SeaMonkey/StatusMeetings/2015-09-29

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SeaMonkey Meeting Details

• Time: 29 September, 2015, 12:00 UTC
  • (8am Eastern, 1pm UK, 2pm Central Europe, 8pm Hong Kong)
• Location: #seamonkey IRC channel
• Further Read: Basics

Agenda

• Who's taking minutes? -> TBD
• Nominees for Friends of the Fish Tank:
  • TBD

Action Items

(who needs to do what that hasn't been recorded in a bug) We should assign people to the open items.

NEW

• Need to port Sync 2.0 to SeaMonkey - IanN has spoken briefly to ewong about options, Ratty might be able to help too.

OPEN

• bug 1198340 The carousel within Add-On Manager can be used for SeaMonkey specific content. TO DO: Find out what sort of format AMO needs for the carousel. Get our webdev person to create necessary content. Submit content for upload to AMO.
  • Unfortunately nobody knows exactly how addons.mozilla.works because there's no full time developer working on AMO. Ratty was given bug 1009759 as an example. So now we need someone who knows python+django.
• bug 1121281 tracks the RelEng automation migration off CVS. Everything is now in a single repo, patches for using that new repo are awaiting a review from Callek.

CLOSED

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Status of the SeaMonkey Buildbot Master and Tree

• Notes:
  • Windows nightly trunk builds are unavailable due to various bugs such as bug 1092468 and bug 1108970. Migrating our Windows builders to Win2008 and our compiler toolchain to VS2013 would likely solve this and other bustages.
  • There are also some upcoming changes to L10n build system in Q1 2015 (bug 1107635).
  • Buildmaster is up and running, and produces en-US builds, see 9/16 meeting's Friends of the Fish Tank. Builds and langpacks in 18 languages including en-US are available unofficially thanks to A.Kalla.
  • bug 1083689 Langpacks aren't updated when auto-updating SeaMonkey because they aren't uploaded to AMO. The solution requires changes in SeaMonkey RelEng (and possibly AMO).
  • For various reasons we don't have a working SeaMonkey Treeherder.
  • wrt bug 1155011, we already have a Soccoro token. The patches on bug 1155013 require approval and then pushed and the work-around patches backed out.
• [29th September 2015]
  • All trees:
    • Windows platform still busted due to needing Win2008R2 installed.
    • We have a loaner which ewong is working on (see blog for more information).
  • comm-central to comm-beta:
    • Linux*: Busted due to bug 1190256 and bug 1187222.
      • With some post-land-review pushed patches, Linux* should be green now.
    • OSX64: Busted due to bug 1208852
  • comm-aurora to comm-beta:
    • Linux32-debug : busted due to bug 1204162.
      • temporary patch was pushed to c-c so it's green there; but, needs to either be pushed to c-a and c-b, or the bug fixed. (depends on bug 1203803).
  • comm-release:
    • OSX64: Orange due to bug 958812. (This has always been orange since a long time ago.)

• Re: Tests.. This hasn't been mentioned before, but that was only because we have been trying to get our normal builds to run.
  • That said, all the tests are busted in some way or another. (SERGE... WHERE ARE YOU?)

• See RelEng page for the RelEng status history.

Release Train

• SeaMonkey 2.38 release:
  • Released September 26th 2015.
  • Merge day was September 21 as scheduled
• Useful Firefox Release Schedule link: Releases Scheduling

ewong

• Started doing nightlies again on the Win32, but due to the fact that they need to be triggered manually, 'nightlies' would be considered a misnomer. "Regularlies" would probably be a better word. Maybe "somewhat regularly".

