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Action Items / Takeaways from Last Week

Marlena to file bugs to get VMWare Fusion licenses for 3,4,5,6 machines (VMWare Fusion 4)
- Start with Windows 7
Pick a build and run it on Beta
- Don't think we can do this without using Selenium 2.12*
Update betas as soon as they come out
- See above
Update and use nightlies
- Ditto

Discussion Items / Updates

Jenkins job changes
- Disable wipe out workspace
- Find/remove results/pyc files
- Use pip cache
- Upgrade when installing Python packages
Specifying versions in Python package dependencies
Should we standardize our use of py.test marks across projects? What should they be?
- My opinion (and it's just that): it's easier to mark @NoProd and do py.test -k-NoProd in your [projectName.prod] build than to mark all tests for their specific environment (most projects ship from trunk/master weekly) - stephend
Use branches when some tests are only appropriate to certain environments
- Mozilla.com was using this until recently. Need to to discuss why it was changed? Were there issues?
  - See Stephen's update (and tentative apology) :-)
http://pypi.python.org/simple/ makes me cry:
- [21:41:33.703] GET http://pypi.python.org/simple/ [HTTP/1.1 500 Internal Server Error 21875ms] - stephend
Mobile-testing infra update from Raymond?
Like to have someone answer https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=702605#c2, so we can try to move it right along - stephend
BHAGS -- what do we want WebQA to be/look like/do, in 2012?:
- http://www.slideshare.net/wadekar/b-h-a-g1
- http://www.sitepoint.com/how-to-create-a-big-hairy-audacious-goal/
  - Brainstorm notes, here: https://etherpad.mozilla.org/webqa-bhags

Affiliates
- Slipped this weeks release due to bug 702465 and bug 703285
AMO
- AMO 6.3.2 is going live 11/17
- It's been a week of awesome.
- We've got tests in our pull request queue by our awesome new contributor and plans for everyone to spend half a day on code review today/tomorrow.
- We have webdriver jobs in jenkins
- Production run is pending agreement on a production tag
- Found critical bug for webdriver in Firefox. It's in the queue to be triaged.
- In the middle of refreshing vms
Input
- Still in a holding pattern. The entire team is busy doing working Mozillians
Jetpack Builder (aka FlightDeck)
- No news but devs asked for some coverage which we should aim to complete in the next week.
Mozilla.com
Mozillians
- Code Freeze on 11/30 for 1.2
- 1.1.2 release
MDN
- Working on 1.6 and 1.6.1 links
Socorro
- 2.3.3 is going to be released tomorrow,or latest Monday, depending on the release of FF8.0.
- This weeks release was missed due to a miscommunication. Stage wasn't fully updated & QA tested an incompletely patched system.
SUMO
- 11/17 is the 2nd SUMO Questions day
- 11/15 went out successfully
- 11/22 in process
Case Conductor
- .7 release, first dogfoodable release is out and up at: caseconductor.allizom.org

Stephen out the 28th and 29th of November
Matt B out of office the 17th and 18th to meet with test infected folk up in Seattle. I'll be online and reachable via the normal channels when I'm not in meetings.

Project leads will update the Jenkins jobs with the new settings
Continue discussion about versions in Python package dependencies on mailing list until next week
Continue the discussion on the maillist until the group takes a decision
- Should we use @destructive / @nondestructive marks
- For AMO we will use temporary marks until the final decision
Projects leads decide if you want to use branches for running test on different environments[production/development]
Raymond ping Berada from goolge(should we use Hub or Jenkins)
Comment the blocking bug, make sure it will be handled on the triage meeting
Add you ideas to the brainstorm notes
- shoot for the stars
- [Stephen]add more info to clarify what BHAG means