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Meeting Details

• 9:00am Pacific, 12:00pm Eastern
• 650-903-0800 x91 Conf# 206 (US/INTL)
• irc.mozilla.org #l10n-drivers for backchannel

Attendees

Chofman, Wil, SethB, Mic, Pascal, TimR

DRAFT Notes

• Preparation for friends week in Mountain View -- think about what we'd like to achieve as a team being as we'll all be in one spot at one time e.g.,
  • prep for India
  • Firefox 3 new things we can do
  • L10n goals/planning for what we want to do in 2008 and Q1 of 08

all.html; amo globalized issues

• • Chatzilla requirements (Mic/Wil)
  • ACTION: mic to look for 3 1 to 2 hour time slots over the week when we can all meet as a team and tackle various topics

• QA update
  • won't finish in time for B1
  • produce reference files first
  • still bouncing around on date, possibly Wednesday, most likely Monday chance also for Friday
  • main driving factor is how much time QA needs
  • no need for more process; so long as localizers feel confidence that their community will like it (if QA doesn't have time to test)

• Beta 1 update/
  • spent bunch of time running through diffs for productization files for all locales that opted in in time
  • bunch of stuff that shouldn't have happened the way it did; a bunch of stuff that was supposed to be as is; some stuff that was purposely done incorrectly
  • conclusion some level of creativity around process or ignorance which means that there is real eagerness to ship
  • hard to assess who is overly optimistic
  • made some calls to not ship
  • 2 or 3 locales still having changes to search that are well intended but not documented; rounding these up and getting clarifications
  • Pascal checked all pages for new locales; they are ok; no holds for snippets for B1
  • for Fx3 will be changing snippets, this is future
  • 20+ languages for Beta 1 is awesome

• Fx 3 update
  • worth it to have wiki page with status across all locales for web services, technical reviews, QA review, and snippets
  • Smartware now has 26 locales they can test vs last years 14 - awesome!!
    • Indic languages (Hindi, Gujarati, Punjabi, Tamil, Kannada, Malyalam, Telegu, Bengali)
    • French, German, Italian, Iberian and Latin American Spanish, Japanese, Simplified & Traditional Chinese, Korean, Russian, Portuguese
    • Turkish, Arabic, Hebrew, Polish, Dutch, Danish

• SUMO
  • help area, FAQs and place for people to really get help on their issues; general support
  • algorithms; being able to discover changes and prioritize edits
  • tracking changes is a problem for localizations
  • teams have their own glossaries; they have official documents; glossaries they share with other applications; we don't have a centralized one
  • glossaries will probably come up as part of tools discussion

• Tools update
  • glossaries and the like will be coming up in Tools discussions and is being considered there
  • looking at tools to do a variety of things
    • which strings are still to be translated
    • do we have right people at right tool - e.g., is particular team good at web apps or desktop apps, translation algorithms, etc
  • working on Google document that articulates these concepts
  • how to ask right questions of tools proposers to understand if something is good or bad; trying to ensure folks feel good about the questions we ask; feedback is very mixed
    • will take us a bit of time to sort through all feedback and types of feedback
    • ACTION: WilC watch what we develop and questions we ask cause there may be value in overlap of concepts although AMO is different

• Community Dev update
  • not much news
  • launched Spanish Portal, good press coverage, new users registering, first portal with XUL

• AMO update
  • nothing new
  • locale packs for add-ons

• Goals
  • forum thread
  • ask Lilly for his dump on new ideas and view of 2008 at one of our L10n meetings during friends week