Calendar:Status Meetings:2006-10-11

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dmose, lilmatt, sipaq, ssa, daniel

Agenda Items

0.3 recap

  • With 0.3 we did exactly what we were trying to avoid doing: slush the code for almost two months. This may not be the right place or time, but I don't now what is. So, with that in mind, perhaps we should discuss:
    • What went wrong?
    • What went right?
    • How can we move forward faster in the future?
    • (We have one-two months until 0.5 according to the original schedule iirc, BTW).

0.3 Status

0.5 Planning

  • lilmatt's wish list/backlog - We need a higher level plan though :)
    • STRING -> VARCHAR schema change
    • Data Migrator (and CalExt disabler)
    • l10n tinderbox builds (so l10ners can check their stuff before release)
    • remainder of iMIP/iTIP
    • Lightning printing
    • Mac window management
    • X-props in VALARM, VCALENDAR, and VTIMEZONE (abstract out property bag)
    • Advanced tab with about:config
    • aus update checking
    • foreign timezone support
    • new timezone db
    • Google calendar provider
    • Sort out "foreign" provider story (WCAP, Google, etc.)
    • Lightning langpacks
    • Universal binary for Sunbird
    • Refactor C++ to use frozen interfaces where possible

sipaq's meeting notes

0.3 Recap

  • Many late high-risk fixes went in, which pushed the release date further away
  • We were on track until Joey went off to law school
  • We should sooner have started to cut feature work, need to improve that for 0.5
  • Releasing from both branch and trunk made everything more complicated for developers and localizers
  • We need a tinderbox for branch and one for the trunk. Talk with preed about this
  • It would be nice to get a dedicated l10n tinderbox or to hook up Sunbird to the regular l10n tinderboxen
  • General feedback from localizers was good
    • general communication and communication about possible issues was good
    • working for Sunbird is more relaxed than for FF or TB. Localizers seem to appreciate that
    • ssitter helped a lot with his regular langpack builds and with his compare-locale runs
    • we need to work with pike on getting calendar/locales added to automated l10n test runs (sipaq will contact pike)
  • Our testing exposure went up quite a lot with the RCs, but then it was too late (mostly)
    • ctalbert to organize bi-weekly test days
    • it would be great to get some automated tests up (e.g. importing .ics calendars from top calendar sites)
    • testing probably also went up, because 0.3 was our first big release since the rearchitecture work

0.3 status

  • yay, we released the beast :-)
  • Some locales (da and ru) are asking for respins. sipaq to compile a list of broken locales for possible respinning
  • would be nice to get bouncer stats

0.5 plans

  • things that were cut from 0.3 are obvious candidates for 0.5
  • 0.3 branch tinderboxen now build from trunk again
  • New UI proposal should be implemented for 0.5. We got a lot of good feedback about that from users
  • We need high-level goals for 0.5 (e.g. better Thunderbird integration)
  • We should aim for a release date somewhere in the first half of January
  • Qualcomm just announced that it will build Eudora from the Thunderbird codebase.