Thunderbird/StatusMeetings/2008-06-24

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Thunderbird Meeting Details

Agenda

Action Items

  • Hg integration of calendar (see long thread on the planning newsgroup)
    • Philip and KaiRo were here, but not bsmedberg, so punting
    • dmose to set up next meeting
    • Other issues:
      • Scalability
      • Easier to go from two repos to one than vice versa (?)
      • hg has slower initial download (is it important?)
      • What should the structure be?
  • How should we plan to QA alpha2?
    • nth10sd's last week -> need new QA
    • 5 platforms for litmus test & BST for Windows
      • XP, Vista, OS X (PPC), OS X (Intel), Linux
      • Need someone to take up head QA (wsmwk?)
      • One person to take each (one could take multiple platforms)
  • Future milestones
    • Current schedule gives for 5 milestones through March
    • RC 1 in January or March?
      • January - beta 1 comes after alpha 2
      • March - less time for slippage
    • Date-driven release, not feature-driven
    • Probably better to do sooner rather than shiny new features

Closed

  • Use of priorities
    • Not much use for wanted-alpha, use priorities instead?
    • blocking-alpha, blocking-3, wanted-3 keep
    • No objections to strategy

Thunderbird:Shredder a2

  • Blockers:
    • Most (all but two) with an owner
    • Keep list shrinking

QA Updates

  • bugday keeps on chugging
    • last week set yet another new record for bugs changed and touched
    • From the current foci: IMAP UNCOnfirmed dropped 16% in last 12 days, estimate similar if not greater drop in next 2 weeks; UNCOnfirmed "recent bugs with no responses" and "General" - counts not going up, but also not going down
    • this week - hopefully with 3 staffed sessions (more likely 2?)
  • Note the impending bmo reorg (date TBD), and concurrent, proposed mailnews cleanup. Feedback needed. bugmail warning
  • The above activities affect the mailnews subset of bugs from previously proposed "patch day", which intends to review and clean up "old patches". The proposed mailnews cleanup suggests triaging/touching this subset now, before the reorg+cleanup hits.

Roundtable

Status Updates

dmose

  • work days with Emre & David
  • met with MoFo Executive Director candidate
  • roadmap work (hope to have a draft up tonight)
  • more module-owner stuff
    • myk has agreed to be a peer of an (unowned) RSS module
  • lots of misc community stuff; a few reviews

nth10sd

  • last formal week of internship
    • no worries, I will still be around in IRC / Bugzilla / email though. :)
    • may be sporadic in the next few weeks after Friday though.
    • all in all, I hope I finish my internship with Thunderbird in a better state than it was in, when I first started months ago.
  • last bugday was amazing, see QA updates above.
  • (ongoing) discussions about impact of Bugzilla reorg.
  • poking ppl wrt. old Thunderbird security bugs, e.g. bug 360800
  • fixed a Javascript hang in Firefox 2 / Thunderbird 2. bug 437288

Standard8

  • Reviews
  • Address Book
    • bug 439320 Use timed textbox for quick searches
    • bug 437619 Unfork and co-locate the common js code relating to the results pane window
      • Currently awaiting reviews, once this is fixed will be able to fix bug 438035 which will fix the issues with nsAbView
  • Automated Testing
    • Most of POP3 fakeserver implementation written, some issues with socket closing/reconnection. Possibly won't pick up again until after Shredder a2.
  • Autocomplete
    • bug 370306 Local Address Book autocomplete is now running on toolkit interfaces
    • bug 441530 Toolkit autocomplete incorrectly sets "nomatch" attribute (almost ready for review)
    • bug 441526 Implement highlightNonMatches, patch written, needs tests and possible xpfe port.
    • Suspect the autofillonmatch will require interface changes, won't be suitable for 1.9.0 branch.
  • Password Manager
    • Started to document more information about MailNews and how Password Management/URLs/protocol handlers currently work, to try and get my head around the issues we are facing.
  • OS X Address Book
    • Found a potential fix for bug 439475 (deleting OS X AB items), needs a bit more work
    • 4 other OS X bugs outstanding, suspect 2 are related.
  • Misc
    • bug 440513 Improve contextual information for delete menu option in the address book (awaiting reviews)

asuth

bienvenu

  • Reviews
  • Two day information exchange with Emre and Dmose
  • Fixed test harness to generate profile paths consistent with apps
  • Fixed offline deleted IMAP messages reappearing briefly and disappearing, bug 440219
  • Fixed removing all tags from local messages bug 439132
  • Fixed problem with IMAP message counts after filters fire, bug 439380

emre

gozer

  • Filled a bunch of forms, getting keys to our new place, good.
  • Linux RefPlatform rebuilt and automated
  • Buildbot Master up and running
    • No external access yet
    • Can interact thru thunderbot for now
  • Buildbot Linux slave up, running and producing working builds
  • Finally untangled MSDN, getting the media I need
    • Win32 Buildbot imminent
  • IRC Log bot up and running, needs some discussion on transparency/access
  • Primary Sun Fire X4150 possibly died
    • Might be fixable, might need Sun Support bug 441558
    • Validated current setup, moving all 3 VMs over to another X4150 took < 5 minutes.
  • Nagios up and running, even if minimal
  • Blogged some, gotta blog some more

clarkbw

wsmwk

  • Research and planning for bugday and proposed mailnews cleanup. Feedback wanted.
  • Triage

rick

jcranmer

  • Some bug triage (seen every UNCO in wsmwk's news query)
  • Addressing dmose's bug 413260 comments
  • Implementing morkreader
    • Done, except for an nsTArray crash, tests, and actually using it
  • bug 418551 (de-morkification in folder cache) profiling and work
  • Fixing bug 437886 (needed for account type as extension)
  • Fixing bug 428614 (crasher)
  • Updating NNTP fakeserver and adding tests for bug 16913
    • NNTP fakeserver can now be used for QA purposes
    • Still need fakeserver usage documentation

beckley

  • Added UI for filter contexts: bug 440635
    • Needs ui-review from clarkbw
  • Adding code to do manual filtering on selected messages in a mailbox
  • Awaiting dmose final comment on bug 359226 whether or not Thunderbird needs the redirect UI or it should just remain in Penelope

Attendees

nth10sd, dmose, wsmwk, davida, standard8, gozer, Philip, Kairo, bienvenu, jcranmer, asuth, emre

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