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SeaMonkey Meeting Details


  • Who's taking minutes?
  • Nominees for Friends of the Fish Tank:
    • TBD

Action Items

(who needs to do what that hasn't been recorded in a bug) We should assign people to the open items.



  • bug 1081726 Donation link on website needs to be change to point to SeaMonkey Paypal donation page. Blocked on mcsmurf getting a new CVS website account, looks like his old one has expired.
  • (bug 956561); move blog to [DONE]
    • Now live with new design and branding.
    • Some progress with the SSL certificate issue. With the certificate, things would work easier as mcsmurf wants to sync the blog with Facebook entries.
  • bug 998807 Sync account creation or device pairing fails with exception in BrowserIDManager
    • mcsmurf says he has a short term workaround for this.
  • bug 1057920 SeaMonkey's CVS dependency really should be removed. (currently used only for Releng Automation, and SeaMonkey Website).
    • IanN has had zero time in the last 2 weeks, preparing/having job interviews so no progress on this.


Status of the SeaMonkey Buildbot Master and Tree

  • Windows nightly trunk builds arewere running again briefly (thanks to Callek and Ewong) but are down again due to bug 1108970. Migrating our Windows builders to VS2013 would likely solve this and other bustages.
  • VS2010 support was removed from mozilla-central on 15th December (bug 1092468). Our Windows slaves are all Windows 2003 and VS2013 can't be installed on them. Callek says we have a good chance of getting our builders upgraded to Win2008. There is also some upcoming changes to L10n build system in Q1 2015 (bug 1107635).
  • Buildmaster is up and running, and produces en-US builds, see 9/16 meeting's Friends of the Fish Tank. Builds and langpacks in 18 languages including en-US are available unofficially thanks to A.Kalla.
  • bug 1083689 Langpacks aren't updated when auto-updating SeaMonkey. The langpacks need strict versioning e.g. min 2.30 max 2.30.* which makes sense since you don't want 2.29 strings with 2.30. This is possibly a build config problem so we should check with Callek, ewong, or KaiRo.
    • The de and en-GB langpacks for 2.30 have:
      2.22 had:
  • Due to the master having some mysql issues, Callek has put a halt on the mysql updates, which affects the tbpl. So nothing is showing in tbpl atm.
  • [9th December 2014]
    • Infrastructure issues
      • linux64 systems are still plagued by bug 1058385. Regular AWOLing. Currently 6 slaves are up.(-2, -3, -4, -6, -7, -13)
        • Callek says that he'll poke Mozilla IT about this.
      • NB: Currently the miscellaneous patches to fix the RelEng infra (tooltool are all applied to the master directly. Once reviewed, the patches will be pushed to their corresponding repositories and the master will be updated properly.
      • NB2: None of the test bustages are listed. Priority is currently set to get the builds running properly.
      • NB3: Build oranges are not mentioned. Read NB2.
      • On mozilla-central a win64 change has landed recently and switching to VS2013. SeaMonkey Windows builders are running Vista and VS 2013 has a minimum requirement of Windows 7.
    • [comm-central]
      • WinNT (debug/normal) busted : bug 1108970 - gfx/layers/d3d11/CompositorD3D11.cpp : Cannot open include file 'DXGI1_2.h': No such file or directory
      • l10n nightly/dep builds busted : bug 1073327 Fix waiting review.
      • blocklist update bustage : bug 1074572 Fix waiting review.
    • [comm-aurora]
      • blocklist update bustage : bug 1074572 Fix waiting review.
      • OSX64 l10n nightly/dep bustage : related to bug 902876
      • OSX64 bustage: atm, unsure what's busting this. tracked in bug 1090136
  • See RelEng page for the RelEng status history.
  • In Bug 902876 Comment 12 Mcsmurf is waiting for feedback from the build team on how to proceed.

Release Train

  • SeaMonkey 2.32b1 was released on
  • Holiday Beta Scheduling for Firefox. Due to impending US holidays Dec 25/26 & Jan 1 the following is an adjusted 35.0 beta schedule for the remaining weeks of this cycle:
    • Week 3 - Dec 15-19: Beta 4 (Desktop & Mobile) and Beta 5 (Desktop) build & ship as usual
    • Week 4 - Dec 22-26: Beta 6 (Desktop & Mobile) gtb on Monday Dec 22 as usual, ship on Tues Dec 23 - no further betas
    • Week 5 - Dec 29-Jan 2: Beta 8 (Desktop & Mobile) gtb on Monday Dec 29 as usual, ship on Tues Dec 30 - no further betas
    • Week 6 - Jan 5-9: Beta 10 (Mobile) and Desktop RC 35.0 gtb on Monday Jan 5th, ship on Tues Jan 6 to beta channels
  • Useful Firefox Release Schedule link: Releases Scheduling

