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Meeting Notes for 2011-10-25


(eg. headcount, updates with staffing, vacation/away time)

  • Ioan Cimpean will be on vacation on Friday, October 28.
  • Anthony Hughes on vacation Friday October 28 to Monday November 7 (see Juan for Desktop Firefox, Henrik for Desktop Automation)

Take Ways From Last Week

(eg. Action items from last weeks's Take Aways)

  • Desktop:
    • How are we going to prioritize manual tasks going forward?
      • [not started] We need to write a wiki explaining a new approach: task list, priority ranking, timeline, scrumpad daily schedule(?)
    • [done] Set up a meeting with Dave Townsend and fligtar to see how to approach this. Scheduled for Thu late morn.

Round Table

(eg. Other items to discuss)

Desktop Firefox
  • [ashughes] Can we start reporting status on features currently being delivered (ie. what's in the Beta milestone)?

Firefox Updates

(eg. Status, top issues)

  • Mozilla (test lead)
    • Firefox 8b5 this week
    • Firefox 9 ship date is Dec 20 -- decision coming down today RE: scheduling due to proximity to holidays
  • Waverley (Andrei, Ioana, Mihaela, Virgil, Simona, Vlad)
    • Firefox 8 beta 4 Test Plan
      • Smoketests in Litmus
      • Exploratory testing - Webapp compatibility
      • Manual exploratory work around Updates
      • Fixed bug verification Exploratory spreadsheet
    • Firefox 9 Test Plan
      • Fixed bug verification
      • Update testcases in Litmus
      • Feature ownership: Make DNT signal accessible from the navigator global object Test Plan - Ioana
        • Status: contacted the lead engineer; started working on the Test Plan.
    • Firefox 10 Test Plan
    • Logged Issues Bugzilla Query
    • Dark matter addons verification on Windows 7 x86 Link
    • Test day involvement Link
  • Feature ownership Status - Silent Update Link
    • Lessen the showing of the what's new page Link - Mihaela
      • Status: sent e-mails to developers and waiting for set up of some test updates. Also, waiting for some clarifications on some questions. Created an initial version of the test plan page, but it will need further updates. Will start to write test cases when more details/ test updates will be available. [Mihaela]
    • Removal of OS security dialog for Windows Link - Simona
      • Status: contacted the lead engineer Brian Bondy and started the exploratory work on a try build, started exploratory work on a try build, started exploratory work on a try build and started a test plan.
    • Add-ons default to compatible Link - Virgil
      • Status: in development, nothing landed on F10 at this moment. Requested tryserver build. Created test plan (60%-to create extra test cases once I will be able to test the tryserver build). [Virgil]
    • Apply update on shutdown Link - VladG
      • Status: sent mail to the developer and I'm waiting for the builds in order to resume testing. Begin creating a test plan.
    • Workflow with Incompatible Add-ons Link - Ioana
      • Status: contacted the directly responsible person and lead engineer; waiting for updates.
    • Lessen the display of app update UI Link - Andrei
      • Status: For the bug (implementation bug for the feature Lessen App Update Displayed UI), which is the "notification that there is an update downloaded / ready to install"? Blocking feature testing
  • Feature ownership Status - Third Party Add-on Warnings Link - VladM, Virgil, VladG
    • Status: we have updated the testplan with our work so far on the try build. The patch has landed on Nightly and this week will land on Aurora and Beta as well. As soon as this happens, we will resume our testing on beta and aurora and update the test plan accordingly.

Automation Updates

(eg. Status, top issues)

WebQA (Selenium)
  • Waverly (Teodosia, Florin, Alin)
    • all fails caused by the new Themes and Search pages for AMO have been fixed
    • folder structure in AMO tests has changed - there are separate folder for pages and tests
    • bug triage and resolved fixed bug verification on Socorro
  • Mozilla (Marlena)
Desktop (Mozmill)
  • Waverley (Alex, Vlad, Remus)
  • Worked on:
    • Patches for tests
    • Owned features testing
    • Code reviews
    • Investigate failing tests
    • Helped with Testday
  • Patches needing review
  • Mozilla (Anthony)
    • Met with Henrik yesterday to discuss ongoing plan
    • Official plan coming soon -- continue to focus on AOM tests in the meantime
    • Any new AOM Litmus test should be added to this bucket

Fennec Updates

(eg. Status, top issues)

  • Mozilla (Kevin/Aaron/Naoki)
    • If you haven't already please read our notes from the mobile work week in Toronto (Aaron)
    • Firefox 8 beta 5
    • Merge on Nov 8th
    • Plans may change for Firefox 9/10
    • Looking into adding some tablets to the test pool
  • Waverley (Ioana, Andreea, Catalin, Cami, Carla, Nicolae)
  • Weekly Status:
    • run BFTs, OS integration tests and daily smoke tests on all new devices (Tablet Acer 500 Iconia, Asus Transformer, LG Optimus 2X P990, HTC Desire Z, Google Nexus S, Motorola Droid 2) daily results ; archive . Builds tested as follows: Smoketests on Aurora (weekly) on Nightly (daily), BFTs and OS Integration Tests on Nightly and BFTs on Aurora.
    • run performance tests (all) against daily builds with the add-on (daily on aurora and nightly)(result are on server)
    • bug validation Commented bugs;
    • bug triage state of triaged bugs
    • Firefox 8 Beta 4 results: here
    • Logged issues
    • watch assigned features
  • Important bugs:
    • bug 696013 - Nightly crashes @ mozilla::layers::BasicShadowCanvasLayer::DestroyFrontBuffer
    • bug 696732 - Blank tab is displayed if device orientation is changed while the page starts loading
    • bug 696740 - Accelerometer doesn't work properly for Fennec with hardware keyboard out
    • bug 695697 - Text selection highlight disappears after long tap on text
    • bug 694969 - [TabletUI] Some options from Menu list are not highlighted when tapped
  • Questions / Issues:

Take Aways This Week

(eg. Action items)

  • Automation alternates: Geo, Henrik. Must be given advance notice for milestone testing. Henrik BFTs and Geo for updates. [ashughes]
  • Feature status communication: Need for feature status updates on the different wikis, scrumpads, mail among team leads [to coordinate with Otilia]
  • Review goals which have been made public [all]
  • Try out system where SV folk can connect remotely to machines before we move on to buying equipment. [matt]