DevTools/2011-04/28

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Meeting Details

Due to problems with our usual conference bridge, this week we will be using conference number 364 (rather than the usual 9364).

  • Thursday Apr. 28, 2010 - 8:00am Pacific, 11:00am Eastern, 15:00 UTC
  • 650-903-0800 or 650-215-1282 x92 Conf# 364
  • 1-800-707-2533 (pin 369) Conf# 364 (US)
  • #devtools on irc.mozilla.org for backchannel

Notices

  • Welcome Panagiotis Astithas
    • past on github, irc, bugzilla
  • Firebug update
    • working on Firebug 1.7. 1.7.1b2 tomorrow, final version in 1-2 weeks
    • concentrating on 1.8
      • continuing module work (converting all files to RequireJS AMD modules)
      • this can help with Firefox startup time
      • want to get rid of XUL overlays. this will help make Firebug restartless.
      • remote debugging via Crossfire
    • Plan is to ship Firebug 1.8 concurrent with Firefox 5 (June 22nd)
  • Web Console update
  • Workspaces update
  • Highlighter update
    • Fixing up unit tests that were broken by changing
    • msucan helped with that. There's now about 3 left
    • there are a couple of panel timing sorts of issues
  • Command Line update
    • there is an hg repository that allows you to register commands, type commands in the web console, etc.
    • jwalker will keep this up to date with the devtools repo
    • needs a toggle to switch between JS and command mode
    • needs to be able to hide behind a pref, which should be straightforward
  • CSS Inspector
    • Removed the stylesheet selector and is going to remove specificity which will both clean things up a bit
  • View source
    • Talking with Henri Sivonen about the HTML5 parser-based reimplementation. That is largely the toolkit version of View Source
    • msucan has been working on integrating Ace with browser chrome. getting things packaged up in .jsm's.
    • starting up work on view source UI
    • the pilot.jsm from GCLI work was useful
  • CSS Editing
    • editor needs a stylesheet selector still. currently it's a menu popup.
    • experimented with a listbox so that you can have the list of stylesheets in a sidebar
    • Still having trouble with the gzipped cache data coming up encoded rather than in usable source form
    • Henri Sivonen recommends looking at the new view source code bug 482921
  • HTML tree
    • jviereck stepped up with code folding implementation for Ace, which we will want to make use of at some point
    • for now, going with more traditional tree view
    • going to try to implement structured editing in the HTML tree, but hopefully less annoying
    • want to make it so that you can edit the entire list of attributes with a single text box, rather than having to do each attribute independently
    • also need to add text node editing
  • Debugger
    • we have breakpoints now and embryonic support for stopping at breakpoints and resuming
    • thinking about reworking UI a bit
    • likes how Chrome serves up the debugger directly when you start the remote debugging server
    • by next week we should have stop/resume/step with current stack shown
    • currently looking at Chrome's remote debugger protocol as an alternative to jblandy's
    • jblandy's protocol is nicer, but no showstoppers in Chrome's protocol yet
    • protocol is here: http://code.google.com/chrome/devtools/docs/remote-debugging.html

Roundtable

  • Sandboxes
    • instanceof isn't working as expected in a sandbox
    • looks like a bug, but no one on this call has seen it
  • Alex says that they're excited about testing of Workspaces/Scratchpad
    • asked when the merge will be
      • ideally tomorrow, but still needs l10n review and the latest changes
  • Kyle is wondering if there's anyone else from Mozilla in the Web Performance Working Group
    • Taras Glek heads up the performance group, but this is low-level
    • Chris Blizzard drives product requirements for our platform (standards we need to support as high priority, etc)
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