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The Learning Area weekly meeting takes place in the #mdn channel on irc.mozilla.org at 10 AM PDT (17:00 UTC, 19:00 CEST). See the meeting time in your time zone. It's open to anyone that would like to participate, so please feel free to join in!

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• (Jeremie) DONE: Send the link to the HTML cheatsheet stub to chadsansing when it's ready
  • https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/Learn/HTML/Cheatsheet

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Agenda

Content

• (Jeremie) Learning CSS: Progress and Q&A
  • Status: https://trello.com/c/NAuDmn9u

Planning

• Trello board review
  • https://trello.com/b/LDggrYSV

Other topics

• (dvincent) Twitter review and storytelling
• (Jeremie) I'll be off next week, we need someone to run the meeting

Meeting minutes

• (19:00) Jeremie: This is the fifty-nineth weekly meeting about the Learning Area :)
• (19:00) Jeremie: Agenda is there: https://wiki.mozilla.org/MDN/Projects/Content/Learning_Area/Weekly_meetings/2015-10-19
• (19:00) Jeremie: Feel free to add anything you want to discuss.
• (19:00) Jeremie: And as usual: who's attending? :D
• (19:00) andrew: o/
• (19:01) dvincent: o/
• (19:01) chadsansing: o/
• (19:02) Jeremie: Hi :) Glad to see you all :)
• (19:02) andrew: Hi Jeremie :)
• (19:02) chadsansing: Hello :)
• (19:03) Jeremie: Ok, let's get started

follow up on action item.

• (19:04) Jeremie: First and only item is on me, it's about the HTML cheatsheet
• (19:04) dvincent: and me!
• (19:04) Jeremie: After some discussion with dvincent I make a stub
• (19:04) dvincent: sorry, I did not do it
• (19:04) dvincent: yay
• (19:05) dvincent: thank you!
• (19:05) Jeremie: dvincent: No worries, you swamped into the code source event ;)
• (19:05) Jeremie: So here it is: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/Learn/HTML/Cheatsheet
• (19:05) dvincent: awesome, thank you!
• (19:05) chadsansing: Cool -
• (19:06) Jeremie: chadsansing: I realized that I do not have your e-mail so I'm glad you're here :)
• (19:06) chadsansing: Heh. Chad at mofo.
• (19:07) Jeremie: So it's just a stub so feel free to add stuff to it, I only provide examples but it's very open, event the look and feel or the organization if you think better things can be done, just do it :)
• (19:07) Jeremie: chadsansing: Ah, I should have known :P
• (19:07) sheppy: :)
• (19:08) Jeremie: dvincent: Feel free to spread the word :)
• (19:08) dvincent: yes indeed!!
• (19:09) Jeremie: The only "requirement" we should put on that cheatsheet is: "Keep it simple" ;)
• (19:09) Jeremie: Even if big :)
• (19:09) dvincent: absolutely. It's a "cheat sheet." Oh, should I make links out to the other pages with more information?
• (19:10) Jeremie: dvincent: I think that this one is good enough so far
• (19:10) dvincent: if available?
• (19:10) dvincent: ok
• (19:10) Jeremie: Any question or suggestion before moving forward?
• (19:11) andrew: I'm glad to see the note about how HTML is only for semantics, but you don't think "formatting" is too visual a term?
• (19:11) Jeremie: andrew: Man, who do you think I'm ? ;) However, feel free to rephrase my poor English :P
• (19:12) andrew: Yes, I'm a little uncomfortable, but I can't think of a better word offhand =)
• (19:13) Jeremie: FWIT, many people better react to visual words, especially beginner that don't really know of other form of web accessibility at the beginning. However I haven't strong opinion in that area :)
• (19:14) Jeremie: For me aslong as it's understandable and not to much nit picking that will work.
• (19:15) andrew: Theoretically, I prefer "block-level element" and "inline element", but I can't speak for other people.
• (19:15) dvincent: "formatting" was clear to me even though it does have a visual association.
• (19:16) dvincent: I think as long as it's clearly understandable, the semantics of visual vs. structural is less important.
• (19:16) dvincent: just my $0.08
• (19:16) Jeremie: andrew: That is really technical and among things I could consider nit picking ;) But as I said the organisation of the page is far from set in stone, and can be adjust as needed :)
• (19:17) andrew: Well, it's just a cheatsheet =)
• (19:17) Jeremie: indeed :)
• (19:17) chadsansing: I think "element" could work if we add a short paragraph above the Inline & Block sections explaining how they differ. Gives us an excuse to define "element," as well.
• (19:17) Jeremie: chadsansing: Go for it :) It's a stub, it awaits for content and structure :)
• (19:18) chadsansing: Will give it a go shortly.
• (19:18) Jeremie: \o/

