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==Notes and Summary of Places meeting at Firefox 2006 Summit== | ==Notes and Summary of Places meeting at Firefox 2006 Summit== | ||
Five reoccurring themes | [[PlacesSummit2006|Attendees and information about the meeting]] | ||
==Five reoccurring themes== | |||
1) make improve history/bookmarks (search) smarter | 1) make improve history/bookmarks (search) smarter | ||
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5) seemless integration with bookmark service providers | 5) seemless integration with bookmark service providers | ||
List of issues and ideas raised at the summit | ==List of issues and ideas raised at the summit== | ||
1) data loss / corruption (dumping RDF to disk can fail, bookmarks appear to be gone on upgrade) find bug #s (fix) | 1) data loss / corruption (dumping RDF to disk can fail, bookmarks appear to be gone on upgrade) find bug #s (fix) | ||
2) unable to locate bookmarks you "known" you have (better search) | 2) unable to locate bookmarks you "known" you have (better search) | ||
3) no "public" bookmarks, less incentive to name them well (remote integration, tag integration) | 3) no "public" bookmarks, less incentive to name them well (remote integration, tag integration) | ||
4) not knowing that you can organize bookmarks, ending up with a giant list (no action) | 4) not knowing that you can organize bookmarks, ending up with a giant list (no action) | ||
5) no tags (tags are coming, imperative) | 5) no tags (tags are coming, imperative) | ||
6) unable to bookmark a particular spot on page (deep bookmarking theme) | 6) unable to bookmark a particular spot on page (deep bookmarking theme) | ||
7) no/bad search (search theme) | 7) no/bad search (search theme) | ||
8) making new bookmarks is too much work/clicks (extension, but: also fix ineffiency: add bookmark toolbar button, tag, star as in places, focus on the wrong thing, bug #) | 8) making new bookmarks is too much work/clicks (extension, but: also fix ineffiency: add bookmark toolbar button, tag, star as in places, focus on the wrong thing, bug #) | ||
9) no automatic bookmarking (good, extension), (if I type the url many times, it should automatically bookmarks) | 9) no automatic bookmarking (good, extension), (if I type the url many times, it should automatically bookmarks) | ||
10) no standards format for representing (leads to walled gardens), XBEL, "seemless integration with bookmark service providers" bucket | 10) no standards format for representing (leads to walled gardens), XBEL, "seemless integration with bookmark service providers" bucket | ||
11) bookmarks are designed for a quasi-permanent use case (scratch pad)...expand history, star history, thunder / dietrich please elaborate | 11) bookmarks are designed for a quasi-permanent use case (scratch pad)...expand history, star history, thunder / dietrich please elaborate | ||
12) I want to bookmark things like my bank statement (bookmark things with many steps, and login), deep bookmark bucket | 12) I want to bookmark things like my bank statement (bookmark things with many steps, and login), deep bookmark bucket | ||
13) visual real estate problems / hard to condense them visually (spotlight?), rethink url bar + search box, todo | 13) visual real estate problems / hard to condense them visually (spotlight?), rethink url bar + search box, todo | ||
14) url widget doesn't tie into bookmarks (smarter search bucket) | 14) url widget doesn't tie into bookmarks (smarter search bucket) | ||
15) automatically populated widgets hard to use (we accept extensions) | 15) automatically populated widgets hard to use (we accept extensions) | ||
16) people are unable to shore the state of a page - eg, order confirmation (deep theme) | |||
16) people are unable to shore the state of a page - eg, order confirmation | |||
(deep theme) | |||
17) the world just figured out hierarchies (so, don't get rid of folders) | 17) the world just figured out hierarchies (so, don't get rid of folders) | ||
18) sort is not useful, it breaks other previously done sort orders (bug #, we'll fix) | 18) sort is not useful, it breaks other previously done sort orders (bug #, we'll fix) | ||
19) categorizations vs need to remember (flag, vs star) | 19) categorizations vs need to remember (flag, vs star) | ||
