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Meeting Details

  • 9:00am Pacific, 12:00pm Eastern
  • 650-903-0800 x91 Conf# 206 (US/INTL)
  • irc.mozilla.org #l10n-drivers for backchannel


Chofman, Wil, SethB, Mic, Pascal, TimR


  • Preparation for friends week in Mountain View -- think about what we'd like to achieve as a team being as we'll all be in one spot at one time e.g.,
    • prep for India
    • Firefox 3 new things we can do
    • L10n goals/planning for what we want to do in 2008 and Q1 of 08

all.html; amo globalized issues

    • Chatzilla requirements (Mic/Wil)
    • ACTION: mic to look for 3 1 to 2 hour time slots over the week when we can all meet as a team and tackle various topics
  • QA update
    • won't finish in time for B1
    • produce reference files first
    • still bouncing around on date, possibly Wednesday, most likely Monday chance also for Friday
    • main driving factor is how much time QA needs
    • no need for more process; so long as localizers feel confidence that their community will like it (if QA doesn't have time to test)
  • Beta 1 update/
    • spent bunch of time running through diffs for productization files for all locales that opted in in time
    • bunch of stuff that shouldn't have happened the way it did; a bunch of stuff that was supposed to be as is; some stuff that was purposely done incorrectly
    • conclusion some level of creativity around process or ignorance which means that there is real eagerness to ship
    • hard to assess who is overly optimistic
    • made some calls to not ship
    • 2 or 3 locales still having changes to search that are well intended but not documented; rounding these up and getting clarifications
    • Pascal checked all pages for new locales; they are ok; no holds for snippets for B1
    • for Fx3 will be changing snippets, this is future
    • 20+ languages for Beta 1 is awesome
  • Fx 3 update
    • worth it to have wiki page with status across all locales for web services, technical reviews, QA review, and snippets
    • Smartware now has 26 locales they can test vs last years 14 - awesome!!
      • Indic languages (Hindi, Gujarati, Punjabi, Tamil, Kannada, Malyalam, Telegu, Bengali)
      • French, German, Italian, Iberian and Latin American Spanish, Japanese, Simplified & Traditional Chinese, Korean, Russian, Portuguese
      • Turkish, Arabic, Hebrew, Polish, Dutch, Danish
  • SUMO
    • help area, FAQs and place for people to really get help on their issues; general support
    • algorithms; being able to discover changes and prioritize edits
    • tracking changes is a problem for localizations
    • teams have their own glossaries; they have official documents; glossaries they share with other applications; we don't have a centralized one
    • glossaries will probably come up as part of tools discussion
  • Tools update
    • glossaries and the like will be coming up in Tools discussions and is being considered there
    • looking at tools to do a variety of things
      • which strings are still to be translated
      • do we have right people at right tool - e.g., is particular team good at web apps or desktop apps, translation algorithms, etc
    • working on Google document that articulates these concepts
    • how to ask right questions of tools proposers to understand if something is good or bad; trying to ensure folks feel good about the questions we ask; feedback is very mixed
      • will take us a bit of time to sort through all feedback and types of feedback
      • ACTION: WilC watch what we develop and questions we ask cause there may be value in overlap of concepts although AMO is different
  • Community Dev update
    • not much news
    • launched Spanish Portal, good press coverage, new users registering, first portal with XUL
  • AMO update
    • nothing new
    • locale packs for add-ons
  • Goals
    • forum thread
    • ask Lilly for his dump on new ideas and view of 2008 at one of our L10n meetings during friends week