Progress about Learning CSS

• (19:19) Jeremie: I would sumarized as: So far So good
• (19:19) Jeremie: The theory goes well
• (19:19) Jeremie: Big thanks to heather who did the editorial reviews :)
• (19:20) Jeremie: WIP status is available on Trello as usual: https://trello.com/c/NAuDmn9u
• (19:21) Jeremie: I expect to tackle to more article. I'm currently doing the one about CSS Syntax
• (19:21) Jeremie: It's basically about refreshing some existing content
• (19:21) Jeremie: Feel free to ping me if you want to get involved ;)
• (19:21) Jeremie: Any question about this?

Trello board review

• (19:23) Jeremie: https://trello.com/b/LDggrYSV
• (19:23) Jeremie: What's up with your cards?
• (19:23) Jeremie: Any status to report or help to ask?
• (19:25) andrew: I don't have much time, but over the next couple weeks I'm going to finish my HTML table article and jump into CSS.
• (19:25) Jeremie: andrew: \o/
• (19:26) andrew: Snails go faster than rocks :)
• (19:26) Jeremie: That's just great :) Thanks to andrew we have a very solid HTML content :D
• (19:26) dvincent: "Snails go faster than rocks." - Andrew. I'm going to use that quote. :)
• (19:26) andrew: Thank you, Jeremie, I'm glad when I can help!
• (19:27) Jeremie: andrew: Yes, and rushing doesn't bring anything good
• (19:27) andrew: dvincent: :)
• (19:28) Jeremie: dvincent: BTW, andrew finished the https://trello.com/c/5h7cBli3/52-article-how-to-add-a-hit-map-on-top-of-an-image articles, asking for reviews would be great :)
• (19:28) dvincent: you got it!
• (19:30) Jeremie: klez: Any news or plan about Python?
• (19:30) klez: nope :(
• (19:31) Jeremie: klez: Ok, no problem :)
• (19:31) klez: I just shuffled a little of stuff around in the glossary, but didn't have time to do much more
• (19:31) Jeremie: Okay

Twitter review and storytelling

• (19:32) dvincent: I have nothing to report. :(
• (19:33) dvincent: sorry, been heads-down on View Source
• (19:33) Jeremie: dvincent: No problem :) Just checking :)
• (19:34) Jeremie: Beyond what have been said in the meeting is there any things that worth twitting any of you wish to highlight?
• (19:35) Jeremie: Ok, I guess it's a no :)

Next week meeting

• (19:36) Jeremie: I won't be able to run next week meeting
• (19:37) Jeremie: I'll be swamp into on of my client project so I need some one to take charge of running the show
• (19:37) Jeremie: Don't be shy as all the stuff that needs to be done are documented here: https://wiki.mozilla.org/MDN/Projects/Content/Learning_Area/Weekly_meetings#How_to_run_a_meeting
• (19:38) andrew: All right, I can do that. Even if there's not be terribly much to discuss ;)
• (19:38) dvincent: Is this one of those situations where we get to nominate someone who isn't here? :)
• (19:38) dvincent: yay andrew!
• (19:38) Jeremie: andrew: \o/
• (19:38) andrew: dvincent: Maybe your idea's even better ;)
• (19:39) Jeremie: But yes, as far as project goes smooth, the meeting should be short :)
• (19:40) andrew: Good, we'll be friendly but business-like. Will we see you there, Jeremie?
• (19:40) Jeremie: I don't think so, I should be almost invisible an unreachable the whole week :-/
• (19:41) andrew: Hope your project prospers!
• (19:41) Jeremie: andrew: They are ;)
• (19:41) Jeremie: Ok, with andrew taking charge of the meeting next week we are running out of topics? Any last one or question before we end the meeting?