Firefox OS/Comms/Dialer/Sprint/v2.1-S1/20140731-Minutes

Meeting Minutes

[4:31pm] gtorodelvalle: Hi drs Rik thills ! Time for our daily meeting [4:31pm] drs: hello [4:31pm] thills: hello [4:31pm] gtorodelvalle: I think Rik is no longer updating the Etherpad so let’s start Any administrative issue? [4:32pm] gtorodelvalle: Ups, he is [4:32pm] Rik: no we can go [4:32pm] drs: yes, so unfortunately we couldn't land bug 1018283 on 2.0 [4:32pm] firebot: https://bugzil.la/1018283 — FIXED, gtorodelvalle — [Follow-up 951665] Pending visual revision and adjustments of the VR call screen when in lockscreen [4:33pm] drs: Rik and I argued to land it for a while, and we still disagree with relman's decision, but we did everything we realistically could [4:33pm] drs: I'm going to be meeting with lmandel to talk about this and what they could do better [4:33pm] gtorodelvalle: Yeap, I’m sad I missed that single locale string If i didn’t it would have landed [4:33pm] drs: so if you have any information you'd like from relman, please let me know so I can get it all in one spot [4:33pm] drs: yeah, we're really sorry about this gtorodelvalle, we know you worked hard on it [4:33pm] gtorodelvalle: [4:33pm] drs: but at least it landed on master [4:34pm] drs: anyways that's it for my admin updates [4:34pm] gtorodelvalle: Yeap, and we will improve the process [4:34pm] gtorodelvalle: So, time for individual reports drs ? [4:34pm] drs: ok [4:34pm] drs: I need to talk with gsvelto, who isn't here right now, about bug 991573 [4:34pm] firebot: https://bugzil.la/991573 — NEW, david.garciaparedes — Copy improvements in Call Barring service through MMI [4:35pm] drs: oh also one other note from Rik that he left in my report, if you get 1.4+ blocking, you still need to explicitly request permission to land on 2.0 [4:35pm] drs: that's all for me [4:35pm] gtorodelvalle: Thanks! I do not know why Rik appears below today so I’ll go next [4:35pm] drs: oh and I'd like to land bug 967440 today so I'll be reviewing that first thing after this [4:35pm] firebot: https://bugzil.la/967440 — ASSIGNED, anthony — Remove some reflows on the keypad [4:36pm] gtorodelvalle: In fact, nothing to report on my side apart from what’s included in the Etherpad [4:36pm] Rik: (RyanVM who does the uplifts will tell you about asking for 2.0 uplifts so no need to remember) [4:36pm] gtorodelvalle: That’s my style [4:36pm] gtorodelvalle: Next is Rik [4:37pm] Rik: I'm slacking on reviews on purpose to get some feature work done [4:37pm] gtorodelvalle: He, he… [4:37pm] Rik: I'll still look at them later today but that's why [4:37pm] gtorodelvalle: Thanks! [4:38pm] Rik: if you think one is more important, tell me [4:38pm] drs: Rik: sorry to sprinkle something from me into your talk, I forgot to mention not to bother reviewing bug 1037868 yet because I want to address kgrandon's comments first to save you time [4:38pm] Rik: that's it for me [4:38pm] firebot: https://bugzil.la/1037868 — ASSIGNED, drs+bugzilla — Create gaia-sim-picker component [4:38pm] gtorodelvalle: Next is thills [4:38pm] thills: Still working on bug 1039643 and taking help from rik on this. Created a workaround for the issue that I ran into with an existing mock. Have a new WIP feedback posted. That's it from my side. [4:39pm] firebot: https://bugzil.la/1039643 — ASSIGNED, thills — Write some unit tests for shared/js/dialer/contacts.js [4:39pm] gtorodelvalle: Thanks! [4:39pm] gtorodelvalle: Does anyone want to add anything else? [4:39pm] Rik: yup [4:39pm] Rik: gtorodelvalle: about bug 889737, why would we take it in the next sprint? [4:39pm] firebot: https://bugzil.la/889737 — NEW, szchen — [MMI] Unify both sendMMI() and dial() functions [4:40pm] gtorodelvalle: Rik: I have been asked to try to deal with the Gaia side but sincerelly until there is not Gecko counterpart or concrete decisions about it I do not think it makes much sense [4:41pm] Rik: exactly [4:41pm] gtorodelvalle: Maybe just to know what should be updated to make it work ASAP [4:41pm] Rik: the RIL team is gonna work on it in sprint 3 [4:41pm] Rik: (at best) [4:41pm] Rik: and this is not a 2.1 feature [4:41pm] gtorodelvalle: In fact, I was asked