Extensions and Plugins Compatibility Tracking

• See Basics page. Please only list current changes here.
• Addon Compatibility Listings
• We are looking for a new place to host the Addon Compatibility Listings for the Add-on Converter in order to make it easy to maintain and to serve as the main database for the AMO browsing extension in the future. The details are in this post.
• Firefox & Thunderbird Add-on Converter for SeaMonkey http://addonconverter.fotokraina.com/
  This tool goes a little further beyond simply modifying install.rdf - it also identifies a few more other things in the code that are Firefox or Thunderbird specific and attempts to change them. Of course, not all extensions can be ported so easily to SeaMonkey since there's only so much an automated tool like that can do.
  • Lemon Juice continues to improve his already impressive Addon Converter. The source is now available on GitHub [1].
  • looking for a better(?) home for extension-converter pages, along with a way to track successful and conversion-failed add-ons, and respective integration into SeaMonkey by add-on or manager overlay [2], bug 1145026.
  • Rainer Bielefeld will no longer update the list of Firefox addons that have been successfully converted by the Addon Converter. -- Rrbd (talk) 09:59, 16 August 2015 (PDT)
  • Ratty filed bug 1130390 to add a link on seamonkey-projects.org to the Firefox & Thunderbird Add-on Converter for SeaMonkey.
• The Thunderbird team is now shipping Lightning with Thunderbird. IanN will work on shipping lightning too. Related bugs:
  • bug 516026 Integrate Lightning Into SeaMonkey by Default and Ship SeaMonkey with Lightning Enabled
  • bug 1130854 Package Lightning with Thunderbird for c-c and c-a builds.
  • bug 1113183 Integrate Lightning Into Thunderbird by Default.
  • bug 1130852 Add opt-in dialog to promote Calendar integration [Thunderbird].
• Proposed replacement for Venkman for shipping with SeaMonkey: Tiny JavaScript Debugger. TinyJSD is a JavaScript debugger for privileged code running Mozilla products like Firefox, Thunderbird, SeaMonkey. It serves to debug the application as well as extensions written in JavaScript.
  • IanN filed bug 1133723 Investigate options for replacing Venkman with the TinyJSDebugger.

2.x (Last, Current, Next)

• SeaMonkey Statistics can be viewed at https://dataviz.mozilla.org Across all channels we have an approximate ADU of 120k.
  • Ratty suggests embedding these graphs somewhere on seamonkey-projects.org or https://dev.seamonkey.at
  • bug 1133728 Look at embedding dataviz information into the SeaMonkey website.
  • Links are broken again. Dataviz views now needs a SSO login. We need to find out how to expose a limited view for public consumption bug 1173006.
• See Basics page for the usual reminders.

2.38

open tracking (0) tracking requests (2) targeted (1) fixed (12)

• SeaMonkey 2.38 Release Notes
  • Workaround from bug 1194358 OMTC causes multiple tab display refresh problems on Linux, needs adding to release notes.

2.Next

• We have official permission to use the Firefox FxA 2.0 sync servers! We need someone to work on porting sync 2.0 over to replace legacy sync code. The finer details of how are so far unknown, but we should have a usable solution before legacy sync is turned off. See: New Firefox Sync has landed in Firefox Nightly. Tracked in:
  • bug 998807 Sync account creation or device pairing fails with exception in BrowserIDManager.
  • bug 1003434 Add support for about:sync-progress.
• Stalled. Needs a kick.
  • bug 815954 Click-to-Play: Port bug 812562 (click-to-play blocklisted plugins: reshow urlbar notification as with normal click-to-play).
  • bug 476108 GetShortPathNameW fails under some NTFS junctions [patchlove].
• Current breakages:
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• Mozilla-central bugs that affect us:
  • Changes to Safe Browsing.
  • mozilla-central bug 1146454 changed the printing API. IanN has migrated comm-central to the new API [bug 1195863].
  • Firefox is currently changing styles of several Toolkit pages
    • already affected: config.xul for about:config, bug 1125636
    • Toolkit meta bug for about:* pages: bug 1097111 - SeaMonkey tracking in bug 1133743
    • Modern may need updating as IDs are changing, Default needs forking if we want to roll back to previous styles
    • Fallout thus far: bug 1133582 about:config (Modern)
    • Ratty restored about:privatebrowsing UI to before it was messed up by Project Chameleon styles [bug 1192276]. Subsequent to Chameleon, Firefox developers have again redesigned the about:privatebrowsing UI to include UI for tracking protection. We should look into picking any changes we like.
  • A lot of these bugs are due to mozilla-central switching from synchronous APIs to Asynchronous APIs.
  • bug 566746 (asyncFormHistory) Form history should use asynchronous storage API. Tracked in:
    • bug 912031 Use Asynchronous FormHistory.jsm in place of nsIFormHistory2 in Suite.
  • bug 769764 move proxy resolution to separate thread and remove sync api. Tracked in:
    • MailNews bug 791645 Rewrite calls to synchronous nsIProtocolProxyService::DeprecatedBlockingResolve with Async code before DeprecatedBlockingResolve disappears as well.
  • The C++ downloads manager backend nsIDownloadManager is being decommissioned. Firefox and Thunderbird have migrated to jsdownloads.
  • bug 825588 Asynchronous JavaScript API for downloads and bug 851471 Decommission nsIDownloadManager. Tracked in:
    • bug 888915 Move SeaMonkey to the new JavaScript API for downloads when nsIDownloadManager is decommissioned. Neil has a WIP patch on hand.
  • We've picked up he default for security.tls.version.min from Mozilla Core, but security.tls.version.fallback-limit is new. So we need to consider adding the latter to our preferences UI (bug 1123673).
    • Currently unclear whether or not this should be done after bug 1084025 disable insecure TLS version fallback entirely by default [3]
    • alternative proposal is to make whitelist for acceptable fallback sites available in the UI, which seems to make more sense.

