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== QA Org Items == | == QA Org Items == | ||
* New Hires & Interviews | * New Hires & Interviews | ||
** | ** Working on it (jbonacci) | ||
** Promoted BugMaster position on QMO Facebook page and Twitter | |||
* Community Members Onboarding | * Community Members Onboarding | ||
** item | ** item | ||
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** item | ** item | ||
* PTOs | * PTOs | ||
** | ** ashughes: Fri Apr 13, Thu Apr 19, Mon Apr 23, working remote every day in between | ||
== QA Team Updates == | == QA Team Updates == | ||
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=== Desktop Firefox (Juan) === | === Desktop Firefox (Juan) === | ||
* Fx.Next | * Fx.Next | ||
** | ** Mozmill w/Jenkins working for release testing (special thanks to davidg, davehunt, geo, whimboo) | ||
*** we can now run automation by simply uploading a cfg file to Jenkins | |||
*** this means Softvision can kick off our automation now if builds come out late at night | |||
*** ashughes will be documenting the process once it gets put through a live run | |||
* Firefox ESR (ashughes) | * Firefox ESR (ashughes) | ||
** | ** 10.0.4ESR going to build for a ''beta'' next week | ||
** Will also be testing warning billboards / hotfix for Win2k, Win XP SP1, and 3.6 EOL next week | |||
* Crash Investigation | * Crash Investigation | ||
** [https://wiki.mozilla.org/Platform/2012-04-10#Desktop Stability Report for this week] | ** [https://wiki.mozilla.org/Platform/2012-04-10#Desktop Stability Report for this week] | ||
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=== Browser Technologies (Tony) === | === Browser Technologies (Tony) === | ||
* | *Highlights | ||
** | ** Goals draft is up | ||
** Fennec working toward trimming beta blockers. theres now a "soft" triage section for softblockers. On target Apr 26th | |||
** Server team is busy with AITC, Token Server, and Sync server. Also, busy with BrowserID - hotfix and deployment this week. | |||
** B2G is working toward milestone 3, and taking on tagging/building of flash builds for now. Workweek in May | |||
*Fennec (Kevin/Aaron) | *Fennec (Kevin/Aaron) | ||
** | ** See https://wiki.mozilla.org/Mobile/Notes/11-Apr-2012#QA | ||
** Stability (nhirata) | ** Stability (nhirata) | ||
*** Stability getting better since the Maple merge. having said that there still needs some work done. | *** Stability getting better since the Maple merge. having said that there still needs some work done. | ||
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* Apps WebRT (David/Jason/Aaron) | * Apps WebRT (David/Jason/Aaron) | ||
** What happened this week? | ** What happened this week? | ||
*** | *** Finalized Q2 goals discussion for apps - Dissolved into goals for each team | ||
*** More digging into mobile web compatibility [https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0AiZoGR-iOAlUdHVQemJDVjBQSXdvc01QN1BiYm43QlE#gid=0 here] | |||
*** Initial exploratory testing of web apps integration into fennec native conducted for one feature currently landed | |||
** What's next? | ** What's next? | ||
*** | *** Finalize app quality checklist for developers | ||
*** On-going of test plans for web apps integration into desktop and android | |||
*** Starting test plan development for apps in the cloud client integration | |||
*** Get clarity on QA requirements for WebRT for marketplace beta release | |||
*** Continue doing web compatibility testing on mobile for gecko vs. webkit | |||
*Sync (Tracy) | *Sync (Tracy) | ||
** Android | ** Android | ||
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*** Form performance improvements landed | *** Form performance improvements landed | ||
** Desktop | ** Desktop | ||
*** A small train | *** A small train rolled out to m-c today. | ||
*** 2.0 client work being done in git. Nothing to test at this time, per gps. | *** 2.0 client work being done in git. Nothing to test at this time, per gps. | ||
*Test pilot (tracy) | *Test pilot (tracy) | ||
** UI Heatmap 2012 study had to go through a couple of iterations (jono on pto this week) | ** UI Heatmap 2012 study had to go through a couple of iterations. It is live. (jono on pto this week) | ||
*Sync Server (jbonacci/jrgm) | *Sync Server (jbonacci/jrgm) | ||
