Details

• Time: Wednesday, 2012 September 19, 9:05 - 9:55am PT (16:05 - 16:55 UTC)
• Backchannel:
  • irc.mozilla.org #openwebapps
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  • "Mozilla Apps" Vidyo room
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  • Mountain View: 3A - All Your Base
  • San Francisco: 324 - Bay Bridge
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• etherpad for taking minutes

Agenda

P1 Firefox OS Basecamp

• Significant Updates
  • [jsmith] Blocklisting for Apps - see bug 792309
  • [jsmith] More Firefox OS UA discussion in relation to hardware tokens - see discussion
  • [jsmith] window.open and off-origin content - see discussion
  • [jsmith] App Install specs - see discussion
  • [jsmith] Proof of concept testing has been looked at for mozPay against mock payment provider
    • Followups - #4879, #4878, #4866
    • Hosted test cases - github repo
• Checkin/Status on Major Challenges
  • [pmpcat] payments update
• Questions and Concerns
  • [jsmith] Note - If any marketplace items needs to be done before v1 ships, please be sure to flag with the basecamp+ flag
  • [jsmith] Need resolution on what do with third party apps making use of Web Activities for v1 across validator, reviews, and dev docs
  • [jsmith] We need to stay on top of our dev doc bugs - see tracking bug

P2/3 Other Projects

• Significant Updates
  • [jsmith] Dogfooding! Please try out the Android Web Apps feature on device and file bugs!
  • [jsmith] 4 blockers - see tracking page here for more information
  • [jsmith] The decision about marketplace promos on Android
• Checkin/Status on Major Challenges
• Questions and Concerns
  • [jsmith] The Android Story - Marketplace & Android WebRT alignment

Minutes

blocklisting of apps

• won't have time to do anything on the device side for v1
• our plan is to disable the app in the marketplace and then push an app update that disables it for users
• adora needs to know about this
• people with admin privileges include ibai's team and adora's team
• only one team should have ownership of it, probably adora's

• -> pmpcat to loop adora into conversation about blocklisting apps

• blocklisting will only apply to privileged apps in v1
• we won't be able to blocklist all apps installed through mozilla store
• since we don't do updates for hosted apps

• our goal is to keep users on the latest versions of apps
• so we aren't going to support blocklisting of specific versions of apps
• this is an 80% solution for v1; we may do more later

Firefox OS UA string

• more Firefox OS UA discussion in relation to hardware tokens
• see discussion if interested
• https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/mozilla.dev.platform/sT7ux6B8gQ0

window.open and off-origin content

• more discussion about this; new proposal for UX
• counter-argument is that any UI we present can be spoofed
• https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/mozilla.dev.gaia/ssB7q6N5s9g

app install specs

• being developed
• https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/mozilla.dev.gaia/Mwv3YiQmVng

mozPay

• jsmith doing proof-of-concept testing for mozPay against mock payment provider

open questions from Marketplace team

• major remaining one is signing
• bsmith is working on platform implementation, doesn't have answers yet
• -> overholt to talk to bsmith about coordinating with Marketplace team
• -> overholt to talk to josh about possibility of getting more help from network team
• bsmith is overloaded: webrtc, signing, firefox 16, B2G firmware OTA updates

• additional questions in https://etherpad.mozilla.org/scratchpad
• -> robhudson to contact sicking with outstanding questions about Marketplace integration with platform

payments

• kumar leading charge on identity along with jedp and lucas
• doing vendor assessments for various payment processors for new payment model
• chance that we could implement it prior to v2, possibly even v1!

• but stay the course until someone says differently!
• stay tuned; we'll let you know as soon as anything changes

basecamp+ flag

• if anything needs to be done for v1, flag it with basecamp+!
• -> pmpcat to contact morgamic about triaging Marketplace bugs regularly for basecamp blocking status while clouserw on PTO
• -> pmpcat to contact clouserw about triaging Marketplace bugs regularly for basecamp blocking status once he's back from PTO

third-party apps using web activities

• need to make sure documentation reflects chance that spec/implementation will change

dev doc bugs

• list is expanding significantly
• we need to stay on top of it
• markg is on it

r2d2b2g

• looks like a big win for hack days
• huge potential, warrants investment
• also helpful for crowdsourcing for testing, where we need feedback from people willing to pick up builds and find problems
• stormy's team talking about funding outsourcing of developer
• -> myk to talk to karenw about possibilities for future development of r2d2b2g

android webapps

• we have an implementation! you should test it and file bugs
• we need people to start dogfooding it
• email jsmith if you don't know how to file a bug
• -> jsmith to contact aaronmt about docs for testing android webapps

• is the marketplace supposed to work right now? all I get is "check back later"
• -> krupa to look into roadblock on development version of marketplace

• ask in #amo or #marketplace if you can't get access to marketplace!

android blockers

• https://wiki.mozilla.org/Mobile/Fx17#Web_Apps_Support

marketplace promos on Android

• current plan is to leave them enabled on nightly/aurora
• on october 8, we're going to make a decision whether or not to leave them enabled on beta
• android project team owns the decision

Android Story - Marketplace & Android WebRT alignment

• concern about alignment between Marketplace team and Android WebRT teams
• right now if you go to Marketplace on Android it isn't optimized for Android screen sizes
• discussions took place in the Marketplace meeting last week
• potch owns the goal of making sure we can optimize for Android
• there are bugs filed to get this done
• we can make it a priority to get done this week

• there's a misalignment of date: october 8 is deadline for decision about android webapp implementation, but marketplace doesn't prioritize android support until one of their november releases
• question of whether we can pull forward android marketplace priorities into october

Actions

• pmpcat to loop adora into conversation about blocklisting apps
• overholt to talk to bsmith about coordinating with Marketplace team
• overholt to talk to josh about possibility of getting more help from network team
• robhudson to contact sicking with outstanding questions about Marketplace integration
• pmpcat to contact morgamic about triaging Marketplace bugs regularly for basecamp blocking status while clouserw on PTO
• pmpcat to contact clouserw about triaging Marketplace bugs regularly for basecamp blocking status once clouserw back from PTO
• myk to talk to karenw about possibilities for future development of r2d2b2g
• jsmith to contact aaronmt about docs for testing android webapps
• krupa to look into roadblock on development version of marketplace