DevTools/2011-04-14

Meeting Details

• Thursday Apr. 14, 2010 - 8:00am Pacific, 11:00am Eastern, 15:00 UTC
• 650-903-0800 or 650-215-1282 x92 Conf# 9364
• 1-800-707-2533 (pin 369) Conf# 9364 (US)
• #devtools on irc.mozilla.org for backchannel

Notices

• Welcome to new folks
  • Cedric, Kyle and Mike
• Firebug update
  • 1.7.1 coming soon
  • wants to deal with the memory problem
  • Dojo script debugging isn't working because 2 wrappers are not equal
  • in 1.8, they want to get rid of with(FBL) (Firebug Library) and prefix the calls with "FBL."
  • can then clean up the 8000 line FBL file
• Web Console update
  • Enhancements in Firefox 5
    • console.debug
    • a couple of fixes
  • Planning for 6
    • want to land a bunch of our outstanding patches
    • things we wanted in 5
    • console service, new autocompletion, repositioning, more console object additions
• Workspaces update
  • Not in 5, should be in 6
  • security review today
  • a few more unit tests needed per review request
  • l10n review needed
• Highlighter/Inspector update
  • patch in progress
  • e10s part of that in a followup - will try to minimize contact points with content
• GCLI update
  • nearly working in Firefox, a bit more CSS required
  • expect to have it working in Fx tomorrow
• New projects kicking off
  • CSS Inspector
  • View source
  • Ace code folding
  • Debugger
  • CSS Doctor soon
• Landing Ace in
  • Workspaces seems like the first touchpoint for Ace

Roundtable

• Does rapid release change how features land? (smaller patches = quicker reviews)
  • small bits with tests could always land
  • small patches are good, but landing dead code is not always so good
• testday for Workspaces
  • might be a little funny since the tool is only useful for people writing code
• Honza would like to do some e10s experiments
  • wants to try messagemanager APIs
  • Felipe has a patch queue that can get it going
  • https://wiki.mozilla.org/Electrolysis/Debugging
  • take a look at mobile code (now in mozilla-central)
  • http://mxr.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/search?find=%2Fmobile%2F&string=messageManager
  • nsIFrameMessageManager
  • mfinkle is probably the person with the most experience with that stuff right now
  • bsmedberg is very knowledgeable on the platform side of it
• dcamp: do we want the devtools repo (http://hg.mozilla.org/projects/devtools) to be a landing queue for our patches?
  • seems like it's cedar just for us
  • can we get more value from the repo?
  • what if we land stuff that's had internal review but is not reviewed for landing in central?
  • which is more valuable: a landing queue or a playground?
  • perhaps we land stuff on devtools so that people can play with features that are almost ready and then do a timed merge to central
• Google Summer of Code starting
  • Mentoring starts next week