Apps/StatusMeetings/Engineering/2012-09-19
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- Time: Wednesday, 2012 September 19, 9:05 - 9:55am PT (16:05 - 16:55 UTC)
 - Backchannel:
 - Virtual Location:
 - Physical Locations:
- Mountain View: 3A - All Your Base
 - San Francisco: 324 - Bay Bridge
 
 - Audio-only Access:
- +1-650-903-0800 or +1-650-215-1282, x92, conf#: 98652 (US/INTL)
 - +1-800-707-2533, pin: 369, conf#: 98652 (US toll free)
 
 - etherpad for taking minutes
 
Agenda
P1 Firefox OS Basecamp
- Significant Updates
- [jsmith] Blocklisting for Apps - see bug 792309
 - [jsmith] More Firefox OS UA discussion in relation to hardware tokens - see discussion
 - [jsmith] window.open and off-origin content - see discussion
 - [jsmith] App Install specs - see discussion
 - [jsmith] Proof of concept testing has been looked at for mozPay against mock payment provider
- Followups - #4879, #4878, #4866
 - Hosted test cases - github repo
 
 
 - Checkin/Status on Major Challenges
- [pmpcat] payments update
 
 - Questions and Concerns
- [jsmith] Note - If any marketplace items needs to be done before v1 ships, please be sure to flag with the basecamp+ flag
 - [jsmith] Need resolution on what do with third party apps making use of Web Activities for v1 across validator, reviews, and dev docs
 - [jsmith] We need to stay on top of our dev doc bugs - see tracking bug
 
 
P2/3 Other Projects
- Significant Updates
- [jsmith] Dogfooding! Please try out the Android Web Apps feature on device and file bugs!
 - [jsmith] 4 blockers - see tracking page here for more information
 - [jsmith] The decision about marketplace promos on Android
 
 - Checkin/Status on Major Challenges
 - Questions and Concerns
- [jsmith] The Android Story - Marketplace & Android WebRT alignment
 
 
Minutes
blocklisting of apps
- won't have time to do anything on the device side for v1
 - our plan is to disable the app in the marketplace and then push an app update that disables it for users
 - adora needs to know about this
 - people with admin privileges include ibai's team and adora's team
 - only one team should have ownership of it, probably adora's
 
- -> pmpcat to loop adora into conversation about blocklisting apps
 
- blocklisting will only apply to privileged apps in v1
 - we won't be able to blocklist all apps installed through mozilla store
 - since we don't do updates for hosted apps
 
- our goal is to keep users on the latest versions of apps
 - so we aren't going to support blocklisting of specific versions of apps
 - this is an 80% solution for v1; we may do more later
 
Firefox OS UA string
- more Firefox OS UA discussion in relation to hardware tokens
 - see discussion if interested
 - https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/mozilla.dev.platform/sT7ux6B8gQ0
 
window.open and off-origin content
- more discussion about this; new proposal for UX
 - counter-argument is that any UI we present can be spoofed
 - https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/mozilla.dev.gaia/ssB7q6N5s9g
 
app install specs
mozPay
- jsmith doing proof-of-concept testing for mozPay against mock payment provider
 
open questions from Marketplace team
- major remaining one is signing
 - bsmith is working on platform implementation, doesn't have answers yet
 - -> overholt to talk to bsmith about coordinating with Marketplace team
 - -> overholt to talk to josh about possibility of getting more help from network team
 - bsmith is overloaded: webrtc, signing, firefox 16, B2G firmware OTA updates
 
- additional questions in https://etherpad.mozilla.org/scratchpad
 - -> robhudson to contact sicking with outstanding questions about Marketplace integration with platform
 
payments
- kumar leading charge on identity along with jedp and lucas
 - doing vendor assessments for various payment processors for new payment model
 - chance that we could implement it prior to v2, possibly even v1!
 
- but stay the course until someone says differently!
 - stay tuned; we'll let you know as soon as anything changes
 
basecamp+ flag
- if anything needs to be done for v1, flag it with basecamp+!
 - -> pmpcat to contact morgamic about triaging Marketplace bugs regularly for basecamp blocking status while clouserw on PTO
 - -> pmpcat to contact clouserw about triaging Marketplace bugs regularly for basecamp blocking status once he's back from PTO
 
third-party apps using web activities
- need to make sure documentation reflects chance that spec/implementation will change
 
dev doc bugs
- list is expanding significantly
 - we need to stay on top of it
 - markg is on it
 
r2d2b2g
- looks like a big win for hack days
 - huge potential, warrants investment
 - also helpful for crowdsourcing for testing, where we need feedback from people willing to pick up builds and find problems
 - stormy's team talking about funding outsourcing of developer
 - -> myk to talk to karenw about possibilities for future development of r2d2b2g
 
android webapps
- we have an implementation! you should test it and file bugs
 - we need people to start dogfooding it
 - email jsmith if you don't know how to file a bug
 - -> jsmith to contact aaronmt about docs for testing android webapps
 
- is the marketplace supposed to work right now? all I get is "check back later"
 - -> krupa to look into roadblock on development version of marketplace
 
- ask in #amo or #marketplace if you can't get access to marketplace!
 
android blockers
marketplace promos on Android
- current plan is to leave them enabled on nightly/aurora
 - on october 8, we're going to make a decision whether or not to leave them enabled on beta
 - android project team owns the decision
 
Android Story - Marketplace & Android WebRT alignment
- concern about alignment between Marketplace team and Android WebRT teams
 - right now if you go to Marketplace on Android it isn't optimized for Android screen sizes
 - discussions took place in the Marketplace meeting last week
 - potch owns the goal of making sure we can optimize for Android
 - there are bugs filed to get this done
 - we can make it a priority to get done this week
 
- there's a misalignment of date: october 8 is deadline for decision about android webapp implementation, but marketplace doesn't prioritize android support until one of their november releases
 - question of whether we can pull forward android marketplace priorities into october
 
Actions
- pmpcat to loop adora into conversation about blocklisting apps
 - overholt to talk to bsmith about coordinating with Marketplace team
 - overholt to talk to josh about possibility of getting more help from network team
 - robhudson to contact sicking with outstanding questions about Marketplace integration
 - pmpcat to contact morgamic about triaging Marketplace bugs regularly for basecamp blocking status while clouserw on PTO
 - pmpcat to contact clouserw about triaging Marketplace bugs regularly for basecamp blocking status once clouserw back from PTO
 - myk to talk to karenw about possibilities for future development of r2d2b2g
 - jsmith to contact aaronmt about docs for testing android webapps
 - krupa to look into roadblock on development version of marketplace