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Meeting Details

  • 1:00pm Pacific time (20:00 UTC until November 2, 2008)
  • Mozilla HQ, 1st floor conference table
  • +1 650 903 0800 x91 Conf# 8600 (US/International)
  • +1 416 848 3114 x91 Conf# 8600 (Canada)
  • +1 800 707 2533 (pin 369) Conf# 8600 (US Toll Free)
  • join irc.mozilla.org #staffmeeting for backchannel

note: all participants are muted automatically; if you want to talk, press *1 to un-mute yourself

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Friends of the Tree Friends of the Tree

Chris Blizzard nominated Ehsan Akhgari for helping to make Private Browsing a reality: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=248970 https://wiki.mozilla.org/User:Ehsan/PrivateBrowsingForExtensions

Dan Portillo nominated Stas Malolepszy and Seth Bindernagel for helping to visual and present the data for the Summit Survey.

Please send FotT nominations to asa@mozilla.org. This is a great opportunity for the community to recognize those who go above and beyond, so please tell me when you see that happening. Thanks.

Development Updates

Fx 2->3 Major Update / Fx / Fx 3.0.2

Gecko 1.9.1

Firefox 3.1

TB 3

  • Thunderbird:Thunderbird3:Schedule
    • 3.0b1 string freeze this Tuesday (tomorrow) at 23:59 Pacific
    • 3.0b1 code freeze next Tuesday (2009-09-22) at 23:59 Pacific
    • note that both of the above freezes affect mail/, mailnews/, and editor/ui, but not Toolkit or Core
  • Looking for folks interested in helping with low-hanging user-experience win patches; ping clarkbw or dmose on IRC for more info


  • Working towards alpha release. Around 32 bugs remaining.
  • If you have a N8x0 device, we welcome you to test out Fennec and file bugs.


  • Continuing CDN Trials
    • Testing addons.mozilla.org behind CDNetworks bug 450745
  • Upcoming Hg/SVN/CVS downtime blog post

Release Engineering

  • FF2.0.0.17, FF3.0.2 being prepped for release tomorrow
  • TB2.0.0.17 handed to QA this morning
  • Work continues on rel-automation, mobile builds
  • downtimes last week helped talos rebooting
  • People in MV this week for graphserver work.
  • still hectic, but light at the end of the tunnel... (no train jokes allowed!)


Firefox and Thunderbird

Firefox 3.0.2

  • Shipped for Beta release. Verified bug fixes.

Firefox 3.1

  • Feature test development
    • Worked on CSS Transform tests [ctalbert]
    • Talked with Jonas about XHR tests [ctalbert]
    • Wrote Litmus testcases for the Location Bar [stephend]
    • Wrote test plan for addons updates and plugin blocklisting [tchung]
  • Test Plan reviews are in the works
    • Ctrl-Tab and XHR Testplan review completed
  • Accessibility: Lots and lots of JAWS 10 testing [marcoz]

WebDev Testing [stephend]

  • AMO: Continued work on 4.0.1. Began writing a Selenium testcase for the Developer Control Panel
  • SUMO: Verified the fixed bugs for 0.6.4
  • Graph Server: Verified bug fixes
  • Spread Firefox: Wrote a BFT

Test Dev/Automation

  • Adding a anonymous XPath inspector to allow specifying elements that are unnamed in the DOM to automated Gristmill tests [adam]
  • developed Mercurial bisect script for detecting changesets which regress or fix javascript tests [bc]


  • Preliminary work with Fennec (including N810 update and setup to Diablo) [abillings, timr]
  • Troubleshooting mochitest failures for fennec [ctalbert, jmaher]
  • Getting new test developer, jmaher, up to speed [ctalbert, jmaher]


  • Prepped for Seneca Dev Day presentations, with testing Tools track on Tuesday, Sept 16. [ctalbert, tomcat, timr]
    • Sessions include: xpcshell testing, mochitest testing, memleak testing
  • Planning continues for the Mozilla EU Camp (Oct 25).
  • QMO2 Beta is wrapping up. It is stages on Mozilla services
  • Accessibility: Participated in discussion on IAccessible2 group about certain implementation details of static text, spelling error attributes and other related issues.


no update


Consumer Research




  • Wiki page with the most common Firefox issues and feature requests we're seeing is up on the SUMO wiki.
  • The data primarily comes from Live Chat and the forum (we're still working on getting reliable poll stats from the Knowledge Base, which is an important part since it gives us quantifiable data).
  • The idea is that this will be shared with the people calling in to the SUMO meeting on Mondays so everyone gets a chance to sync up and provide missing info before it's shared with the rest of the world. :)



  • Mozilla Developer Center:
    • Planning underway for updating to the just-released MindTouch Deki 8.08 release, hopefully this week.
    • Continuing work on cleanup of remaining issues following the transition to Deki.
    • For a list of priority items we've asked MindTouch to address, see this list.
    • Documentation work for Firefox 3.1 is underway. Please make sure any developer-impacting changes are listed on the Firefox 3.1 for Developers page so we can be sure they get documented.
  • Asa working on his Rapid Response Team for Firefox 3.0.2 and planning for 3.1.

Mozilla Labs

  • Working on a Weave outreach plan, starting with light blogging and video interviews over the course of a month, before doing something more in-depth for the next big Weave release.
  • Ubiquity 0.1.2 (Raging Stream)

Webdev, Add-ons, AMO

  • Graph Server
    • We will be dumping all discrete data older than 60 days starting tomorrow. We will have a backup and won't be losing our continuous data, so we can always view old average data, just not individual tests.
      • Contact graphserver@mozilla.com if you have questions or problems with this
    • Push going out this week to add buildids and other fixes.
  • Socorro
    • 0.6 milestone set -- included are optimization of the PHP reporter and fixing topcrashers -- also working on documentation for refactored pieces and status pages.
  • AMO
  • SUMO
    • Code freeze for 0.6.4 was last week and push will happen Tuesday
    • CSAT work for articles on target for 0.7


Foundation Updates

  • Grants
    • The Mozilla Foundation is providing a $15K grant to support the work of Project:Possibility to get more students involved in open source accessibility software development.
    • Frank has a number of new grant/funding proposals under consideration, more in the coming weeks.
  • Other
    • Gerv is headed back to school, and will be cutting back on Mozilla-related activities during the school term.
    • Zak and Mark participated in the Open Everything retreat in British Columbia.


  • Firefox Licensing -- EULAs, FLOSS licenses, where we are and where we're heading
  • 2010 Goals -- general overview discussion
    • IRC channel #2010goals; I'll hang out there as much as possible for the next few weeks; anyone interested in the topic is more than welcome to do the same, to look for me or just for discussions.
    • Brown Bag discussion for this Wednesday September 17 at noon Pacific time. **We may have a group discussion at next week's Monday all hands meeting as well.
    • Further written discussions in m.o.governance; Mitchell will kick these off shortly

Other Business