20) some people use search exclusively (expose bm / history in search suggest, url bar, search box, make finding stream lined). bookmarks has to be faster, fewer clicks than google. when you search on google, you are already tagging. | 20) some people use search exclusively (expose bm / history in search suggest, url bar, search box, make finding stream lined). bookmarks has to be faster, fewer clicks than google. when you search on google, you are already tagging. | ||
21) remember search tearms when bookmarking, if we have it (extentesion idea), more meta data when bookmarking, use user action to create more meta data | 21) remember search tearms when bookmarking, if we have it (extentesion idea), more meta data when bookmarking, use user action to create more meta data | ||
22) some people only use bookmark personal toolbar (we'll keep it), dnd around in the toolbar make it better | 22) some people only use bookmark personal toolbar (we'll keep it), dnd around in the toolbar make it better | ||
23) history is too big to be able to effectively find items (better search) | 23) history is too big to be able to effectively find items (better search) | ||
24) more history meta data (use moz_anno, referrer data, thumb nail) | 24) more history meta data (use moz_anno, referrer data, thumb nail) | ||
25) need to have good ranking for searching bookmarks (weighted search, results) | 25) need to have good ranking for searching bookmarks (weighted search, results) | ||
26) people are already confused with url vs search bar (too many text boxes) | 26) people are already confused with url vs search bar (too many text boxes) | ||
27) offer thumb nails for bookmarked sites (extensions) | 27) offer thumb nails for bookmarked sites (extensions) | ||
28) platform approach: | |||
28) platform approach: spotlight, single search, multiple data type, can surface multiple things (smart search) | |||
29) ability to visualize user trails, history, click stream visualizing (extension bucket) | 29) ability to visualize user trails, history, click stream visualizing (extension bucket) | ||
30) 3 ways of tracking where you've been (session, history, bookmarks), smart search bucket (clarifying | |||
30) 3 ways of tracking where you've been (session, history, bookmarks), smart search bucket (clarifying distinction in search results), punt / extension? | |||
31) ability to get rid of independent session data (safari safe browsing) | 31) ability to get rid of independent session data (safari safe browsing) | ||
32) ability to group session info into one spot (not sure what this is), group by session | |||
32) ability to group session info into one spot (not sure what this is), group by session (if history has clump of urls in a small persion of time, call it a session) | |||
33) if we have one box for every kind of search, results are overwhelming | 33) if we have one box for every kind of search, results are overwhelming | ||
34) should need to think about bookmarks vs non bookmarked sites with (smart search, put bm sites into search results) | 34) should need to think about bookmarks vs non bookmarked sites with (smart search, put bm sites into search results) | ||
35) myk, don't want to get bm results when searching, only history (mutually exclusive), todo: plugins for url bar autocomplete, "for myk, classic mode" | |||
36) sometimes you want to bm the site, and not the url (foo.com/blah/chapter3.html) | 35) from myk, don't want to get bm results when searching, only history (mutually exclusive), todo: plugins for url bar autocomplete, "for myk, classic mode" | ||
36) sometimes you want to bm the site, and not the url (foo.com/blah/chapter3.html) (bookmarks the site, extension bucket) | |||
37) bookmarks are useful for storing things that are hard to search for (no action on this one) | 37) bookmarks are useful for storing things that are hard to search for (no action on this one) | ||
38) why no more extension (yes, we will make it ext. friendly) | 38) why no more extension (yes, we will make it ext. friendly) | ||
39) need to work to work extensions devs to come up with good interfaces (yes, we will) | 39) need to work to work extensions devs to come up with good interfaces (yes, we will) | ||
40) extension specific bm, bm only appear when a extension is installed (annotations), mkaply, please follow | 40) extension specific bm, bm only appear when a extension is installed (annotations), mkaply, please follow | ||
41) export / import to different formats | 41) export / import to different formats | ||