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Meeting Details

  • 1:00pm Pacific time (20:00 UTC until November 2, 2008)
  • Mozilla HQ, 1st floor conference table
  • +1 650 903 0800 x91 Conf# 8600 (US/International)
  • +1 416 848 3114 x91 Conf# 8600 (Canada)
  • +1 800 707 2533 (pin 369) Conf# 8600 (US Toll Free)
  • join irc.mozilla.org #staffmeeting for backchannel

note: all participants are muted automatically; if you want to talk, press *1 to un-mute yourself

WeeklyUpdate Streaming Video & Podcast update

You can watch the weekly meetings live at Air Mozilla

I ran into another problem at the last meeting and wasn't able to post the on-demand video for people that missed the live stream. Will try again this week.

SUCCESS! Today's Weekly Update meeting is now available on-demand at http://air.mozilla.com/ Click the "Menu" button in the player, then "Browse on-demand library, open the Weekly status updates folder, and click on this week's meeting.

I'll try to make some changes to the player that make it easier to find these on-demand shows and, as always, please send your requests or suggestions to me at asa@mozilla.com.

Friends of the Tree Friends of the Tree

Reed Loden nominated Rob Arnold for writing his qimportbz script that helps make doing checkin-needed on Hg so much easier. http://robarnold.org/hg-qimport-my-bugzilla-patch/ has more information.

Brad Lassey nominated Antonio Gomes's wife for friend of the tree. Antonio's code contributions may have actually increased since she gave birth earlier this (last) week.

Asa nominates Carsten Book (Tomcat) from the Major Update rapid response team for getting things rolling so quickly on the Norton 360 sqlite locking problem (bug 452469.) Carsten asked that I add Mike Beltzner for being all over this one too.

Please send FotT nominations to asa@mozilla.org. This is a great opportunity for the community to recognize those who go above and beyond, so please tell me when you see that happening. Thanks.

Development Updates

Fx 2->3 Major Update / Fx / Fx 3.0.2

  • major update is rolling along well; now more users on Fx3 than Fx2
  • QA complete on
  • QA on track for 3.0.2 (after another respin)

Gecko 1.9.1

  • Meeting change notice: Platform meetings are now on Tuesdays at 11am PDT. See the Platform wiki page for more details.
  • Interesting queries related to Gecko 1.9.1
  • 16 1.9.1 blockers.
  • 123 wanted bugs
    • 21 P1s. These are bugs we feel would really, really make a good release if we had a solid handful completed.
    • 41 P2s. These are medium complexity bugs/changes that are nice to have.
    • 32 P3s. The lowest priority bugs for this release. These are the ones that we will definitely take, but the others take priority.

Firefox 3.1

  • not a lot of news
  • beta freeze sept 30
  • come one, come all to the development meeting tomorrow

TB 3



  • Completed Bugzilla 3.2 upgrade (two weeks ago)
    • Still working through regressions -- make sure all regressions are filed and are blocking bug bmo-regressions
  • Wrapping up kernel upgrades this week
  • Performing a few more RHEL5 upgrades this week

Release Engineering

  • 4 releases at the same time:
    • done: FF3.1a2, FF2.0.0x -> FF3.0.0 major update
    • FF2.0.0.17: build#2
    • FF3.0.2: build#5 :-(
  • clean rebootable mac talos slaves (24 machines); this *really* simplifies life for IT oncall and alice.
    • downtime for ubuntu (and vista?) this week.
  • housekeeping:


Firefox/Thunderbird 2.0.0.x [juanb]

  • tested 2.0.0. 17 - Bug fix verifications. L10n, update testing. Beta release is this week. [abillings, juanb, stephend]

Firefox 3.0.x [tomcat]

  • testing 3.0.2 - Smoketests, BFT's, bug fix verification. Final release is this week. [tomcat, abillings. juanb, marcia]
  • Helped with bug 434464. This fixed an important problem, especially for JAWS 10, which would have otherwise caused it to miss out on content on dynamic pages. Landed mochitests for this. [marcoz]
  • Major update -> 3.0.1 - Continued to investigate problems with Norton 360. Worked with Sumo team on this. Tested Null updates and localized update offer. [tomcat]

Firefox 3.1

  • Signed off Fx3.1 alpha 2 to betatesters this week. Test results here [tchung, marcia]
  • Feature testing:
    • Created a Testplan review schedule for the following features to be covered: Cross site XHR, Video, Ctrl Tab, Places, Awesomebar
    • Wrote test plan for CSS Transforms and met with Keith about it [ctalbert]
    • Wrote test plan for XHR [ctalbert]
    • Tested the Acid 3 area and verified the bug fixes. [tomcat]
    • Automated Global 500 tests completed for the Mac platform. Analyzing the results. [tomcat]
  • Setup Litmus test suite for 3.1 along with "test run". Thanks coop! [tracy, marcia]
  • Accessibility: Created new Mochitests for various areas of the a11y code, see bug 452769 for example. Implemented and landed the new aria-label property, see bug 453417. Unlike aria-labelledby, which creates an accessible name from a different page element, aria-label can take any arbitrary text, much like the @alt attribute for the img tag. [marcoz]