Extensions and Plugins Compatibility Tracking

  • See Basics page. Please only list current changes here.
  • Addon Compatibility Listings
  • Firefox & Thunderbird Add-on Converter for SeaMonkey
    This tool goes a little further beyond simply modifying install.rdf - it also identifies a few more other things in the code that are Firefox or Thunderbird specific and attempts to change them. Of course, not all extensions can be ported so easily to SeaMonkey since there's only so much an automated tool like that can do.
    •  !This item should be moved to somewhere more permanent and discoverable!
  • New versions of Flashblock for Firefox and SeaMonkey have been released to address a regression caused by bug 1050049.
  • Current Lightning 3.6b1 builds offered on AMO don't work with the 2.31 release (bug 1081534, bug 1106034, bug 1107865)
  • The Thunderbird team is planning to ship Lightning with Thunderbird. IanN thinks we will want to ship lightning too. We should coordinate with Thunderbird.
  • Proposed replacement for Venkman for shipping with SeaMonkey: Tiny JavaScript Debugger. TinyJSD is a JavaScript debugger for privileged code running Mozilla products like Firefox, Thunderbird, SeaMonkey. It serves to debug the application as well as extensions written in JavaScript.
    • Consensus is that we should ship TJSD as a replacement for Venkman. The next step is to contact the author.
  • bug 957149 DOM Inspector 2.0.15 released on 12th December. Ratty took over from IanN and finished preparing DOMi 2.0.15 for release [1].
  • Our build team needs to automate DOMI branch selection rather than having to tweak the every 6 weeks. bug 763506

2.x (Last, Current, Next)


open tracking (0) tracking requests (7) targeted (0) fixed (11)


  • Stalled. Needs a kick.
    • bug 815954 Click-to-Play: Port bug 812562 (click-to-play blocklisted plugins: reshow urlbar notification as with normal click-to-play).
    • bug 476108 GetShortPathNameW fails under some NTFS junctions [patchlove].
  • Current breakages:
    • bug 998807 Sync account creation or device pairing fails with exception in BrowserIDManager needs an owner
    • bug 995737 adapt seamonkey for the address book remote content policy change; use permission manager instead of address book property.
  • Mozilla-central bugs that affect us:
    • Our front end Sync UI needs to be updated as the old backend is going away in Gecko/Firefox 31. See: New Firefox Sync has landed in Firefox Nightly. Tracked in:
      • bug 998807 Sync account creation or device pairing fails with exception in BrowserIDManager.
      • bug 1003434 Add support for about:sync-progress.
    • A lot of these bugs are due to mozilla-central switching from synchronous APIs to Asynchronous APIs.
    • bug 566746 (asyncFormHistory) Form history should use asynchronous storage API. Tracked in:
      • bug 912031 Use Asynchronous FormHistory.jsm in place of nsIFormHistory2 in Suite.
    • bug 769764 move proxy resolution to separate thread and remove sync api. Tracked in:
      • MailNews bug 791645 Rewrite calls to synchronous nsIProtocolProxyService::DeprecatedBlockingResolve with Async code before DeprecatedBlockingResolve disappears as well.
    • bug 825588 Asynchronous JavaScript API for downloads and bug 851471 Decommission nsIDownloadManager. Tracked in:
      • bug 888915 Move SeaMonkey to the new JavaScript API for downloads when nsIDownloadManager is decommissioned.

Feature List, Planning

Bug statistics for the last two (full) weeks: 29 new, 6 fixed, 15 triaged.

  • Medium triaging effort, average number of new bugs filed.
  • IanN thinks it would be useful to remind people on the newsgroups / forums that they can contribute by triaging. Tonymec will post a reminder to newsgroups / forums. See bug 1092632 (Sm_tri_HowTo) Document how to triage SeaMonkey bugs.

Open reviews/flags: 30 review 5 super-review 3 ui-review 6 feedback

  • See Feature List page for major wanted/needed features.
  • TODO: We will need to update our Sync UI code due to the new Sync API. Also we need to check if we are allowed to create FX accounts from our UI Since the new Sync accounts are FX accounts.[IanN] I'm sure I saw a question about FX accounts and branding. Callek was going to ask about being able to use Firefox accounts.

Roundtable - Personal Status Updates

Status Updates from developers - what are you working on, what's the progress, any other comments? (feel free to add yourself to the list if your name is missing and you have interesting status).













Working on:

  • bug 640420 Add draggable splitter between urlbar and searchbar.
  • bug 917725 Consolidate utils.js and PlacesUIUtils.jsm.
  • bug 1040910 Support XHTML in feed titles.

Waiting for review:

  • bug 1097818 Add search suggestions to the DuckDuckGo search engine.


  • bug 1098639 Arrow panels in SeaMonkey should not animate when opening.
  • bug 1110036 "Save As" stops working from "Page Info" > "Media" pane. Progress of downloading is 0% forever [Firefox].
  • bug 1106274 Go history menu items end up at the bottom of the menu and not between the startHistorySeparator and endHistorySeparator.
  • bug 1112690 Make the dialog for "Edit/New Attribute" Resizable.
  • bug 1114070 After bug 783829 PlacesUtils.nodeAncestors is now a new generator.

Other stuff:

  • Did some reviews.
  • Bug triage and Bug discussions.
  • Usual end user support and PR in newsgroups and Mozillazine.





Any other business?

  • bug 1006466 Fork Firebug and distribute it with SeaMonkey - jez is working on this ('NeoBug') - it should be bundled with SeaMonkey as a comprehensive replacement for Venkman, as every other browser of note bundles something like this! This is becoming urgent as Firebug 3 will not work with SeaMonkey (it has Firefox's devtools as a prerequisite).
  • Is SeaMonkey's tbpl working yet? If so, what URL is it at? - jez