L10n/HomePage/Status/2009-11-18

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Meeting Details

  • 9:00 AM Mountain View Time (UTC -7)
  • 650-903-0800 x92 Conf# 206 (US/INTL)
  • irc.mozilla.org #l10n-drivers for back channel
  • (notetaker: sethb)

Attendees

pascal, axel, wil, timr, stas & sethb

Meeting Notes

Firefox / Fennec updates

Firefox

  • 67 builds are green
    • 9 missing strings for af, bg, ka
    • 151 strings for es-MX, ku, mn
    • lots missing for oc and sr

Need to figure out with Beltzner on what to do with some of the locales...

Fennec

  • https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=523296
    • mfinkle is changing a string deep in toolkit
    • Fixable, but not if we are string frozen on Firefox since this is also being used
    • Can't change the key for this bug
    • Axel suggests to effectively create a new entity used by the old entity
    • File will always be messy
  • https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=528655
    • Stas has to review each and every description entry in existing plugins
      • Have never used in Firefox
      • Have changed the meaning
      • Adding one more string that we have a very difficult time tracking
    • Compare locales does not check this string
    • Change in UI breaks the way we do search engines
      • Can no longer put the search in list.txt file because it refinances the specific search XML files that works (Axel)
      • Effectively we need to fork every locale, plus commonly reused plugins like google
      • We can pull en-US for search plugins
    • Every localizer needs to clone the en-US plugin to reuse it in their localization

Possible solutions --

  • Scenario 1: Stas is not totally overwhelmed
    • Description not being used anywhere else on the Web
    • Maintaining it can also be tough
  • Scenario 2: Back out change and keep it as is, but this can be hard because Fennec has been exposing this string
    • Changed the description and we realized used it only because the string got changed it…
  • Scenario 3: No productization in this release
  • Scenario 4: Ship with existing <Description> and don't make the "Integrated" UI change
    • Is the existing "Integrated" so critical that we need to translate it?
    • Is it super critical to have it in en-US?
  • Scenario 5: Removing any English text from description entirely
    • Not good UI

Meta-feedback

  • Adding 20+ strings in the last 48 hours
  • Changing search engines is big problem

Web L10n

  • FF 3.6 WN and FR localization has been started
  • Updated webpages for Weave Sync branding
  • Collecting SMS updates for Fennec
  • Google Snippets
  • TB3 ongoing work
  • Patch for FF 3.6 beta 3 that fixes bugs that are not listed on Product Details for FF 3.6 beta 3
    • bug 528572

AMO

  • Started AMO 5.4 and freeze on November 26
  • Python .po files are different than PHP .po files. clouserw working on script

Productization

  • RSS policy: modified script
    • Helped verify new suggestions so there are no hidden redirects
  • de-beta is coming along nicely including this list.

Tools

  • Sign-off app
    • Confused on what to move to Amsterdam
  • Gandalf and Axel have had a chat on what to work next
    • LDAP auth review might be needed by clouserw
  • Haven't made a whole lot of progress of https request for the load balancer
  • Verbatim (with support for Verbatim, AMO, and SUMO) expected to go live today

Testing

  • 15 locales are scheduled to get testing by Multilingual QA. Finalizing the list and seeking approval from shaver
  • Working on test automation with consultants
    • boxObject which exposes the geometric size, if boxObject of child goes over the size of the parent, then we get an error
  • Fennec localization testing from Aakash

Roundtable

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