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==Mar 30, 2010==
'''Agenda:'''
* Last SUMOdev meeting of Q1!
* 1.5.2/3 schedule.
* Worked out a hypothetical SUMOdev schedule for Q2.
* "Nominating" bugs.
* Roundtable.
* Read the wiki for other updates.
'''Scheduling of the [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=555003 1.5.2/3 push]:'''
* 3.0.19 release today, and
* ran into problems last night getting [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=532498 bug 532498] working correctly in staging (now Priority 0 for jsocol), means
* we're now targeting Thursday, 01 April.
* We picked up and verified [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=555800 bug 555800] yesterday.
'''Kitsune staging:'''
* http://support-stage-new.mozilla.com is up, but...
* It looks like we miscommunicated some things in [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=545148 bug 545148] and might have to clear those up.
** If you're not CCd on the bug ping me in #sumodev.
* Priority 1 for jsocol is getting this running correctly.
'''2.0 - Kitsune-powered search results:'''
* What's left?
** [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=OPEN+product%3Asupport+milestone%3A2.0 13 open bugs], but some are low priority, and others have fixes ready except for tests, or baking.
** We'll need to push 1.5.4 at the same time to pick up changes to the URLs for search.
*** If you want a bug in 1.5.4, please put '''1.5.4?''' in the whiteboard and add a comment with the reason it needs to happen now. We'll triage continuously this week.
** We'll work on getting data migrated to Unicode and assume the colliding articles will be changed.
** Need to start finalizing strings and hopefully have something to localize by next week.
* ''Very'' tentative schedule:
** Code freeze: 16 April?
** Push: 22 April?
** Extremely subject to change.
'''2.1 - Discussion forums:'''
* [[Support/DiscussionForumRedesignPRD|Draft PRD]] is up for discussion forums.
* Very optimistic plan:
** Code freeze: 30 April
** Push: 6 May
** For more realism, add 7-14 days.
'''2.2 - Support forums:'''
* [[Support/ForumRedesignPRD|Draft PRD]] is up. Cww: Is it still a draft?
* Pulling dates out of thin air:
** Code freeze: 18 June
** Push: 29 June
** We'll aim for earlier so we don't cut the quarter so close.
'''Roundtable:'''
* jsocol finds it too easy to keep typing at 1am. --jsocol
==Mar 23, 2010==
* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=ALL+product%3Asupport+milestone%3A1.5.2 1.5.2/3 (mobile)]
** Still aiming for Thursday (3/25).
** QA: how is it looking?
** Contains many fixes from 1.5.3 as well.
* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=ALL+product%3Asupport+milestone%3A1.5.3 1.5.3 (desktop)]
** Planning to push next Tuesday (3/30)?
** Will require Gearman ([https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=551513 bug 551313]) which may be a stumbling point with IT.
* [[Support/Kitsune|Kitsune]]
** Working with IT to get Kitsune in staging.
*** They just bounced the ball back to us.
*** [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=545148 Bug 545148] if you want to follow along.
** Still plan to get search into production in the first half of April, followed quickly by non-support forums.
** [https://support.mozilla.com/en-US/forum/3/620027 Community prefers Mediawiki markup]. --cilias
*** Fantastic. --james
== Mar 15, 2010==
* 1.5.2 launched Thursday night; Live Chat accounts migrated
* Laura leaving SUMO (for Socorro)
* Kitsune milestones reviewed and updated [[Support/Kitsune_Milestones]]
* 1.5.3 status
* Kitsune status
== Mar 8, 2010==
* Google Summer of Code -- potential SUMO projects? (djst)
* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=OPEN+product%3Asupport+milestone%3A1.5.2 1.5.2] - two outstanding bugs, push tomorrow?
* [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=OPEN+product%3Asupport+milestone%3A1.5.3 1.5.3] - timeline work for everybody?
* Kitsune updates - midterm review this week
* Roundtable
== Mar 1, 2010==
* 1.5.2
** Couple of remaining bugs are nearly done - can't push this week due to QA offsite
** Aim for push next Tuesday, so if you have any other bugs that you need done, now's the time for nominations
* Kitsune
** Staging server should be up sometime this week
** Status
* Roundtable
== Feb 23, 2010==
* Welcome Kadir!
* 1.5.2 status?
* Any goals for 1.5.3?
* Kitsune (2.0) status
== Feb 17, 2010==
* 1.5.1: process and review
* Dates for 1.5.2
* Kitsune update
==Feb 8, 2010==
* 1.5.1 status
** IT waiting on a package for stage from zzxc for {{bug|541983}}.  Status?
** Another round of QA and then launch, date still TBD
* 1.5.2
** Status
** Dates?
* Kitsune
** Plans for [https://wiki.mozilla.org/Support/SUMOMigrationOrder#Milestone_1:_Search_and_feedback first milestone]
==Feb 1, 2010==
* 1.5.1 status and timeline
* 1.5.2 nominations (and [[https://wiki.mozilla.org/Support/Kitsune/BugGuidelines criteria]])
** browser ballot template
** 1.5.2 focus: mobile.support.mozilla.com
** mobile SUMO forums
** mobile SUMO CSS - hold for 1.5.3?
* Kitsune status
** Working on [[https://wiki.mozilla.org/Support/SUMOMigrationOrder roadmap]]
** [[https://wiki.mozilla.org/Support/TechPlatformAnalysis#Language_and_Framework Technology]]
==Jan 25, 2010==
* https://wiki.mozilla.org/Support/PlatformEngineering#Evaluation
** Most of today's meeting will be around discussing these criteria and arriving at a go-no-go decision.
* Briefly: 1.5.1 status and timeline
** Live Chat login testing ([https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced;field0-0-0=blocked;type0-0-0=equals;value0-0-0=503215;resolution=DUPLICATE;resolution=--- bugs])
** Still targeting web client push for release after 1.5.1 ([https://wiki.mozilla.org/Support/Live_Chat/Web_client_status status])
==Jan 19, 2010==
* tiki-trunk discussion ([https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?bug_id=539216,539151,539145,539141,539171,539157,539124,537513,539126,539132,539147,539153,538391,539136,539146,539125,539148 bugs])
** This is number one priority - all devs should work on these bugs
** First part is for James and Laura to plan build process, involve IT (Jeremy).
* Meeting 9am PT Mondays?
* 1.5.1 status ([https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?classification=Other&query_based_on=all%20SUMO%20fixed&query_format=advanced&bug_status=UNCONFIRMED&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_status=REOPENED&bug_status=RESOLVED&bug_status=VERIFIED&bug_status=CLOSED&product=support.mozilla.com&target_milestone=1.5.1&known_name=all%20SUMO%20fixed bugs])
** [https://wiki.mozilla.org/Support/Live_Chat/SUMO_login/Testing Instructions for testing Live Chat login migration], which will be turned on after 1.5.1 ships.
* Tiki build process discussion (if time)
==Jan 12, 2010==
==Jan 12, 2010==