Feature List, Planning

Bug statistics for the last two (full) weeks: 19 new, 16 fixed, 19 triaged.

• Medium triaging effort, medium-low number of new bugs filed.
• IanN thinks it would be useful to remind people on the newsgroups / forums that they can contribute by triaging. Tonymec will post a reminder to newsgroups / forums. See bug 1092632 (Sm_tri_HowTo) Document how to triage SeaMonkey bugs.
  • The draft is currently at https://wiki.mozilla.org/User:Tonymec/Triage_HowTo
  • I have a new computer (at last) and on the last Sunday of August I even found out how to connect it to the Internet. I think the page is essentially finished but I badly need your opinion about it. Anyone with a wikimoz account can edit the page and/or create its Talk page (and is welcome to). If you don't have a wikimoz account you can still comment on the bug. — Tonymec (talk) 00:17, 27 September 2015 (PDT)

Open reviews/flags: 47 review 5 super-review 1 ui-review 10 feedback

• See Feature List page for major wanted/needed features.
• TODO:
  • bug 1127784 proposes to add a preference and UI to enable/disable playback of Encrypted Media Extensions.
    • FIXED has landed, with UI seen in non-release builds only
    • but uncertain if it does anything useful to be tested

Roundtable - Personal Status Updates

Status Updates from developers - what are you working on, what's the progress, any other comments? (feel free to add yourself to the list if your name is missing and you have interesting status).

ewong

• Been working on the 2.38 release and working on bug 1187222 for most of my waking moments.
• Did start on the Sync 1.5 bug, but that got backburnered again.

IanN

• Usual testing, reviewing, commenting and approving.
• Fixed:
• Fixed for c-c:
  • bug 1187964 View source from Thunderbird uses deprecated API
  • bug 1190185 Switch default search engine to DuckDuckGo
  • bug 1195126 Port |bug 666908 and bug 704316| to comm-central
  • bug 1195863 Switch to new PrintUtils API
• Fixed for m-c:
• Fixed for m-i/fx-i:
• Pending tree opening:
• Pending approval for check in:
• Pending checkin for dependent bugs:
  • bug 653386 Consider overriding netErrorApp.dtd rather than netError.dtd
• Checked in pending review:
• Waiting for feedback/review/information:
  • bug 1061348 Port |bug 575283 - Cleanup mozconfig files on all platforms| to SeaMonkey
  • bug 1163441 Use FINAL_TARGET_FILES and DIST_FILES for Thunderbird themes
  • bug 1195129 Port |bug 1027890 - Remove all sorts of build system code dedicated to pymake| and |bug 1082323 - Reject pymake in client.mk| to comm-central
  • bug 1195246 Port client.mk changes from |bug 1188766 - sccache setup with UPLOAD_EXTRA_FILES makes some files uploaded multiple times| to comm-central
  • bug 1195258 Port |bug 710147 - Pass more targets from client.mk to the build system| and |bug 911936 - Kill make depend| to comm-central
  • bug 1195264 Port |bug 741839 - client.mk: consolidate $(wildcard calls) to reduce overhead| and client.mk parts of |bug 774106 - Change how virtualenv is populated| to comm-central
  • bug 1195331 Port |bug 762358 - .mozconfig changes don't cause configure to run| to comm-central
• Fixing review comments before checkin:
  • bug 757230 When using add button for permissions in Data Manager set a displayHost
  • bug 798147 Switch to correct pref pane if pref window already open
• Working on:
  • bug 1200199 Update en-GB for Gecko 41
  • bug 1101381 Printing throws error: DEPRECATION WARNING: getWebBrowserPrint is now deprecated, and fully unsupported for multi-process browsers. Please use a frame script to get access to nsIWebBrowserPrint from content
  • bug 1190179 Port |bug 1067325 - Add an option to view html source in a tab| to SeaMonkey
  • bug 1051642 Allow for flat chrome format when packaging extensions
  • bug 943335 [TB] Update icons used in searchplugins (Yahoo, eBay, Wikipedia, Amazon, Bing, Twitter)
  • Various SM Council documents.
  • bug 606683 Allow customization of toolbar in Composer and MailNews Composition
  • bug 639690 [META] Re-arrange code between editor and editorOverlay
  • bug 773979 [META] Switch to new drag and drop api in SeaMonkey
  • bug 657234 Move pasteQuote and pasteNoFormatting into contentAreaContextOverlay
  • File/Folder selection in windows.
• To Do:
  • bug 639395 Get cmd_fontSize to reflect current state of selected content / content at caret.
  • Prefs-in-a-tab.
  • Create FAQ for Friends of the Fish Tank.
  • Help get composer standalone builds working with --enable-tests.