** | ** Functional and load test of AITC and TokenServer continues on qa1, qa2, and local installs | ||
** Functional and load test of AITC and TokenServer in Dev continues | |||
** Test planning for AITC and TokenServer in Stage | |||
** Rough draft AITC for April Test Plan is posted for review: https://mozqa.etherpad.mozilla.org/79 | |||
** QA team recruiting is just ramping up | |||
*BrowserID (jbonacci/jrgm) | *BrowserID (jbonacci/jrgm) | ||
** | ** Finishing up current train: Train 24: Bug 740272 - QA and deploy BrowserID train-2012.03.28 to production | ||
** "Final" BID team Q2 goals should be posted by Thursday | |||
*Pancake (nhirata) | *Pancake (nhirata) | ||
** Search mechanism changed | ** Search mechanism changed | ||
** Drive to try to release internally either today or tomorrow | ** Drive to try to release internally either today or tomorrow | ||
*** chances are at earliest it would be next week. Most likely the following week | *** chances are at earliest it would be next week. Most likely the following week | ||
*B2G (jhammink/Geo) | |||
**working on long range/M3 Test Plan for B2G | |||
***several new features in process of landing | |||
**Reviewing APIs and test pages with an eye on automation | |||
** Working with rest of dev team to get weekly candidate builds tagged and generated | |||
=== WebQA (Stephen) === | === WebQA (Stephen) === | ||
* Affiliates | * Affiliates | ||
** | ** Release being delayed until tomorrow to complete dev work | ||
** Moving to continuous deployment (we have statsd) | |||
* AMO | * AMO | ||
** | **Increased test coverage | ||
**Improving on making sure build is green | |||
* Careers page | |||
** Pushing out [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=744310 minor updates/fixes] | |||
* Marketplace | |||
** Getting litmus tests into tracker for selenium automation | |||
* Engagement Projects | * Engagement Projects | ||
** [https://mozillalabs.allizom.org/en-US/ Betafarm] will be released 4/16 | ** [https://mozillalabs.allizom.org/en-US/ Betafarm] will be released 4/16 | ||
** [https://air.allizom.org/ AirMozilla] theme refresh will be released 4/16 | ** [https://air.allizom.org/ AirMozilla] theme refresh will be released 4/16 | ||
* Mozilla.com | * Mozilla.com | ||
** | ** working on 2.0 release | ||
* Mozillians | * Mozillians | ||
** | ** Releasing today - [[bug 744473]] | ||
** New responsive UI hotness | |||
* MDN | * MDN | ||
** | ** [http://mzl.la/mdn_20120410_release release] shipped 4/10 | ||
** Working on next [http://mzl.la/mdn_20120424 release] | |||
* Socorro | * Socorro | ||
** | ** [http://bit.ly/HxybDP Milestone 6] released today | ||
** Automation is moving to [https://github.com/mozilla/Socorro-Tests/tree/webdriver WebDriver] - HUGE shout out to the team for doing the refactor! | |||
* SUMO | * SUMO | ||
** continuous deployment | ** continuous deployment | ||
** Supporting (and found issues with) a couple IT site moves from SJC -> SCL | |||
*** [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=741815 getpersonas.com] | |||
*** [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=743162 wiki.mozilla.org] | |||
* Selenium 2.21.0 is released | |||
** ...so we'll be taking a look at it soon (lots to work through) | |||
* Infrastructure | |||
** Getting access to our new [https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=741956 Selenium VMs in PHX] -- (private bug) hopefully today | |||
*** This means we should be able to run our tests and have them reporting in [https://ci.mozilla.org/ WebDev's CI] | |||
**** ...which means getting shared responsibility/coverage on tests should be a lot easier | |||
=== Community (Marcia) === | === Community (Marcia) === | ||
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* Upcoming Events | * Upcoming Events | ||
** MozCamp LATAM is progressing well | ** MozCamp LATAM is progressing well | ||
*** Juan, Marcia and John | *** Juan, Marcia and John Hammink attending | ||
*** John will present a BOF session on how to build B2G | *** John will present a BOF session on how to build B2G | ||
*** Meeting at 3 PM today to discuss the content of the Mobile Testing Workshop | |||
** Mini-MozCamp in Italy is at risk | ** Mini-MozCamp in Italy is at risk | ||
*** Not enough movement on planning. Might be better to postpone until the fall | *** Not enough movement on planning. Might be better to postpone until the fall | ||
* Video Work | * Video Work | ||