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* Goals for Q1 and releases:
* Goals for Q1 and releases:
** Search in AAQ - 1.5.1
** Search in AAQ - 1.5.1
** TikiWiki upgrade - 1.6
** TikiWiki upgrade - 2.0
** EU browser ballot preparations - 1.5.1
** EU browser ballot preparations - 1.5.1
** Verbatim for l10n - 1.5.2?
** Verbatim for l10n - 2.0.1
** Improve Fennec support experience (CSS work) - 1.5.2?
** Improve Fennec support experience (CSS work) - 2.0.1
* Release timeline:
* Release timeline:
** 1.5.1 end of Jan
** 1.5.1 end of Jan
** 1.5.2 end of Feb?
** 2.0 end of Feb?
** 1.6 end of March?
** 2.0.1 end of March?


==Jan 5, 2010==
==Jan 5, 2010==

Latest revision as of 21:07, 31 March 2010

Mar 30, 2010

Agenda:

  • Last SUMOdev meeting of Q1!
  • 1.5.2/3 schedule.
  • Worked out a hypothetical SUMOdev schedule for Q2.
  • "Nominating" bugs.
  • Roundtable.
  • Read the wiki for other updates.

Scheduling of the 1.5.2/3 push:

  • 3.0.19 release today, and
  • ran into problems last night getting bug 532498 working correctly in staging (now Priority 0 for jsocol), means
  • we're now targeting Thursday, 01 April.
  • We picked up and verified bug 555800 yesterday.

Kitsune staging:

  • http://support-stage-new.mozilla.com is up, but...
  • It looks like we miscommunicated some things in bug 545148 and might have to clear those up.
    • If you're not CCd on the bug ping me in #sumodev.
  • Priority 1 for jsocol is getting this running correctly.

