DevTools/2011-06/16

Meeting Details

• Thursday Jun 16, 2010 - 8:00am Pacific, 11:00am Eastern, 15:00 UTC
• 650-903-0800 or 650-215-1282 x92 Conf# 9364
• 1-800-707-2533 (pin 369) Conf# 9364 (US)
• #devtools on irc.mozilla.org for backchannel

Notices

• Welcome Nick Fitzgerald (fitzgen)
  • New intern on the team for the summer
• Tilt
  • Created texture coordinates for nodes in the DOM
  • New video is up
  • Errors linked to line numbers and source files
  • Spoke to a10y people and they suggested abstracting access to not be mouse-only
• Firebug update
  • Focused on 1.8 blockers right now
  • Blogged about new console.timeStamp feature
    • timing problem with this right now
    • PR_now can be off by 30ms
  • 1.8b3 tomorrow
  • 1.8 will likely be released shortly after Firefox 5. 1.7.2 is compatible with Firefox 5 though.
• Style Editor
  • Working on the browser branch, so now the editor can build as a browser feature
  • browser branch on github this will become a patch
  • wants to have some simple tools to merge to the browser branch
  • would like to continue allowing it to work as an add-on
    • there's a readme that describes running the tests from within the addon
• Script Debugger
  • protocol is starting to expose variables
  • discovered that the debugger is not building on Windows right now
  • starting to expose API for adding new actors to the protocol
• Web Console update
  • working on console.dir
  • console.group/groupEnd implementation (video)
  • r+ on ConsoleStorageAPI
  • close to r+ on the patch for showing console API output
  • big separate patch for error caching
• Highlighter update
  • Main Highlighter patch has r+ and is ready to land
  • mratcliffe is working on integration of the Style Inspector
• Command Line update
  • driving to get stuff landed
  • Nick Fitzgerald (fitzgen) is helping now
  • done with a10y
  • more UI tweaks
  • require patch got r+
    • pushed to try and got a bunch of memory leaks and failed to run on linux
• Style Inspector
  • now integrates with the highlighter
  • possible to open more than one from the web console
  • RTL is working well
  • still waiting for the main patch to be reviewed (dolske said this week)
  • panel manager for docking panels on the sides, top or bottom
  • new Style Inspector video is available here
• Code Editor
  • posted a new WIP patch with lots of cleanups
  • Scratchpad patch is pretty much done
  • main patch still needs some mochitests
  • solved keyboard shortcuts problem
  • try build is up for dbolter and marco to look at a10y
  • Dojo dependencies will hopefully be removed from Orion next week
• HTML Tree Editing
  • HTML Tree is a tree again
  • porting code into the firefox tree

Roundtable

• bug 664589 hide developer tools behind a pref
  • the argument is that the attackers make it look like the web console is part of the game and this is a way to get infinite lives or that kind of thing
  • dcamp: we should have a way to find out if such a thing actually reduces the risk of attack
    • we don't want to do this kind of thing without data
  • is one option to just make the web console positioned in a window?
  • put an "Enable Developer Tools" menu option with a dialog that appears one time before flipping the pref?