bar isn't decoded in some edge cases.

Needs checkin (forgot to check in due to oversight on my part):

Needs beta checkin (haven't got around to branch landings yet, sorry):

  • bug 1020630 Content permission doorhanger/notification doesn't work.

Needs help with review (packaging/installer changes):

Needs review (aurora port):

  • bug 934492 Adjust the preference panes for the removal of the charset data source.

Still waiting for review:

  • bug 970993 Aero Peek rendering issues.
  • bug 553757 SMTP Server dialog doesn't fit after disabling SSL.

Reviews have been a bit slow this past fortnight, sorry to those affected, hopefully I'll be able to catch up over the next couple of months.




  • bug 1023277 Dropdown for mail view selector: "All" an "Unread" without text instead of highlighted with IWN7-Basic and Aero Themes.
  • bug 1032800 Remove public destructors of NS_*_INLINE_* refcounted classes, Remove NS_HIDDEN, Fix dangerous public destructors.
  • bug 1032804 Classic Theme is missing dummy chome.manifest file (and icon.png, and preview.png).

Working on:

  • bug 817295 chrome directory missing in fresh profiles (again).
  • bug 973530 Add UI to access the remote debugger preferences.
  • bug 1034203 In about:certerror send the failed channel from the docshell to the Security Exceptions Dialog.
  • bug 1035237 The labels in the menulist items for the mail view selector don't line up vertically.
  • bug 1019383 Implement search-engine discovery notification.

Other stuff:

  • Did some reviews.
  • Bug triage and Bug discussions.
  • Usual end user support and PR in newsgroups and Mozillazine.


Waiting for check-in:

  • bug 1019986 Clarify "Don't Show" label in Desktop Notification bar and doorhanger.
  • bug 1009233 Help on mail account settings for authentication method needs updating.
  • bug 1019583 Part 2: Update Offline Web Applications preference pane.
  • bug 998787 Rename options in Geolocation doorhanger notification to disambiguate "Don't Share" vs. "Not Now".

Waiting for ui-review:

  • bug 1025569 Notifications for requests from Offline Web Applications offer beyond-session options in Private Browsing mode.


  • bug 994093 Provide toggle for Geolocation service (geo.enabled) in Privacy & Security preference pane.


  • bug 1032302 8BITMIME keyword ignored in EHLO greeting, BODY=8BITMIME absent in MAIL request for 8-bit transfers. (MailNews)


  • Bug triage, testing, and commenting for SeaMonkey and MailNews Core.
  • End-user information and discussion on MozillaZine.



Fixed bug 1012445 Implement NS_THEME_CHECKMENUITEM for Mac OS X.



Any other business?


  • [Ratty] KaiRo reminded us that we need to grow our contributor community. Perhaps we can get some Engagement experts from Mozilla to give us some suggestions?
    • [IanN] might have a chat with some people and see if they can point me in the right direction.