2.0 - Kitsune-powered search results:

  • What's left?
    • 13 open bugs, but some are low priority, and others have fixes ready except for tests, or baking.
    • We'll need to push 1.5.4 at the same time to pick up changes to the URLs for search.
      • If you want a bug in 1.5.4, please put 1.5.4? in the whiteboard and add a comment with the reason it needs to happen now. We'll triage continuously this week.
    • We'll work on getting data migrated to Unicode and assume the colliding articles will be changed.
    • Need to start finalizing strings and hopefully have something to localize by next week.
  • Very tentative schedule:
    • Code freeze: 16 April?
    • Push: 22 April?
    • Extremely subject to change.

2.1 - Discussion forums:

  • Draft PRD is up for discussion forums.
  • Very optimistic plan:
    • Code freeze: 30 April
    • Push: 6 May
    • For more realism, add 7-14 days.

2.2 - Support forums:

  • Draft PRD is up. Cww: Is it still a draft?
  • Pulling dates out of thin air:
    • Code freeze: 18 June
    • Push: 29 June
    • We'll aim for earlier so we don't cut the quarter so close.

Roundtable:

  • jsocol finds it too easy to keep typing at 1am. --jsocol

Mar 23, 2010

  • 1.5.2/3 (mobile)
    • Still aiming for Thursday (3/25).
    • QA: how is it looking?
    • Contains many fixes from 1.5.3 as well.
  • 1.5.3 (desktop)
    • Planning to push next Tuesday (3/30)?
    • Will require Gearman (bug 551313) which may be a stumbling point with IT.
  • Kitsune
    • Working with IT to get Kitsune in staging.
      • They just bounced the ball back to us.
      • Bug 545148 if you want to follow along.
    • Still plan to get search into production in the first half of April, followed quickly by non-support forums.
    • Community prefers Mediawiki markup. --cilias
      • Fantastic. --james

Mar 15, 2010

  • 1.5.2 launched Thursday night; Live Chat accounts migrated
  • Laura leaving SUMO (for Socorro)
  • Kitsune milestones reviewed and updated Support/Kitsune_Milestones
  • 1.5.3 status
  • Kitsune status

Mar 8, 2010

  • Google Summer of Code -- potential SUMO projects? (djst)
  • 1.5.2 - two outstanding bugs, push tomorrow?
  • 1.5.3 - timeline work for everybody?
  • Kitsune updates - midterm review this week
  • Roundtable

Mar 1, 2010

  • 1.5.2
    • Couple of remaining bugs are nearly done - can't push this week due to QA offsite
    • Aim for push next Tuesday, so if you have any other bugs that you need done, now's the time for nominations
  • Kitsune
    • Staging server should be up sometime this week
    • Status
  • Roundtable

Feb 23, 2010

  • Welcome Kadir!
  • 1.5.2 status?
  • Any goals for 1.5.3?
  • Kitsune (2.0) status

Feb 17, 2010

  • 1.5.1: process and review
  • Dates for 1.5.2
  • Kitsune update

Feb 8, 2010

  • 1.5.1 status
    • IT waiting on a package for stage from zzxc for bug 541983. Status?
    • Another round of QA and then launch, date still TBD
  • 1.5.2
    • Status
    • Dates?
  • Kitsune

Feb 1, 2010

  • 1.5.1 status and timeline
  • 1.5.2 nominations (and [criteria])
    • browser ballot template
    • 1.5.2 focus: mobile.support.mozilla.com
    • mobile SUMO forums
    • mobile SUMO CSS - hold for 1.5.3?
  • Kitsune status

Jan 25, 2010

Jan 19, 2010

  • tiki-trunk discussion (bugs)
    • This is number one priority - all devs should work on these bugs
    • First part is for James and Laura to plan build process, involve IT (Jeremy).
  • Meeting 9am PT Mondays?
  • 1.5.1 status (bugs)
  • Tiki build process discussion (if time)

Jan 12, 2010

  • Meeting time/Paul.
  • 1.5.1 freeze status? (Not looking great: 12 bugs).
  • Goals for Q1 and releases:
    • Search in AAQ - 1.5.1
    • TikiWiki upgrade - 2.0
    • EU browser ballot preparations - 1.5.1
    • Verbatim for l10n - 2.0.1
    • Improve Fennec support experience (CSS work) - 2.0.1
  • Release timeline:
    • 1.5.1 end of Jan
    • 2.0 end of Feb?
    • 2.0.1 end of March?

Jan 5, 2010

  • URL progress [1]
  • Live Chat log in integration
  • Check out SUMO 2010 roadmap
  • Dates for 1.5.1 freeze/push? -cilias
    • Freeze on 12th, push on the 21st (tentative)
    • 1.5.1 Triage. It's grown way beyond its intent.