Webdev Testing - verified bug fixes for AMO 4.0.1, Sumo 0.6.3 and 0.7, and Graph server. [stephend]


  • Ran mochitests on mobile fennec desktop build: 20,195 Tests Passed, 316 Tests Failed, 682 Todo's [talbert]


  • A "triple release" test day was held on Friday. 215 test cases were run! See Results.
  • Preparing for the QA testing session at the Seneca Dev Days Sept 15-16. [tomcat, ctalbert]
  • Planning continues for the QA track at the Mozilla EU Camp in October. [marcia]
  • QMO2: Development continues on layout and themes. Work-in-progress can be seen here. Worked with IT to setup a staged server. We're on track for a beta release at the end of the month. Checked in code to SVN including Paul C's new Bugzilla Dashboard module. [jay, paulc]


  • Welcome new employee: Joel Maher
  • Put JAWS 10 public beta 1 through its paces and blogged about it. A lot of reports, questions and details going back and forth on e-mail over this testing.
  • We had a series of trest tool presentations the Week of Aug 25th. These included basic test development using on reftest, mochitest, gristmill. Along with creating simplified test cases for JS and how to use the Bugzilla drupal; modules. Let us know if you would like to see any of these training sessions.



Consumer Research

  • A six question user survey, housed on mozilla-europe.org, will be released with 3.0.2 and and visible on the "what's new page" for FF2 and FF3.
  • It will be shown to 10% of users in 10 locales. Locales to be surveyed include: UK, France, China, Japan, Poland, Brazil, Russia, US, Italy, and Germany.
  • The goal is for this survey to be released quarterly to track user attitudes and product satisfaction.



  • BarCamp Bangalore, Sept 13 - 14, Bangalore, India: Mozilla is helping sponsor. A Firefox Indic 110n session has been proposed.
  • Firefox Sinhala Teachers Workshop series hosted by Danishka Navin: Taking place throughout September in Sri Lanka. Great work, Danishka!
  • Events Triage call: Please join us for our bi-weekly events triage call Wednesday at 10 a.m. PDT. Dial-in is 650-903-0800, ext 91, id 248 or 800-707-2533, password 369, ext 91, id 248 and #events on irc.mozilla.org.

Search Engine Marketing

  • We recently blogged about some experiment findings that will help us better optimize some of our search marketing campaigns. For example, we found that it's less expensive to acquire new Fx users on Wednesdays, relative to other days of the week. More experiment findings will be posted later this week.



  • No major news to announce, but we should point out that our worldwide market share continues to hover around 20%. Last month's number was 19.73% and last week's Fx share was 19.78%.


  • Fixed a number of issues with Dromaeo, launched v2 with DOM tests. Browser vendors are actively using it and submitting feedback.
  • Sheppy speaking at world wide wiki conference talking about Deki + our wikis at Mozilla
  • Lots of Chrome feedback on standards, performance and positioning

Mozilla Labs

  • Ubiquity out. Released our first patch. Over a thousand commands from 3rd parties. Working on the Herd.

Webdev, Add-ons, AMO

  • Socorro
    • Collector, Processor and Monitor updated to support server-side throttling
    • PHP version of Reporter was pushed - aggregate queries for smaller date ranges working now, working on clean-up and optimization next
  • AMO performance release (4.0.1) entering second week
    • working on improved caching policy
    • better shadow database management
    • optimization of front page and details pages
  • SUMO update last Tuesday to push 0.6 bugs (see meeting notes for more info)
  • Graph server
    • Significant performance improvements.
    • Small release today with bug fixes and another release next week
    • Thanks for everyone who offered feedback for requirements
    • See meeting notes for more info


Foundation Updates

  • Grants
    • The Mozilla Foundation will be a sponsor of the Free Culture 2008 conference (October 11-12, Berkeley CA). (John Lilly will be doing a keynote on the first day of this conference.)
    • The Mozilla Foundation is funding a project by Thomas Logan to investigate WAI-ARIA conformance among various browsers and assistive technology products and create training videos to teach web developers how to implement ARIA correctly.
    • Wellington Fernando de Macedo continued work on his Foundation-funded project to add support for server-sent DOM events and now has a patch in bug 338583 being reviewed.
  • Public communications
    • David continued www.mozilla.org archiving, redirect, and bug triage work, hosted a www.mozilla.org planning meeting, and worked with John Slater on evaluating possible vendors for a proposed www.mozilla.org site redesign.
    • David posted a print quality version of the Mozilla brochure for those who'd like to print their own copies, and opened bug 453528 for localizing the brochure.
  • Other
    • Gerv continued work on bugzilla.mozilla.org reorganization and other proposed changes to b.m.o.
    • Gerv worked on reducing spam problems with the Hendrix feedback site.
    • David blogged about the Mozilla Foundation and platform developers.
    • Frank worked with Mark Surman on preparation for Mark's formal start date later this month.


Intern update: Akira Yoshihara - QA test development

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