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Planning Meeting Details

  • Wednesdays - 11:00am PDT, 18:00 UTC
  • Mountain View Offices: Warp Core Conference Room
  • Toronto Offices: Fin du Monde Conference Room
  • #planning for backchannel
  • (the developer meeting takes place on Tuesdays)

Video/Teleconference Details - NEW

  • 650-903-0800 or 650-215-1282 x92 Conf# 95312 (US/INTL)
  • 1-800-707-2533 (pin 369) Conf# 95312 (US)
  • Vidyo Room: Warp Core
  • Vidyo Guest URL
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Actions from Last Week

Michelle to look at data for long tail of mobile flash problem. Can't quantify this based on the available data, reviews and feedback don't specify the web sites, they just ask for flash player/plugin:

Schedule & Progress on Upcoming Releases

Firefox Desktop

Release (3.6, 6)

  • Firefox 3.6.23 went to the 3.6 beta audience yesterday
    • Currently planning to ship at the same time as Firefox 7, but it is at risk

Beta (7)

Aurora (8)

  • Reminder: The source migration from (mozilla-central → mozilla-aurora and mozilla-aurora → mozilla-beta) is Tuesday, 2011-09-27 (1 week)

Nightly (9)

  • Reminder: The source migration from (mozilla-central → mozilla-aurora and mozilla-aurora → mozilla-beta) is Tuesday, 2011-09-27 (1 week)

Firefox Mobile





  • Platform support for Flash on pre-Honeycomb devices landed.
    • Mark Finkle working on the UI part to enable flash (Push-To-Play)
      • Possibly done in the next few hours.
    • Need to message that this isn't a *great* experience, but does get you out of a pinch when flash is needed.

Firefox Sync

Add-on Builder

Add-on SDK

Release (1.1 -> Firefox 7)

  • released last Tuesday, September 13, two weeks before Firefox 7
  • 1.0 -> 1.1 repack testing delayed, then stalled on IT issues

Stabilization (1.2 -> Firefox 8)

  • development branch merged to stabilization branch last Tuesday, September 13
  • first test build, 1.2b1, spun yesterday, Tuesday, September 20 (release announcement)
  • final release on schedule for Tuesday, October 25, two weeks before Firefox 8
  • might move up final release one week to Tuesday, October 18, three weeks before Firefox 8 (discussion)

Development (1.3 -> Firefox 9)

  • development begun last Tuesday, September 13
  • merge to stabilization branch on schedule for Tuesday, October 25
  • as with 1.2, might move up merge and final release one week to ship three weeks before Firefox 9

Feedback Summary


Firefox 6.0.2

  • Definitely an increase in hanging/not responding over the last couple weeks and possibly crashier.
  • EXC in ev handl: errors still very high.

Firefox 7.0

  • Only solid complaint around http in URL bar
  • Possibly a bug around attaching files on email ( Filing now.
  • And extensions.

Firefox 8.0

  • Nothing new, a few complaints about update frequency still

Firefox 9.0

  • Crash (no crash reporter) on bug 687991
  • A few complaints that bookmark import doesn't work from IE (but we're still broken on 6.0, so no idea why it spiked a little -- might be one user wanting attention)


  • Increased feedback on input for nightly

  • Major issue theme is that people don't like the tab view in landscape
  • 43 mobile questions on SUMO this week, 11 unanswered. So, if you are new to Mozilla, answering questions on SUMO is an excellent way to learn about your user's pain points and learn the answers to commonly asked questions about your product.

UX & User Research

Market Insights


Windows 8 at BUILD

  • Windows app store was not yet available, but will be the gateway to getting apps into the Windows Metro interface.
  • Windows Metro applications are written for a new environment, WinRT, and will be compatible across x86 and ARM, traditional ones will not.

Internet Explorer 10

  • Microsoft released Platform Preview 3 (PP3) of IE10 with the Windows 8 preview. PP3 of IE10 will be released on other platforms at a later date.
  • The IE10 Metro browser will not support plugins, the traditional desktop browser will.
  • IE10 Metro browser is a full screen, "immersive" UX with a swipe interface, navigation at the bottom of the screen, tabs at the top; this can be expected to be the same experience on Windows Phone. The interface appears to be complete.
  • IE10 has significant platform updates including 3D visual effects, page layout and local storage. Full list on

Google Chrome Chrome 14 hits stable channel and includes two significant updates:

  • Web Audio API allows for greater audio effects based on web content
  • Native Client (NaCl) -supports only Chrome Web Apps at the moment.

Swiffy Beta With the demise of Google Labs, Google released Swiffy as a beta service. Swiffy is a tool to convert Flash videos to HTML, SVG and CSS. Firefox is not fully supported by the tool, citing bug 119490.

Safari & DigiNotar Apple reportedly issed a fix to Safari for DigiNotar certificates on September 9th.


Summary below, full update here and in your inbox.

  • Opera acquired Handster, a mobile app store solution
  • Google is preparing for the Ice Cream Sandwich release
  • Samsung and HTC are also concentrating on their own mobile platforms
  • Google Wallet, using NFC technology, launched
  • The first Windows Phone 7.5 updates to be rolled-out to consumers today

Marketing, Press & Public Reaction

Questions, Comments, FYI

  • Christian asked if our current mobile flash feeling was that we would leave it on
    • Current plan is to land it, have a UX review before Tuesday, and ship with it
  • Christian asked if it would be easy to see mobile Flash crashes
    • It should as the crashes will be in chrome with content in the stack
  • Christian asked if Flash on mobile will lead to a worse experience due to sites offering flash content rather than HTML5 content
    • We don't expose that we support Flash on page load, should be a non-issue
  • Christian asked what the experimental add-on sync add-on (whew) EOL plan is
    • It should disable and uninstall itself when support hits Firefox
  • Christian talked to Thunderbird folks at the all-hands and we agreed it would be good to have them at this meeting
  • Should we have a Web Apps update in this meeting? (JP)

Actions this week

  • Sheila to come back on bug 687991 -- crashes on without stack
  • Johnath to ping Todd about apps participation in this meeting
    • Sent mail
  • Johnath to ping JB about Thunderbird participation in this meeting
    • Sent mail