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Firefox/Gecko Delivery Meeting Details

  • Wednesdays - 11:00am Pacific, 2:00pm Eastern, 18:00 UTC
  • Mozilla Square Conference Room
  • 650-903-0800 or 650-215-1282 x92 Conf# 8605 (US/INTL)
  • 1-800-707-2533 (pin 369) Conf# 8605 (US)
  • irc.mozilla.org #planning for backchannel
  • (the developer meeting takes place on Tuesdays)

Upcoming Firefox Releases

Firefox 3.0.15 / Firefox 3.5.4

  • after a couple re-spins, we think we're good
  • went to beta yesterday with both releases
  • targeting next Tuesday (October 27) for release


  • revised beta 1 schedule
    • October 18th, 11:59pm PDT: Code freeze on mozilla-1.9.2, all P1 blockers landed
    • October 19th: Beta 1 builds available
    • October 19th-27th: QA testing
    • October 28th, 5pm PDT: Beta 1 launched

Fennec 1.0x beta 5

  • code freeze on Oct 27/28th
  • currently targeting November 9th for release
  • localization, plugins, and better performance are key deliverables

Seamonkey 2.0

  • second RC was available early this week
  • they are planning on doing a final release shortly


  • Personas Extension Compatibility bugs


  • common issues
  • What can we do about search hijacking?
  • What kind of metrics should SUMO be tracking for 3.6?

Product Development

as always, you can read the development meeting notes as well, but here are the big items:

Firefox 3.6 / mozilla-1.9.2

  • all teams now focusing on remaining blockers and nominations
  • one potentially large change still coming to session restore optimization - will know by the end of the week
  • roc is discussing potentially changing the syntax for CSS gradients
  • potential long poles are
    • bug 500200 - windows CE image corruption
    • Silverlight 3 doesn't work, roc needs help getting a contact at Microsoft
    • Aero Peek tab preview is a little big buggy at the moment (see dependents of bug 474056

future / mozilla-central

  • josh is trying to resolve a system sqlite conflict before being able to get to 64-bit builds on OSX
  • JS team found something costing us 15% on SunSpider, looking into resolving
  • startup time improvements are getting hard to measure reliably
  • process separation for plugins getting more and more solid, also now working on full process separation on mobile devices (Fennec/Maemo)


  • progress on defining what builds need to generate for Fennec, both multi-locale and single locale builds for maemo. Armen and the mobile team to make progress in Toronto
  • strings for Firefox 3.6 RC started to land on 1.9.2, window open 'til Friday. Details on signaling more bugs in .planning in post by beltzner.


  • Fx 3.6 QA
  • Previus Testday: Web site compatibility - Friday, Oct 16
    • Had a max of 26 in the testday channel at its peak
    • Major contributors outside mozQA: AaronMT, satdav and misafir
    • 2 bugs filed on the day
  • Next Testdays: Test-scripting with Mozmill Thur/Fri Oct 29/30
  • Fennec:
    • Cleaner patch submitted for windows mobile talos ts
    • have ran mochitest and xpcshell on windows mobile with new test-agent
    • working on packaging up browser-chrome tests so we can start running on tinderbox
  • Tegra:
    • Communicated OS issues to development team and awaiting new OS drop

Release Engineering

  • Typically not waiting long for slave availability during releases; up to 15 minutes sometimes for Mac en-US builds (which usually finish before Windows builds anyway!)


  • AMO 5.2 launched last night with support for Personas and new statistics for developers
  • Add-on Compatibility Reporter will be launched today
  • AMO 5.3 development kicked off today (stub entries, contributions II, html/links in add-on descriptions)
  • Jorge kicking off 3.6 compatibility push with email today or tomorrow. Currently at 34%
  • Add-ons Meetup in MV Tuesday

Web Dev

  • Socorro
    • please send socorro requests to morgamic, not lars -- he's getting slammed
    • Daniel has a metrics plan for 100% processing
    • The current Socorro team has posted a Q4 roadmap and we'll be meeting with Daniel this Thursday to discuss/avoid/optimize overlap
  • Plugins
  • Personas
    • Most server stuff figured out for mozilla.com -> addons.mozilla.org -> getpersonas.com interactions. Webdev is on track.



  • Survey is launched and we're getting good responses - important question is the cust sat number for developers.
  • Docs underway, feel like File stuff is late but that's because there only kinda sort a spec.
  • Paul is working on demos for 3.6.


  • Plugin page went live last Tuesday: http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/plugincheck/
    • Page is performing well: 445K page views since release ~ 56K pv per day; compared to the personal.html page has 545K in 8 days ~ 68K pv per day but we need to find better ways to bring traffic in.
      • Working on a dynamic button project to bring more traffic in
      • Adwords Campaigns
    • Next Phase of the project is wrapping up l10n of the pages and refining the self-service directory so that vendors can update information about their plugins (working on the work-flow, ue and policies).


  • Firefox 3.6 as a minor update [beltzner]