DevTools/2011-06/02

Meeting Details

• Thursday Jun 2, 2010 - 8:00am Pacific, 11:00am Eastern, 15:00 UTC
• 650-903-0800 or 650-215-1282 x92 Conf# 9364
• 1-800-707-2533 (pin 369) Conf# 9364 (US)
• #devtools on irc.mozilla.org for backchannel

Notices

• Firebug update
  • Firebug 1.7.2 released yesterday (several fixes, compatible with Fx5)
  • Firebug 1.8 beta will be released tomorrow
  • Firebug 1.8 works with Firefox 6 (maxVersion is set to 7 currently)
  • Firebug 1.8 net panel displays the IP addresses and ports for remote end of request
• Style Editor
  • Incremental parser is a complex issue
    • Cedric has been reading research papers on parsers to figure out what's going wrong
    • Most of the papers are ancient
• Script Debugger
  • Stack frame display likely to be finished today
• Web Console update
  • console.time, console.timeEnd and console.clear are all in various stages of review/superreview
  • console.dir is progressing
  • Fix for Scratchpad links for console.logs from the Scratchpad
  • Workaround for document.body autocompletion problem
• Highlighter update
  • some review going on for the main Highlighter patch
  • iframes not highlighting properly
  • some new mockups with suggestions coming up
• Command Line update
  • dcamp and jwalker put together a video showing the command line controlling the debugger
  • bunch of bugfixes have gone in
  • needs a toggle switch (how much do we share between JS and Command Line)
• Style Doctor
  • no update this week
• Style Inspector
  • Going to try to land it without Highlighter integration
  • Just need to deal with some RTL issues
  • Going to add multiple style panels
• Code Editor
  • A patch to integrate Orion editor
  • Another patch to plug it into the Scratchpad
  • Orion team really responsive to our patches
• View Source
  • No updates
• HTML Tree Editing
  • Making the editor work against the DOM directly
    • Dropping the complicated regexes for attribute parsing to rely on the HTML parser (putting attributes on a dummy element and then reading the attributes off of that)
    • Communicating change events to DOM elements
  • Next step is to plug the code directly into the HTML panel in Firefox
  • In parallel, opinions accumulated on the UX
    • more feedback welcome
• Scratchpad
  • Orion editor video demo [1]

Roundtable

• QA
  • Need use cases review (the ones on the Feature Page)
  • New test cases for Scratchpad
  • Rob's video link is forthcoming
• Command Line toggle
  • started with a very simple integration... took JSTerm and made GCLITerm
  • Patch doesn't rot easily because it's a clean separation
  • The downside is that we end up with two sets of components (one for JS, one for GCLI)
  • Question: do we just have one completion element?
    • One problem is that the JSTerm allows input to be separated over multiple lines
    • Mihai thinks we should use the same elements, but only allow multiline in JSTerm
    • dcamp: Don't want to change people's workflow, especially on a 6 week basis
    • Solution then is that JS mode allows multiple lines, Command Line mode just allows a single line
  • It sounds like a more invasive patch is likely the better way to go
• Multiple Style Inspectors
  • For the moment, going to punt on allowing multiple inspectors
  • the current Web Console integration is not really the main entry point (that's the Highlighter)
  • the Web Console should close auxiliary windows (object inspectors and network inspectors) when you leave the tab, in the same way the old Inspector did