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Meeting Details

  • 1:00pm Pacific time (21:00 UTC until March 9, 2008)
  • Mozilla HQ, 1st floor conference table
  • +1 650 903 0800 x91 Conf# 8600 (US/International)
  • +1 416 848 3114 x91 Conf# 8600 (Canada)
  • +1 800 707 2533 (pin 369) Conf# 8600 (US Toll Free)
  • join irc.mozilla.org #staffmeeting for backchannel

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Friends of the Tree Friends of the Tree

Jeff Walden & Reed Loden nominate Jesse Ruderman. "One man, one week, 295 crashtests. Zounds." Reed provides this link and this link.

Seth Spitzer nominates Phil Ringnalda "for his recent work in finding, logging, and fixing bugs with our livemark code."

Ted Mielczarek nominates Ben Hearsum. "He's done a lot of work setting up a VM to build the MozillaBuild installer, which is totally arcane work, and has been a huge help, and it wasn't at all his responsibility."

Chris Hofmann nominates Mary Colvig for her awesome work making FOSS.in happen.

I (asa) would like to nominate Seth Spitzer as a friend of the tree for his consistent participation in the Friends of the Tree program and for always trying to make sure Mozilla contributors are recognized and thanked.

Development Updates

Fx / TB

Thunderbird is currently in beta. It will be released Wednesday, 12/19, at 3:00 PM if no new issues are found or reported.

There is some debate about when to do the Major Update because of holiday schedules. That should be worked out this week.

Firefox planning has not begun at this time but triaging of bugs will begin this week for that release.

TB 3

Gecko 1.9

Firefox 3

  • Status on beta 3
    • 24 P1s
    • 57 P2s
    • approvals to continue over the holidays, but latency will be higher than normal

Calendar Project


  • PHP5 migrations completed
  • Kernel upgrades completed
  • Kubla live!
  • .cn datacenter is up, sites to come up in the next few weeks
  • Holiday coverage - oncall at mozilla.org will be covered 24x7


  • TB1.5.0.14 shipping Wed 19th, not Fri 21st
  • FF3.0b2 created using automation on trunk
    • lots of first-time-live small-details-hiccups; build very busy last week
    • big schedule gain. Release *ahead* of schedule - Tue 18th not Fri 21st?
    • still working through bug#408610 about alpha2/3/4 users; possible showstopper?


ThunderBird [abillings-lead]

  • This was pushed to the Beta Channel after testing bug fixes, smoke testing, BFTs, update channels, L10n, etc. [abillings, stephend, marcoz, juanb]

Firefox 3 [tchung-lead]

  • Testing Beta 2: Completed: Smoke tests, BFTs, memory leak teesting, Top extension checks, P1 local spot checks, accessibility, Betatest channel update testing, community test day. [tchung,tracy, others]
  • Places feature testing - general bugmail triage and filingnew bugs along with verified 15 bugs
  • Continued work on Download Manager--Edward Lee is keeping stephend busy :-)
  • Continued work on Location Bar--both Litmus and bug verifications [stephend]
  • Filed [Bug+creation&chfieldvalue=&cmdtype=doit&order=Reuse+same+sort+as+last+time&field0-0-0=noop&type0-0-0=noop&value0-0-0=Bug|a number of bugs in the Layout, ImageLib, autocomplete areas]. [mw22]
  • We are working out which locales to test for B2. See here. We are also planning to test 3 languages for the first round of testing by our skilled language testers at Smartware.
  • Litmus cleanup: cleaned up/restructured Microsummaries, Layout, General and all "Security" related subgroups [tracy, marcia]
  • Creating a set of 3 profiles on Windows, Mac and Linux for trunk testing [marcia]

Partner testing

  • Yahoo!Japan and Google Fx3b1 spot checks [tracy, tomcat]

Webdev testing: Planning on testing Remora

Test Automation:

  • Added more tests to the Eggplant automated Security tests [tracy, bc]
  • js test automation (sisyphus) - linux and mac (ppc) reporting results for both branch and trunk. Windows will be setup early in Q1.


  • Finished re-building download/install/uninstall functionality in Python
  • Returned Minotaur to NOT requiring cygwin for partner build automation
  • Created a Minotaur VM on Windows XP and sent it to Tracy, Tomcat and Tchung for partner/L10N testing.


  • Talos try server is running and reporting to mozillatest tinderbox tree
  • created 4 reporting vista talos machines


  • Bug day was on Tuesday, Dec 11th.
  • We held a Firefox 3 B2 test day on Fri Dec 14th. See the results here and here. 28 community testers joined us!
  • Last Test Day for 2007 is on Fri, Dec 21st. It will be focused on testing Firefox 3, Beta 2.
  • Selected Airbag Industries to help us with the QMO redesign. They will be doing the information architecture and visual design for the site (Phase 1). [jay]
  • Compiled survey questions to ask the general Mozilla QA Community; need to create survey online (decided to go with http://www.surveygizmo.com) [jay]



  • FOSS.IN a success - join us for brown bag on 12/19 at 12:30 p.m.
  • Recent experiment with our online marketing programs: does search advertising lead to more downloads? Findings and analysis will be posted shortly.
  • Please send contact info if you have it on the kid who got detention for using Firefox; we'll send a care package right away. Looks like this was a hoax.


  • Worked with Stanisław Małolepszy and Seth Bindernagel on a community user-to-user support survey. Objectives:
    1. To understand and measure how Mozilla is doing with product support in the different locales.
    2. To get a better understanding on people's perception of the SUMO project and its scope.
    3. To find out how can we make SUMO more useful.



SVG initiative status

  • Review open bugs with patches we could land in Fx3 (done)
  • Collect some SVG samples to help gauge Mozilla SVG implementations support and performance (done)
  • Collect some samples of SVG demos (done)
  • Revamp SVG landing page on MDC (inprogress)
  • Add some SVG code snippets on MDC (inprogress)
  • Create a summary doc on the state of Mozilla SVG [inprogress]
  • Create a list of use cases for using SVG in web development [inprogress]

JavaScript 2

Mobile Work

For the Record basic operations are go. The necessary pages and tools for the full workflow exist and we've started taking a few items through the process.


  • New Firefox 3 for developers page is online and the final touches on the major documents are going into place the next few days.

Mozilla Labs

  • Extend Firefox
    • 50 entries to date, contest ends Dec. 31, 2007
    • Thanks to all who are helping with extension testing, let Rhian know if you are still interested
  • Personas
    • Site launched
    • Thanks to fligtar for his help getting this site up.

Webdev, Add-ons, AMO

  • Breakpad
    • Reduced recurrence of exceptions due to corrupt JSONs
    • Reduced processorLoopTime to increase throughput of processor(s)
    • System should be snappier and able to keep up with submission rate now
    • If you have any problems let morgamic know
  • AMO
  • Kubla went live last week
  • Personas work

Foundation Updates


Other Business