** | ** no update | ||
*QMO.next (Raymond): | *QMO.next (Raymond): | ||
** | ** no update | ||
=== | === Automation Development (Henrik, Dave) === | ||
==== General ==== | ==== General ==== | ||
* | * Working hard to get Mozmill 1.5.10 released soon | ||
* [http://www.hskupin.info/2012/04/07/memchaser-0-3-is-out/ MemChaser 0.3 has been released] | |||
* Next week we have our [https://intranet.mozilla.org/Auto-tools/SF_WorkWeek_April_2012 Auto-Tools work week] in San Francisco | |||
* | |||
* | |||
==== | ==== Projects ==== | ||
* | * Mozmill CI: On-demand solution is live and has been tested by Anthony against Firefox 12.0b5 candidate builds | ||
* Mozmill CI: Henrik is working to get coverage of beta candidate builds via Pulse by end of this week | |||
* Tests: Refactoring current Mozmill tests to make them compatible with Mozmill 2.0 | |||
===== [https://wiki.mozilla.org/QA/TCM MozTrap] ===== | ===== [https://wiki.mozilla.org/QA/TCM MozTrap] ===== | ||
* got some security / privacy feedback. addressing now. | |||
* Beginning dev work on case ID prefix (Ubuntu request) | * Beginning dev work on case ID prefix (Ubuntu request) | ||
* spec'ing out: | * spec'ing out: | ||
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== Roundtable/Discussion Items == | == Roundtable/Discussion Items == | ||
* Q2 Goals for Entire QA Organization (jsmith) | * [https://wiki.mozilla.org/Kilimanjaro/ProductDraft Kilimanjaro Draft] is publicized. Discuss QA strategy and approach (tchung) | ||
* [https://intranet.mozilla.org/QA/Q22012_QAgoals Q2 Goals] for Entire QA Organization (jsmith) | |||
* Switching meeting structure to new QA org (jsmith) | * Switching meeting structure to new QA org (jsmith) | ||
** Desktop | ** Desktop | ||
** Mobile | ** Mobile | ||
** | ** Services | ||
** Web | ** Web | ||
** Automation | ** Automation | ||
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=== Today === | === Today === | ||
* | * Action Items | ||
** | ** Contact Jason or Tony if you are interested in joining the Monday 1 PM Web App meeting. | ||
** Krupa to lead the effort to create a description of a "good" bug | |||
** Reference http://www.lehigh.edu/~inhro/documents/SMART_GoalsHandout.pdf when refining your goals. | |||
** Think about ways we can improve the ways people use Bugzilla, Github to communicate within the project. | |||
** Geo will refine the QA weekly staff meeting template and add a Kilimanjaro section | |||
** Figure out the best way to use the Mac Minis. | |||
* Notes | |||
** Try to use other channels to talk besides IRC | |||
** Try to help each other out with Test Days - get out of your area for a bit | |||
** Very small desktop team - the rest of the team needs to help when asked because the platform is our bread and butter. | |||
** Dogfood your android device :) and help with the mobile effort | |||
** If someone seems slammed, ask them if they need help. | |||
** 50 Mac Minis are available for our use - see the email that Bob sent | |||
=== Last Meeting === | === Last Meeting === | ||
* Action Items | * Action Items | ||
** | ** | ||
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QA Staff Meeting Notes April 11, 2012
Meeting Details
# Every Weds @ 1:30p Pacific Time - Mozilla HQ, Warp Core # # Vidyo: https://v.mozilla.com/flex.html?roomdirect.html&key=UK1zyrd7Vhym # Phone: +1 650 903 0800 or 650-215-1282 x92 Conf# 95312 (US/INTL) # +1 800 707 2533 (pin 369) Conf# 95312 (US Toll Free) # +1 416 848 3114 x92 Conf# 95312 (Canada) # IRC: irc://irc.mozilla.org:6697/#qa
QA Org Items
- New Hires & Interviews
- Working on it (jbonacci)
- Promoted BugMaster position on QMO Facebook page and Twitter
- Community Members Onboarding
- item
- Upcoming Events
- item
- PTOs
- ashughes: Fri Apr 13, Thu Apr 19, Mon Apr 23, working remote every day in between
QA Team Updates
Desktop Firefox (Juan)
- Fx.Next
- Mozmill w/Jenkins working for release testing (special thanks to davidg, davehunt, geo, whimboo)
