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== Diagnosis Steps ==
== Diagnosis Steps ==
Did you check the items above in [[#Diagnosis Introduction|Diagnosis Introduction]]?
Did you check the items above in [[#Diagnosis Introduction|Diagnosis Introduction]]?
# Are you using the newest Thunderbird? <small>Check Help > About in Thunderbird to see what channel and version you are running. Then visit https://thunderbird.net/download to see what version is available for your channel. NOTE:most user are on the "esr" channel, not "release". Also check the [https://www.thunderbird.net/system-requirements/ current System Requirements] to see whether your OS is supported.</small>
# Are you using the newest Thunderbird? <small>Check Help > About in Thunderbird to see what '''<u>channel</u>''' and version you are running. Then visit https://thunderbird.net/download to see what version is available for '''<u>your channel</u>'''. NOTE: most users are on the "esr" channel, not "release". Also check the [https://www.thunderbird.net/system-requirements/ current System Requirements] to see whether your OS is supported.</small>
#Start Thunderbird in [https://support.mozilla.org/kb/troubleshoot-mode-thunderbird Troubleshoot Mode]. If it helped then start in normal mode and if the problem returned:<small>
#Start Thunderbird in [https://support.mozilla.org/kb/troubleshoot-mode-thunderbird Troubleshoot Mode]. If it helped then start in normal mode and if the problem returned:<small>
#*Visit Add-ons and Themes - disable two or more extensions, themes or language packs at a time to determine which might be causing the problem. Are any in the [[#Other_Software|list of Problem Extensions]]?   
#*Visit Add-ons and Themes - disable two or more extensions, themes or language packs at a time to determine which might be causing the problem. Are any in the [[#Other_Software|list of Problem Extensions]]?   
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#* Do any Inbox or filtered folders have several thousand messages?  If so, especially for Inbox, consider deleting some messages or moving some to another folder with [https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/archived-messages Archive] or some other method.
#* Do any Inbox or filtered folders have several thousand messages?  If so, especially for Inbox, consider deleting some messages or moving some to another folder with [https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/archived-messages Archive] or some other method.
#* Are [https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/compacting-folders compacts] routinely performed?  Compact must be automatic or done regularly (at least weekly) using [https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/menu-reference#w_compact-folders manual File > Compact Folders]?</small>
#* Are [https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/compacting-folders compacts] routinely performed?  Compact must be automatic or done regularly (at least weekly) using [https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/menu-reference#w_compact-folders manual File > Compact Folders]?</small>
# Any remote Calendars?<small>
# Do you have any remote Calendars?<small>
#* Try disabling two or more calendars at a time.  
#* Try disabling two or more calendars at a time.  
#* If you have many recurring, never ending calendar appointments, try reducing the time period and number of them. Less likely starting with version 128's fix for {{bug|1844408}}. Examples: [https://www.reddit.com/r/Thunderbird/comments/16c89wo], [https://www.reddit.com/r/Thunderbird/comments/18ypd8r/comment/kgcyox8/]
#* If you have many recurring, never ending calendar appointments, try reducing the time period and number of them. Less likely starting with version 128's fix for {{bug|1844408}}. Examples: [https://www.reddit.com/r/Thunderbird/comments/16c89wo], [https://www.reddit.com/r/Thunderbird/comments/18ypd8r/comment/kgcyox8/]
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# If you see high CPU usage in Windows taskmgr, Mac activity manager, or linux top, sort the CPU column (details tab for Windows) to see if [http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?p=12641015#p12641015 mozilla updater.exe], Window's update or some other process is hogging CPU.
# If you see high CPU usage in Windows taskmgr, Mac activity manager, or linux top, sort the CPU column (details tab for Windows) to see if [http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?p=12641015#p12641015 mozilla updater.exe], Window's update or some other process is hogging CPU.
# If you have newsgroup accounts, then in Account Settings > Server Settings try disabling "Check for new messages at startup". <small>If problem is gone you may be seeing [https://groups.google.com/d/msg/mozilla.support.thunderbird/_6yvdz0de9g/9KJVVBqIAwAJ many newsgroups with many unread messages], {{bug|185634}}, {{Bug|541001}}, or [http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?p=9900989&sid=e32e1e42a3ddcac8c8605a1cbea6b2e8#p9900989].</small>  
# If you have newsgroup accounts, then in Account Settings > Server Settings try disabling "Check for new messages at startup". <small>If problem is gone you may be seeing [https://groups.google.com/d/msg/mozilla.support.thunderbird/_6yvdz0de9g/9KJVVBqIAwAJ many newsgroups with many unread messages], {{bug|185634}}, {{Bug|541001}}, or [http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?p=9900989&sid=e32e1e42a3ddcac8c8605a1cbea6b2e8#p9900989].</small>  
# If you have RSS feed reader accounts:
#* Is "Automatically create tags from feed category names" enabled? [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1342054]
#* In Account Settings > Server Settings disable "Check for new messages at startup". <small>If problem is gone you may be seeing {{Bug|551144}} (fixed in version 13).</small>
# Is your '''[https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/profiles-tb Thunderbird profile]''' or any part of Thunderbird <u>not</u> on a local disk? If not local, does it preform better when it is moved to the local disk?<small>
# Is your '''[https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/kb/profiles-tb Thunderbird profile]''' or any part of Thunderbird <u>not</u> on a local disk? If not local, does it preform better when it is moved to the local disk?<small>
#* Cloud storage is not supported.
