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Test Development, Automation, Infrastructure Discussion - Dec 18th, 2006
Attendees
- alice, rob, bc, coop, tracy, tony, timr, juanb, carsten (tomcat)
 
Agenda
- Status/ideas for buildbot
 - Plans/ideas for test extension
 - Extending search engine/trademark verifiers (search enginers, rss feeds, search strings, )
 - Next steps for collecting /reporting results
 
Discussion
Status/ideas for buildbot
- Start integrating JS tests
 - [bc] simplifying tree, test invocation scripts. Should work for all platforms
 - SSH working
 - getting VNC/RDC running
 - reporting status on tinderboxes
- every build triggers test
 
 - Older branches might show progressively more failures
 - [robcee] Initially testing against trunk
 - [bc] JS on all three branches
- 1.8, 1.8.0, 1.9
 - Why not buildbot for all branches?
 
 - [bc] Tests take different amounts of time to run
- All may not be appropriate to run per build interation
 - JS tests take a couple hours to run - once per day
 - [robcee] Main buildbot tests now - RefTests - take 10-15 seconds
 - Fast cycles tests - run per build
- one VM per platform
 
 - Long running tests - once per night
 
 - Build time
- [robcee] take 8 minute - make-depend build
 - [bc] should probably do make-clobber builds - make-depend is not reliable
 
 - Buildbot should support debug builds, waytoomuch GC builds, or other special builds
 - Bob's tools:
- Steps: checkout, clean (clobber), build
 - Parameters: for optomized or debug build, etc
 
 - Build FFx, TBird, XULRunner for all branches
 - Buildbot master is on private network
- Reports to tinderbox - public visibility
 - Impacts for sec tests on reporting?
 
 - Need a couple xservs - RefTest and JS tests <<== AI timr
- Mac Intel xservers - to replace the minis - for the CoLo
 
 - Run 1.8 on one machine and 1.8.0 and 1.9 on another machine
- So they all complete within a day
 
 
Next steps for collecting /reporting results
- Litmus is not necessarily the best place for results
 - Look at what buildbot displays
- easy to extend
 
 - Long running tests can still be run and reported with one of the late night builds
 - Litmus advanced query would be useful for future data mining and non-tinderbox oriented reporting
 
Plans/ideas for test extension
- New tool available from Seneca College
- Developed by David Hamp-Gonsalves
 - See Seneca College Project - Buggy Bar
 - Grabs next unconfirmed bug from bugzilla
 - Good as long as bug is formatted by the bug submitter tool
 - Waiting for AMO group to sign off on Buggy Bar
 - Updates bug with confirmed status and comments
- Add to comment: "confirmed via buggy bar" or something similar so we can see how may bugs are being processed by this extension?
 - Tracy to check if David can add unique text in comment so we can see how this is working. <<== AI tracy
 
 - He has offered to create a litmus extension
- tracy - to lead this <<== AI tracy
 
 
 
- RefTests - not good candidates for test ext
 
- Other testing extensions [bob]
- Spider - general purpose
- Fire off JS events
 - See Bob's blog - about attempting to drive browser from KB, Mouse events, fill in forms, etc.
 - Spider is currently very user un-friendly but a lot of potential
 - Next step: discuss in weekly JS test automation mtg
 
 
 - Spider - general purpose
 
Extending search engine/trademark verifiers (search enginers, rss feeds, search strings, etc)
- Didn't get to this