to start working on it now and I suggested to discuss about it in our next spring planning [4:41pm] drs: gtorodelvalle: who asked you to start working on it now? [4:41pm] gtorodelvalle: So I think we can decide about it there [4:42pm] gtorodelvalle: mariaoteo and Antonio Amaya [4:42pm] drs: ok [4:42pm] Rik: well, there's not much to decide. you can't work on it because there's not even a work in progress gecko patch [4:42pm] drs: mariaoteo: please see above. just an FYI that we can't work on bug 889737 because it requires gecko work first [4:43pm] Rik: gtorodelvalle: Amaya, like the browser? [4:43pm] gtorodelvalle: Yeah, I think what we want is to have the Gaia part under control (meaning where we shoud include changes) but definitely this will finally be affected by the Gecko final implementation [4:44pm] gtorodelvalle: Like a gipsy group here in Spain [4:44pm] gtorodelvalle: Cultural note: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GaHjCPRH0Nc&list=PLCEE3C5F02C56D979 [4:44pm] drs: without the gecko part, we can't test if the gaia part is working. I guess we could write unit tests, but it seems unnecessary because it shouldn't be very costly to just do it once the gecko part is ready [4:45pm] drs: but I think Rik would know more about this than me [4:45pm] gtorodelvalle: I agree I will share this with them [4:45pm] drs: ok, thanks [4:45pm] drs: if you really want to I think it's possible to get started on it, I just recommend against it [4:45pm] drs: when the time comes, we'll make sure you have the cycles to work on it [4:45pm] gtorodelvalle: Yeah, I agree [4:46pm] drs: (or someone does) [4:46pm] Rik: gtorodelvalle: the API is not settled at all, nor the transition plan [4:46pm] gtorodelvalle: Yeah, yeah, that was my feeling after reading all the comments [4:46pm] Rik: gtorodelvalle: I've proposed a transition plan where we don't have to do much but that was before we thought about the new API [4:47pm] gtorodelvalle: I definitely agree with you and I guess they will also do it when I share this information with them tomorrow [4:47pm] Rik: so I'm not sure that Gecko can still do the compatibility part [4:47pm] Rik: ok cool [4:47pm] gtorodelvalle: Just wanted to know your thoughts about it and they are cristal clear [4:48pm] gtorodelvalle: So thank you very much, I guess the meeting is over You’re ruinig my hosting timing stats [4:48pm] Rik: I've dealt with the previous API change (promises for dial()) and it was pretty easy to do but only once we got the first Gecko WIP [4:48pm] gtorodelvalle: [4:48pm] Rik: nah, I'm sure drs stopped the clock earlier [4:48pm] gtorodelvalle: [4:48pm] drs: heh [4:48pm] drs: we're 8 minutes over our target! [4:49pm] mariaoteo: drs: Thanks Dough, I know [4:49pm] gtorodelvalle: Damn it!!! [4:50pm] mariaoteo: drs: we are aligning with Gecko team [4:50pm] drs: mariaoteo: once they get their part done, we'll make sure someone works on the gaia part [4:51pm] Rik: drs: well, this is not a 2.1 feature so I wouldn't promise this either [4:52pm] drs: Rik: well, at the very least, gtorodelvalle can work on it [4:52pm] mariaoteo: drs: thanks Dough, Hsin-Yi set the target milestone for 889737 as 2.1 S3 (20aug) [4:53pm] Rik: we have it on our radar, I'm just saying that in terms of priority, it is still under other 2.1 features [4:53pm] mariaoteo: drs: I hope German can work on Gaia side in parallel [4:54pm] mariaoteo: Rik: sure, I understand [4:54pm] drs: mariaoteo: once the API is stabilized, it will make more sense to work on it, but it makes the most sense to get started once the gecko part is actually landed [4:55pm] mariaoteo: yep, I understand all you said, but we are working on the Gaia part because wilfredm requested us to try to land this for 2.1 as Mozilla did not have resources to make it happen [4:56pm] mariaoteo: in other words, it's still a priority for 2.1 and the only change is that Gaia part will be done by TEF engineers [4:56pm] drs: ok, I understand. if the gecko part actually lands in S3 I don't think there will be a problem here [4:56pm] mariaoteo: the plan has been discussed in detail with wilfredm, ask him for more details about that if you have any doubt