Jetpack/Features/2011-11-18

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  • Time: Friday, 2011 November 18, 9:05 - 9:50am PT (17:05 - 17:50 UTC)
  • Location:
    • Audio/Video: Jetpack Vidyo room
    • Audio Only:
      • US: +1-800-707-2533, password 369, conference number 99449
      • US/Intl: +1-650-903-0800 or +1-650-215-1282, extension 92, conference number 99449

Agenda

  • review actions from previous meeting
    • dietrich to get results from BrowserID performance test runs and post them to BrowserID wiki page
    • dietrich to talk to build team about performance test run issues
    • someone (dascher?) to figure out who on identity team will be driver for l10n
    • myk to report back on the specifics of Jetpack's l10n plan
    • myk to identify and propose short-term plan to localize these features
    • dietrich to identify review concerns based on test pilot post mortem
    • dietrich to send a message to working group about mechanics of plan
    • myk to figure out where besides these meetings working group discussions should be taking place
    • shanec and dascher to figure out who from the various feature teams should participate in these meetings
  • schedules and deadlines
  • Firefox China Edition experience
  • addon hotfixes

Attendees

  • dietrich
  • davida
  • myk
  • mixedpuppy

Minutes

review actions from previous meeting

  • dietrich to get results from BrowserID performance test runs and post them to BrowserID wiki page
    • dietrich got results for Hello World addon, and there were a couple of minor regressions, but nothing major
    • there's a shutdown regression, but it isn't clear that our shutdown performance tests are measuring the right things
    • we need to configure the branch to do multiple test runs of performance tests
  • dietrich to talk to build team about performance test run issues
    • dietrich contacted them several times but hasn't received a response
  • -> myk to talk to joduinn about who can tackle performance test automation issues
  • davida to figure out who on identity team will be driver for l10n
    • davida sent email to ben and thunder
    • it should probably be lloyd, but no definitive response
  • mixedpuppy and davida to figure out who from the various feature teams should participate in these meetings
    • Identity: contacted folks, still working on figuring it out
    • Sharing: dietrich, mixedpuppy, and davida met and agreed to ask PMs to prioritize it
    • Apps: still working on figuring it out
  • -> davida to talk to Bill Walker about point person for Apps
  • myk to identify and propose short-term plan to localize these features
    • myk proposed using .properties files and string bundles for strings in code
    • myk proposed four options for localizing HTML pages, still gathering feedback and investigating options
  • dietrich to identify review concerns based on Test Pilot post mortem
    • dietrich identified both review concerns and bundling issues
    • bundling issues
      • can feature addons be uninstalled
      • can feature addons be updated from AMO
      • would core code ever depend on addons
    • bundling decisions might vary on a per-addon basis
    • review concerns
      • code that ships with Firefox, including Jetpack platform code and addon feature code, has to be reviewed
      • we have to grow the review corps to include the folks doing feature development to maintain momentum
      • how to transition from review policies appropriate at an experimental stage to those for the production stage of a project
    • Firefox team adopting policy that all members are reviewers
  • dietrich to send a message to working group about mechanics of plan
    • dietrich sent a message to dev.planning
    • got feedback from Songbird, SeaMonkey folks who had/have been doing this for a while
    • no one has addressed testing nor l10n stuff in a particularly modelable way

schedules and deadlines

  • clee and asa putting together 2012 roadmap with dates
  • they may not be final but should be an indication of when product team would like to see these things ship in firefox
  • Sharing: six months ago
  • Identity: person to ask is thunder
  • Apps: no idea who the right person is to ask
  • -> dietrich to ask about schedule determiner for Apps at Apps brownbag today
  • there is contention between teams about what Apps functionality should land, when it should land, and where it should land
  • B2G team intends to ship Apps APIs in Firefox 10
  • status and priority of Apps features on desktop browser is unclear

Firefox China Edition experience

  • China Edition approach to shipping addons is very different from what we want to do
  • net installer is Windows-only
  • addons downloaded at install time
  • no performance testing
  • thus interesting but not necessarily relevant

addon hotfixes

Actions

  • -> myk to talk to joduinn about who can tackle performance test automation issues
  • -> davida to talk to Bill Walker about point person for Apps
  • -> dietrich to ask about schedule determiner for Apps at Apps brownbag today
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