- we can now run automation by simply uploading a cfg file to Jenkins
- this means Softvision can kick off our automation now if builds come out late at night
- ashughes will be documenting the process once it gets put through a live run
- Mozmill w/Jenkins working for release testing (special thanks to davidg, davehunt, geo, whimboo)
- Firefox ESR (ashughes)
- 10.0.4ESR going to build for a beta next week
- Will also be testing warning billboards / hotfix for Win2k, Win XP SP1, and 3.6 EOL next week
- Crash Investigation
- Stability Report for this week
- If you have cycles try to help reproduce bug 741179. We don't want to ship FF 12 with that bug.
Browser Technologies (Tony)
- Highlights
- Goals draft is up
- Fennec working toward trimming beta blockers. theres now a "soft" triage section for softblockers. On target Apr 26th
- Server team is busy with AITC, Token Server, and Sync server. Also, busy with BrowserID - hotfix and deployment this week.
- B2G is working toward milestone 3, and taking on tagging/building of flash builds for now. Workweek in May
- Fennec (Kevin/Aaron)
- See https://wiki.mozilla.org/Mobile/Notes/11-Apr-2012#QA
- Stability (nhirata)
- Stability getting better since the Maple merge. having said that there still needs some work done.
- see Crash Report and related Socorro work for details.
- Apps WebRT (David/Jason/Aaron)
- What happened this week?
- Finalized Q2 goals discussion for apps - Dissolved into goals for each team
- More digging into mobile web compatibility here
- Initial exploratory testing of web apps integration into fennec native conducted for one feature currently landed
- What's next?
- Finalize app quality checklist for developers
- On-going of test plans for web apps integration into desktop and android
- Starting test plan development for apps in the cloud client integration
- Get clarity on QA requirements for WebRT for marketplace beta release
- Continue doing web compatibility testing on mobile for gecko vs. webkit
- What happened this week?
- Sync (Tracy)
- Android
- Some more bookmark folder reconciling work done
- Password work still in holding pattern
- Form performance improvements landed
- Desktop
- A small train rolled out to m-c today.
- 2.0 client work being done in git. Nothing to test at this time, per gps.
- Android
- Test pilot (tracy)
- UI Heatmap 2012 study had to go through a couple of iterations. It is live. (jono on pto this week)
- Sync Server (jbonacci/jrgm)
- Functional and load test of AITC and TokenServer continues on qa1, qa2, and local installs
- Functional and load test of AITC and TokenServer in Dev continues
- Test planning for AITC and TokenServer in Stage
- Rough draft AITC for April Test Plan is posted for review: https://mozqa.etherpad.mozilla.org/79
- QA team recruiting is just ramping up
- BrowserID (jbonacci/jrgm)
- Finishing up current train: Train 24: Bug 740272 - QA and deploy BrowserID train-2012.03.28 to production
- "Final" BID team Q2 goals should be posted by Thursday
- Pancake (nhirata)
- Search mechanism changed
- Drive to try to release internally either today or tomorrow
- chances are at earliest it would be next week. Most likely the following week
- B2G (jhammink/Geo)
- working on long range/M3 Test Plan for B2G
- several new features in process of landing
- Reviewing APIs and test pages with an eye on automation
- Working with rest of dev team to get weekly candidate builds tagged and generated
- working on long range/M3 Test Plan for B2G
WebQA (Stephen)
- Affiliates
- Release being delayed until tomorrow to complete dev work
- Moving to continuous deployment (we have statsd)
- AMO
- Increased test coverage
- Improving on making sure build is green
- Careers page
- Pushing out minor updates/fixes
- Marketplace
- Getting litmus tests into tracker for selenium automation
- Engagement Projects
- Betafarm will be released 4/16
- AirMozilla theme refresh will be released 4/16
- Mozilla.com
- working on 2.0 release
- Mozillians
- Releasing today - bug 744473
- New responsive UI hotness
- MDN
- Socorro
- Milestone 6 released today
- Automation is moving to WebDriver - HUGE shout out to the team for doing the refactor!