#* Cloud storage is not supported.
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#* Check BIOS settings: [[http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?p=14773844#p14773844 hanging when sending messages if VT-x is enabled in BIOS]]
#* Check BIOS settings: [[http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?p=14773844#p14773844 hanging when sending messages if VT-x is enabled in BIOS]]
#* If Thunderbird is running in a VM (virtual machine), is it better when not virtualized?</small>
#* If Thunderbird is running in a VM (virtual machine), is it better when not virtualized?</small>
# Lower probability items:<small>
# Less common possibilities:<small>
#* Does turning off the Status Bar in View > Toolbars help improve performance?
#* Does turning off the Status Bar in View > Toolbars help improve performance?
#* Any Outlook or Hotmail accounts? {{Bug|1355885}}
#* Any Outlook or Hotmail accounts? {{Bug|1355885}}
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#* Do you use server side message filters to place messages in folders? {{Bug|589310}}
#* Do you use server side message filters to place messages in folders? {{Bug|589310}}
#* Do you have thousands of contacts in your address book? possible related issues:  google contacts add-on], [http://hogiblog.blogspot.com/2012/01/reducing-memory-usage-of-google.html?showComment=1333621724776#comment-c8055257360225747824]
#* Do you have thousands of contacts in your address book? possible related issues:  google contacts add-on], [http://hogiblog.blogspot.com/2012/01/reducing-memory-usage-of-google.html?showComment=1333621724776#comment-c8055257360225747824]
#* clear cache at Settings > General > Disk Space > "Clear Now" and Help > Troubleshooting Information > "Clear startup cache..."
#* If you have RSS feed reader accounts:
#** Is "Automatically create tags from feed category names" enabled? [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1342054]
#** In Account Settings > Server Settings disable "Check for new messages at startup". <small>If problem is gone you may be seeing {{Bug|551144}} (fixed in version 13).</small>
#* Does it help to clear cache at Settings > General > Disk Space > "Clear Now" and Help > Troubleshooting Information > "Clear startup cache..."?
#* On Linux? A package might be causing the problem [https://www.reddit.com/r/Thunderbird/comments/183tc5h/suddenly_slow_thunderbird_on_linux_gentoo_how_to/]. Are you running an old version? Consider updating. [http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?p=13605851#p13605851 hangs on Ubuntu 10.04, 14.04 works]
#* On Linux? A package might be causing the problem [https://www.reddit.com/r/Thunderbird/comments/183tc5h/suddenly_slow_thunderbird_on_linux_gentoo_how_to/]. Are you running an old version? Consider updating. [http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?p=13605851#p13605851 hangs on Ubuntu 10.04, 14.04 works]
#* On macOS, try disabling Thunderbird's access to Mac Contacts in Mac System Settings > Privacy & Security > Contacts.  
#* On macOS, try disabling Thunderbird's access to Mac Contacts in Mac System Settings > Privacy & Security > Contacts.  
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#* uninstall Thunderbird, then '''DELETE''' the Thunderbird '''PROGRAM''' directory (not the data directory), then [https://www.mozilla.org/thunderbird/ download], reinstall, and retest Thunderbird. If using beta get it from [https://www.thunderbird.net/download/beta/ channels].
#* uninstall Thunderbird, then '''DELETE''' the Thunderbird '''PROGRAM''' directory (not the data directory), then [https://www.mozilla.org/thunderbird/ download], reinstall, and retest Thunderbird. If using beta get it from [https://www.thunderbird.net/download/beta/ channels].
#*If [[#Memory Overview|Thunderbird memory usage is more than 1.5GB or more]] then folders may be corrupted or are not being closed. Please get a diagnostic log of Thunderbird activity with '''MSGDB:5,timestamp''' using [[MailNews:Logging|logging instructions]], then [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/enter_bug.cgi?product=Thunderbird&format=guided file a bug], and attach the zipped log file using "Add an attachment".</small>
#*If [[#Memory Overview|Thunderbird memory usage is more than 1.5GB or more]] then folders may be corrupted or are not being closed. Please get a diagnostic log of Thunderbird activity with '''MSGDB:5,timestamp''' using [[MailNews:Logging|logging instructions]], then [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/enter_bug.cgi?product=Thunderbird&format=guided file a bug], and attach the zipped log file using "Add an attachment".</small>
#If you have a reportable problem or question, please use the next section below.
#'''If none of the above helped, or you have a reportable problem or question, please use the next section below.'''
 
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== Report a problem ==
== Report a problem ==


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