Neil

Still need to look into that Livemarks bug...

Checked in to comm-central:

• bug 1202216 Clicking on a desktop notification should switch to the notifying tab.
• bug 1204513 DOM Full Screen should be really full screen.

Waiting for feedback:

• bug 888915 Convert SeaMonkey Downloads Manager to Downloads.jsm

Still waiting for review:

• bug 970993 Aero Peek rendering issues.

Ratty

From the previous meeting. Reviewed and checked-in on a greenish tree:

• bug 507676 Port bug 435804 Remaining rdf cleanup for FilterListDialog| to SeaMonkey.
• bug 640420 Add draggable splitter between urlbar and searchbar.
• bug 1176602 Make sure that the dictionary stored in spellchecker.dictionary is valid (Adapt Thunderbird bug 1175908).
• bug 1192276 Restore about:privatebrowsing UI to before it was messed up by Project Chameleon styles.

Fixed:

• bug 1125689 Lightning isn't working in SeaMonkey due to __LOCATION__ missing (Error: ReferenceError: __LOCATION__ is not defined). Do not pack Lightning into a XPI. Also leaves the default theme unpacked (needed for bug 1189918)

In Progress:

• bug 1011857 Implement CustomizableUI shim for SeaMonkey.
• bug 1022354 SeaMonkey forces 3rd-party themes to not use defaultFavicon.png but hardcode a bookmarks-item.png.
  • bug 1189918 Theme overrides should work in safe mode for comm-central applications too. [Mozilla Core]
  • bug 1190465 Move default theme overrides into separate chrome.manifest for other non-firefox toolkit consumers too. [Toolkit].
  • Thunderbird defaut theme overrides.
• bug 1174466 Popup blocker: Need to allow popups opened by loaded javascript: URIs from the location bar. Regression from bug 896947.
• bug 1204338 More Refactoring: Followup to bug 403800 Refactor netError.dtd/netErrorApp.dtd. [mozilla-central]
• bug 1208112 Package DevTools client in SeaMonkey now that it's been moved out of /browser/.

TODO

• Front end changes needed for bug 1042699 Block cross-origin add-on install requests.
• Port bug 1048048 add preload content policy types for images.
• Implement tabbrowser methods getBrowserForOuterWindowID() and getTabForBrowser() used by about:performance

Other stuff:

• Did some reviews and approvals.
• Bug triage and Bug discussions.
• Usual end user support and PR in newsgroups and Mozillazine.

rsx11m

Landed on comm-central:

• bug 1149581 Remove SSLv3 strings from SSL panel in Privacy & Security preferences.

Waiting for re-review:

• bug 1152644 Add UI in Notifications preference pane whether or not to use libnotify for new-mail alerts on Linux.

May need retargeting:

• bug 1123673 Consider exposing security.tls.version.fallback-limit in SSL prefpane to accommodate SSL 3.0 legacy sites.

Other:

• Updated Releases and main SeaMonkey wiki pages for 2.38 release.
• Bug triage, testing, and commenting for SeaMonkey and MailNews Core.
• End-user information and discussion on MozillaZine.

tonymec

I have a new computer and I think the QA HowTo is essentially done. I badly need your opinion about it, and I don't know where its permanent home shall be. See Feature List, Planning above.

Data Manager is badly broken, see bug 1208700

Any other business?

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