- SUMO
- continuous deployment
- Supporting (and found issues with) a couple IT site moves from SJC -> SCL
- Selenium 2.21.0 is released
- ...so we'll be taking a look at it soon (lots to work through)
- Infrastructure
- Getting access to our new Selenium VMs in PHX -- (private bug) hopefully today
- This means we should be able to run our tests and have them reporting in WebDev's CI
- ...which means getting shared responsibility/coverage on tests should be a lot easier
- This means we should be able to run our tests and have them reporting in WebDev's CI
- Getting access to our new Selenium VMs in PHX -- (private bug) hopefully today
Community (Marcia)
- Upcoming Events
- MozCamp LATAM is progressing well
- Juan, Marcia and John Hammink attending
- John will present a BOF session on how to build B2G
- Meeting at 3 PM today to discuss the content of the Mobile Testing Workshop
- Mini-MozCamp in Italy is at risk
- Not enough movement on planning. Might be better to postpone until the fall
- MozCamp LATAM is progressing well
- Video Work
- no update
- QMO.next (Raymond):
- no update
Automation Development (Henrik, Dave)
General
- Working hard to get Mozmill 1.5.10 released soon
- MemChaser 0.3 has been released
- Next week we have our Auto-Tools work week in San Francisco
Projects
- Mozmill CI: On-demand solution is live and has been tested by Anthony against Firefox 12.0b5 candidate builds
- Mozmill CI: Henrik is working to get coverage of beta candidate builds via Pulse by end of this week
- Tests: Refactoring current Mozmill tests to make them compatible with Mozmill 2.0
MozTrap
- got some security / privacy feedback. addressing now.
- Beginning dev work on case ID prefix (Ubuntu request)
- spec'ing out:
- automation connector
- global, sticky "Product" filter
- test run tags features (for Ubuntu and Kilimanjaro)
- 2012 goals are specified
Roundtable/Discussion Items
- Kilimanjaro Draft is publicized. Discuss QA strategy and approach (tchung)
- Q2 Goals for Entire QA Organization (jsmith)
- Switching meeting structure to new QA org (jsmith)
- Desktop
- Mobile
- Services
- Web
- Automation
- Community
- From last meeting: Cross QA Team Collaboration Reflection - Come prepared at next staff to do this (jsmith)
Notes, Takeaways and Action Items
Today
- Action Items
- Contact Jason or Tony if you are interested in joining the Monday 1 PM Web App meeting.
- Krupa to lead the effort to create a description of a "good" bug
- Reference http://www.lehigh.edu/~inhro/documents/SMART_GoalsHandout.pdf when refining your goals.
- Think about ways we can improve the ways people use Bugzilla, Github to communicate within the project.
- Geo will refine the QA weekly staff meeting template and add a Kilimanjaro section
- Figure out the best way to use the Mac Minis.
- Notes
- Try to use other channels to talk besides IRC
- Try to help each other out with Test Days - get out of your area for a bit
- Very small desktop team - the rest of the team needs to help when asked because the platform is our bread and butter.
- Dogfood your android device :) and help with the mobile effort
- If someone seems slammed, ask them if they need help.
- 50 Mac Minis are available for our use - see the email that Bob sent
Last Meeting
- Action Items